Snowybreak
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Hard time believing it's not gonna be this Batgirl
Or at least inspired by this Batgirl.
I've never read Batgirl, but holy shit do I love this design. Makes me kinda want to read it. Anybody have some recommendations?
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Joss Whedon is nearing a deal to write, direct, and produce a Batgirl pic for WB
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I've never read Batgirl, but holy shit do I love this design. Makes me kinda want to read it. Anybody have some recommendations?
They should do rich guy universe with Batman, Green Arrow and Luthor teaming up for a investment. I heard Aaron Sorkin wanted to write a DC movie.
aussiedude08
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Hard time believing it's not gonna be this Batgirl
Or at least inspired by this Batgirl.
Im a big fan of the Babs Tarr design. It is what got me reading Batgirl again.
and have the Batgirl of Burnside statue.
PeskyToaster
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They meddled so much that they made a Zack Snyder movie have Zack Snydery problems.
aussiedude08
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Start from here:
It continues for acouple more volumes, and then Rebirth
and the Batman Endgame one shot tie in.
Entire book told with emoji.
Im not a fan of using emojis in texts but thought this issue was just really cool and fits in great with what Fletcher and Stewart had been doing.
and if you enjoy the Batgirl of Burnside books check out the Black Canary books, they have a few team ups over the series.
This is very exciting to me but I was kind of hoping Whedon would return to some of his smaller works before tackling a large movie again; I was almost certain he wouldn't return to Comic Book movies anytime soon either.
His smaller work from Dr. Horrible to Dollhouse are TV or online projects and I would still like to see him deal with some of the metacinematic undertones and nuances he has attempted before. He is a masterful director and writer, but after playing in the Marvel Cinematic universe for quite a few years and then tackling politics in the most recent election, I always imagined him staying away from these huge multi-hundred million big studio blockbusters, atleast for a little while.
With Whedon's comedic timing and love of all things comic booky, I'm sure he'll do Batgirl justice but is it the justice we need him to be doing right now?
(I've seen a bunch of people tweeting and posting about how a female director and writer should work on this... that's the wrong kind of feminism people! Joss also has an amazingly talented writing team and staff he's worked with on many other projects who a large majority of are female. Also WB and DC getting a name like Joss' is a big get for them and would put people in seats at the cinema much more than an unknown and in this dark, glum DC movie season... don't we just need a little bit of Joss injected into that movie sphere to show others how DC movies should be done?)
His smaller work from Dr. Horrible to Dollhouse are TV or online projects and I would still like to see him deal with some of the metacinematic undertones and nuances he has attempted before. He is a masterful director and writer, but after playing in the Marvel Cinematic universe for quite a few years and then tackling politics in the most recent election, I always imagined him staying away from these huge multi-hundred million big studio blockbusters, atleast for a little while.
With Whedon's comedic timing and love of all things comic booky, I'm sure he'll do Batgirl justice but is it the justice we need him to be doing right now?
(I've seen a bunch of people tweeting and posting about how a female director and writer should work on this... that's the wrong kind of feminism people! Joss also has an amazingly talented writing team and staff he's worked with on many other projects who a large majority of are female. Also WB and DC getting a name like Joss' is a big get for them and would put people in seats at the cinema much more than an unknown and in this dark, glum DC movie season... don't we just need a little bit of Joss injected into that movie sphere to show others how DC movies should be done?)
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Well, at least it's Batgirl and not Justice League. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up having a sub $100M budget. Even though WB does tend to overspend.
Still, I'd rather he had gone back to TV too. Firefly is one of my all time favorite shows but I've always found him to be a mediocre film director. But it's definitely a good get for DC from a business standpoint, there's no arguing that.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah, he bowed out of Marvel, made the Shakespeare movie, and then just... Waited for a different superhero. That's what his post Ultron timeline basically looks like, right?
Oh, and the political ads, right?
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
It's kinda weird when you think about it. After Avengers 1 & 2 he could have gotten any of his dream projects greenlit at pretty much any studio... Maybe he burned some bridges at Disney but even then, after 2 billion dollar movies, I would imagine he pretty much gets a free pass everywhere else.
But hey, for all I know, maybe Batgirl IS his dream project.
Hyrule Warrior
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I can't help but feel going from MCU to DC's train wreck of a CU is such a downgrade for someone as talented as Joss Whedon.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Maybe he really did just need a break.
Or maybe Warners threw a LOT of money at him.
Or maybe Warners threw a LOT of money at him.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Cassandra Cain series is good. I enjoyed it better than Batman stuff at the time.
You're a good person.
Lol, yeah, there's that too. Knowing WB and Marvel (at least under Perlmutter), I wouldn't be surprised if Whedon ends up getting a bigger paycheck upfront for Batgirl than he did for Avengers.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah, I agree. I think that's a good guess.
Inceptional
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These days, unless you're Nolan or Cameron you don't get to make dream projects, only movies studios are willng to make. And those are mostly comic book movies. Joss is a comic book dude though so I'm sure this IS a dream project for him.
Not under that Emmerich they wouldn't.
crimsonheadGCN
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The Shakespeare movie (Much Ado About Nothing) was filmed and released before the release of the first Avengers iirc. He has only did the political ads since Ultron was released.
that run starts here : https://m.comixology.com/Batgirl-2011-2016-Vol-1-The-Batgirl-of-Burnside/digital-comic/211150
and its on sale right now!
Razgriz-Specter
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If you like them completely changing Barbara Gordon's character and regressing years of characterization.
If not it absolutely sucks, could have been fine if it was Barbara's origin or Stephanie Brown though.
So good, just started to reread it in its entirety recently.Cassandra Cain series is good. I enjoyed it better than Batman stuff at the time.
BronsonLee
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I mean he probably could afford to take a break considering he has fuck you money now
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Thanks for the correction!
For what it's worth, Gail Simone just weighed in on twitter about it
She seems happy, although there's been no real contact between her, Whedon, or anyone at WB.
JimiNutz
Banned
True they've handled some of the villains poorly thus far but they still have plenty others that can be put to good use.
Maybe Hot Topic Joker could be ok in a better film as well. The tattoos are ridiculous though so best to keep those as covered up as much as possible.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
He should just wipe em off in the next movie.
"Oh, these. Ha. I thought it'd be funny."
(puts on straw hat & Hawaiian shirt)
That's better!
BKatastrophe
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PhoncipleBone
Banned
Especially since he now has two $1b+ grossing films under his belt, where when Marvel hired him, he had some TV directing credits and one film that grossed under $40m.
Prototype Viktor
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The real question...Who will be kill off?
PhoncipleBone
Banned
David Goyer and Zack Snyder.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
I want this Batgirl.
anime killer moth :O
This could be something cool.
It will likely take place mostly at night so yes probably.
It will likely take place mostly at night so yes probably.
kunonabi
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I want this Batgirl.
I need more of this.
Count Dookkake
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I want Verheoven to make a Bizarro movie.
Who is Saitama
I want this Batgirl.
Gotchaman?
AoU was an improvement over Avengers visually.
I think DC will give him more wiggle room creatively. IIRC correctly, wasn't Whedon critical of the MCU creative process siding with Edgar Wright and whatnot?
I'm more concerned with his writing.
Whedon praised the MCU process during Avengers but had problems with it during Ultron (as did a number of directors - it seems to be mainly because Feige wanted phase 2 to be different from phase 1 but some of the bean-counters panicked that people wouldn't go see them. Hence Jenkins walking, problems with Wright, etc). Hence why Marvel had a big reshuffle after Ultron to essentially kick out the meddling producers and put Feige in charge of everything.
Aside from exaggerating how "bad" Avengers looks, it seems like you purposefully ignored Age of Ultron which looked absolutely fine and had some legitimately great shots.
Inferno313
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Eh, I don't think he's wrong about Avengers necessarily. But Age of Ultron IS a nice looking film, and a massive improvement in that regard.
I feel like Avengers is middle of the road but not BAD-looking. It just doesn't try to do anything too interesting.
Joss knew this though. Lots of great stuff in AoU. That final shot with Ultron and Vision is one of the best in the MCU.
Back on topic, I'm really excited to see Joss' take on Batgirl but I just have zero faith in DC's ability to handle this universe.
Let's say Wonder Woman and Justice League are both critically panned. At the box office, Wonder Woman bombs and Justice League underperforms.
Do they even move forward with movies like Batgirl and Shazam at that point?
Let's say Wonder Woman and Justice League are both critically panned. At the box office, Wonder Woman bombs and Justice League underperforms.
Do they even move forward with movies like Batgirl and Shazam at that point?
IMO AoU was middle of the road while Avengers was much worse. It's hard for a movie to actually look BAD to me. So a movie that doesn't do anything interesting is bottom tier, while a decent movie with cool parts is middle.
Batgirl yes. Shazam is being handled by New Line
Probably both. He said after Ultron that he wanted to do some original world building again, maybe WB is also greenlighting a passion project in return.
Won't Aquaman already be filming by that point? Sounds like they're committed, atleast to some degree after Justice League.
Shazam ain't making any progress, Batman is apparently moving again, no word on Flash beyond it getting a rewrite. Gotham City Sirens frankly sounds like it's made more progress than half the movies in this lineup.
It's almost like Whedon's claim to fame was writing about a teenage girl everyone doubted who rose to being a genuine hero and people are happy to see that again, in contrast to Whedon trying to inject the feel of writing for a teenage female superhero while writing for male characters.
broncobuster
Banned
Aquaman crew are in Australia now to film the movie. That they aren't moving forward on very profitable franchise is a weird fan fiction; and not the good kind you read in Arrow threads.
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