I didn't "make a statement" I asked a question. I said as an outsider and listening to podcast, that is the feeling I got, and I said if the feeling is wrong people can feel free to correct or offer insight. And for some reason people took offense to it and got all uppity. Making a statement would be "Anyone here who thinks Amber Heard isn't a victim has no clue what they're talking about." Which is not even remotely close to what I said. FFS.
That's precisely why I framed it that way because I didn't watch the trial. I want to understand the perspective of others.
So again, this is a question, not a statement. And not a rhetorical question, but a legitimate one. Do people feel they can discern whether or not someone is an abuser purely based off on a trial, testimony, and evidence? Or is there more to it than that?
You didn't ask a question you said it basically seems like it was mutual abuse based on what little you have heard. I don't see one question mark in your first paragraph of your post. Which is why I respectfully asked you to not post. You decided to reply with complete disrespect.
So to answer your question, the following is a short summary of what the trial has uncovered:
1) evidence of her manipulating photos to increase redness of her cheek due to alleged abuse
2) using the same photo but claiming they are from different times of day - totally ridiculous. None of her photos can be validated as they are not raw files, from the original device but backups, and most of them have gone through an editor.
3) testimony from an officer she attacked her first spouse at an airport. she was actually arrested and had to appear in court but they were not allowed to get that in as it was deemed too prejudicial against her.
4) slapped her best friend, who is no longer her friend
5) used the same photo for two different incidents.
6) She admits to hitting him in multiple audio recordings.
7) she admitted to instigating fights and that she would get violent if he tried to leave to their couples therapist
8) caught lying about being in cahoots with TMZ.
9) staging a hoax in order to extort JD for spousal support, when she didn't get what she wanted, she went and got a temp restraining order against him when he wasn't even in California and wouldn't be for months and called TMZ to capture the moment she comes out of the courthouse.
10) 3rd party witness testimonies that completely destroy many of her claims.
11) No one, except her sister Whitney, has seen JD be violent with AH or any other person in his 58 years of life. The incident where Whitney claims JD was violent she cannot even provide a story that aligns with her sister's story of the same event. Whitney's friend Jennifer Howell, that she had to move into after this event, has a completely different story.
12) testimony from 3 police officers that went to their apartment on a night she claims violently attacked her and ripped hair out of her scalp and destroyed their apartment. None of the officers that came saw any injuries to her face or damage to property.
13) In none of the recordings, most of which she recorded in secret, does JD assault her or admit to assaulting her. As stated, it is she that admits assaults and sounds like an insane abuser, certainly not a victim
14) Taking a dump in their bed. Sounds like a victim deathly afraid of their abuser, right?
15) Testifying that she was scared of her life. Then shortly after "I am not a victim, I have never looked at myself as a victim" - she wrote an op-ed where she claims she was a victim and that's why they are there in the first place.
16) Not long after testifying she was afraid for her life. She was asked about taking pictures of JD sleeping in unflattering positions and if she wasn't afraid of taking pictures of her monster abuser and mocking him in text messages to her friends. She replied coldly "no, why would I be scared?"
17) Her demeanor in court. Staring down JD, smirking laughing when he was testifying about incidents. Visibly laughing the other day when he talked about the time she severed his finger. She doesn't ever come across as a victim of anything, except her own lies, narcissism and personality disorders.
18) Claimed she had donated all 7 million of her settlement to charity, She perjured herself both in this trial and the UK trial regarding this. Went on talk shows and talked in articels how she had donated all the money she received and that "she wanted nothing". She has only donated a fraction, and that money came from Elon Musk. She has kept pretty much all of her settlement money. Her excuse was that JD sued her, but he didn't sue her until over a year after her last settlement payment was made and she had received millions up until then.
19) Had Elon Musk donate 250k to one of JD's witnesses' charity as hush money.
The worst thing AH's team has are text messages from JD to either family or friends where he is venting and writing some dark stuff but understandable if your life is being ruined.
There is more, but I cannot be bothered to type anymore.