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[sugarhigh4242]

Well for once no request has been made from the US to hand him over, not even from the UK?

He should have let the investigation has it due cause.

The US has a *sealed* indictment against Assange. They're not publicly saying Sweden is going to hand him over. For 5 years, there has been a debate over whether Assange's claims of US extradition were credible. The UN report settled that debate.

And again, the Swedish prosecutors have interrogated Assange in the embassy, after 6 years. So who really prevented the investigation?

 

[Tarkus]

Twitch chat will make sure everyone remembers.

Twitch chat is nothing but copy pasta and emotes

 

[TestOfTide]

So then he should be extradited. Or are we just going to ignore the rulings of multiple British courts now?

Don't bother, this isn't the first time that user has made ridiculous arguments.

He took joy in seeing Kurt Eichenwald get targeted with epilepsy-triggering images:

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=226709309

 

[ClosingADoor]

The US has a *sealed* indictment against Assange. They're not publicly saying Sweden is going to hand him over. For 5 years, there has been a debate over whether Assange's claims of US extradition were credible. The UN report settled that debate.

And again, the Swedish prosecutors have interrogated Assange in the embassy, after 6 years. So who really prevented the investigation?

I'm going to say the guy who refused to go to Sweden and wanted the police there to play by his rules instead of the regular ones.

Yeah, we know what happened. Assange defied the ruling, sought and received asylum from Ecuador. British police circle the embassy preventing him from leaving, and here we are.

So he can sit there until the end of time or finally accept the rulings of the court. Fine by me.

 

[sugarhigh4242]

So then he should be extradited. Or are we just going to ignore the rulings of multiple British courts now?

Yeah, we know what happened. Assange defied the ruling, sought and received asylum from Ecuador. British police circled the embassy preventing him from leaving, and here we are.

 

[TyrantII]

Assange is a petty coward with some strange conspiracy views. This QA pretty much reinforces that.

 

[sugarhigh4242]

Don't bother, this isn't the first time that user has made ridiculous arguments.

He took joy in seeing Kurt Eichenwald get targeted with epilepsy-triggering images:

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=226709309

Eichenwald has a long history of bizarre behavior, and extremely questionable ethics:

http://www.npr.org/sections/visibleman/2007/08/sex_checks_and_the_new_york_ti_1.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...3/eichenwalds_weird_checkbook_journalism.html

 

[Beartruck]

Assange is a moron. One day he'll get what's coming to him.

Hes been trapped in a hotel room for years and is apparently slowing going insane. He is getting whats coming to him.

 

[TestOfTide]

Eichenwald has a long history of bizarre behavior, and extremely questionable ethics:

http://www.npr.org/sections/visibleman/2007/08/sex_checks_and_the_new_york_ti_1.html

Dude you literally got banned the last time you tried to justify taking joy in seeing him attacked.

Do you really want to go this route?

 

[Veritigo_X]

Eichenwald has a long history of bizarre behavior, and extremely questionable ethics:

http://www.npr.org/sections/visibleman/2007/08/sex_checks_and_the_new_york_ti_1.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...3/eichenwalds_weird_checkbook_journalism.html

You're currently in a thread defending Julian Assange.

 

[sugarhigh4242]

You're currently in a thread defending Julian Assange.

The only one with sources too, I've noticed.

 

[BrutishMrFish]

Eichenwald has a long history of bizarre behavior, and extremely questionable ethics:

Even if that's true, that justifies your apparent enjoyment of him being forced to have a seizure because...?

 

[HStallion]

Eichenwald has a long history of bizarre behavior, and extremely questionable ethics:

http://www.npr.org/sections/visibleman/2007/08/sex_checks_and_the_new_york_ti_1.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...3/eichenwalds_weird_checkbook_journalism.html

So you can give people seizures because of this?

 

[radios shipping overview]

edit: not much of an answer. his answer amounted to how snowdens release of information was done through traditional media and was "privatised"

Sounds like his criticism for the Panama Papers. Ridiculous propaganda (that is, Assange's).

 

[Wallach]

Dude you literally got banned the last time you tried to justify taking joy in seeing him attacked.

Do you really want to go this route?

dude was absent from this website for almost a decade until he came back very recently so he could make some "I'm not a Trump supporter, HOWEVER" type dogshit posts

it's a real mystery to be sure

 

[kmag]

The US has a *sealed* indictment against Assange. They're not publicly saying Sweden is going to hand him over. For 5 years, there has been a debate over whether Assange's claims of US extradition were credible. The UN report settled that debate.

And again, the Swedish prosecutors have interrogated Assange in the embassy, after 6 years. So who really prevented the investigation?

Never really understood the rationale behind oh Sweden would extradite Assange to the US. In Sweden an individual has far greater protection on extradition than the UK does. The UK is about the last place you'd go if you were concerned about US extradition. For instance as the case of the US spy Edward Lee Howard in 1992 shows, the Swedish US extradition treaty prohibits extradition for espionage and the European arrest warrant expressly prohibits extradition to a 3rd country.

 

[Frozenprince]

The only one with sources too, I've noticed.

http://www.politico.eu/article/swedish-court-upholds-julian-assange-detention-order/

Sweden has upheld their request for extradition.

 

[TestOfTide]

dude was absent from this website for almost a decade until he came back very recently so he could make some "I'm not a Trump supporter, HOWEVER" type dogshit posts

it's a real mystery to be sure

And OF COURSE he doesn't believe the 18 agencies who say Russia hacked the DNC.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226653083&postcount=697
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226655183&postcount=743

And OF COURSE he blames the "centrist" democrats for there not being sweeping Criminal Justice Reform:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=225202647&highlight=#post225202647

 

[Antagon]

Eichenwald has a long history of bizarre behavior, and extremely questionable ethics:

http://www.npr.org/sections/visibleman/2007/08/sex_checks_and_the_new_york_ti_1.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...3/eichenwalds_weird_checkbook_journalism.html

So, reading this his questionable ethical behavior is that he at the same time wrote a story about a boy that was a victim of child pornography and tried to help that boy?

Yeah, I understand that journalists shouldn't pay sources but in this case I can't see it being that questionable ethically.

 

[Osiris]

Assange is in a prison of his own making, he can leave it anytime and face justice or exoneration of his alleged crimes, fuck Assange & fuck Wikileaks.

 

[Wilsongt]

And OF COURSE he doesn't believe the 18 agencies who say Russia hacked the DNC.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226653083&postcount=697
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226655183&postcount=743

And OF COURSE he blames the "centrist" democrats for there not being sweeping Criminal Justice Reform:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=225202647&highlight=#post225202647

You know, pulling up the receipts of posters is useful in some occasions... Just don't overdo it.

 

[Dopus]

I'm going to say the guy who refused to go to Sweden and wanted the police there to play by his rules instead of the regular ones.


So he can sit there until the end of time or finally accept the rulings of the court. Fine by me.

The Swedish prosecutors could have interviewed him at the embassy whenever they wanted. Instead, they provided inadequate excuses and would not give assurances that Assange would not get extradited if he did in fact travel to Sweden for questioning.

As a result of this, he is currently still at the embassy which amounts to arbitrary detention according to the United Nations.

What choice did he have?

 

[pgtl_10]

The salt for this guy in this thread helps season my food.

 

[ClosingADoor]

The Swedish prosecutors could have interviewed him at the embassy whenever they wanted. Instead, they provided inadequate excuses and would not give assurances that Assange would not get extradited if he did in fact travel to Sweden for questioning.

As a result of this, he is currently still at the embassy which amounts to arbitrary detention according to the United Nations.

What choice did he have?

So the prosecutor should travel to another country so the guy can get questioned? Why are we giving this guy special rules to play by? He can get his ass to a police station and answer the questions.

 

[alexthekid]

Never really understood the rationale behind oh Sweden would extradite Assange to the US. In Sweden an individual has far greater protection on extradition than the UK does. The UK is about the last place you'd go if you were concerned about US extradition. For instance as the case of the US spy Edward Lee Howard in 1992 shows, the Swedish US extradition treaty prohibits extradition for espionage and the European arrest warrant expressly prohibits extradition to a 3rd country.

Swedish law prohibits a bunch of stuff, but when the US comes knocking with a CIA plane and agents. That doesnt really matter, just ask Ahmed Agiza or Mohammed Alzery how much the swedish laws that says that you cant be extradited if you risker torture, helped when they where getting tortured.

The only thing that might help Assange is all the publicity regarding the case. But I still feel like Sweden would find a reason to put him on a flight to the US.

 

[sugarhigh4242]

Never really understood the rationale behind oh Sweden would extradite Assange to the US. In Sweden an individual has far greater protection on extradition than the UK does. The UK is about the last place you'd go if you were concerned about US extradition. For instance as the case of the US spy Edward Lee Howard in 1992 shows, the Swedish US extradition treaty prohibits extradition for espionage and the European arrest warrant expressly prohibits extradition to a 3rd country.

Yeah I tend to agree with this. But since receiving asylum, it's kind of irrelevant. Obviously Assange is going to be better protected in the embassy than in custody in Sweden.

 

[Osiris]

So the prosecutor should travel to another country so the guy can get questioned? Why are we giving this guy special rules to play by? He can get his ass to a police station and answer the questions.

Yup, I'm not seeing why people think he deserves any special treatment compared to every other person on the planet. Fuck him.

 

[Kinyou]

edit: wrong thread

 

[Veritigo_X]

The only one with sources too, I've noticed.

Alright, let's look at "questionable ethics." You seem to think that causing Eichenwald to have a seizure is a worthy punishment for this, ethics must be something pretty important to you.

WikiLeaks in the past year have doxxed the names and addresses of nearly every woman voter in Turkey. This act does not serve the public interests whatsoever and put these women at risk.

Wikileaks also defended Milo Yiannopoulos after he lead a targeted harrassment campaign against Leslie Jones on Twitter. They're defense of the alt-right and using their (not so) coded language has been a pattern this past year. I linked a tweet blatantly referencing this a couple posts ago.

For someone who has made it clear that "questionable ethics" is something very import to them, you seem okay overlooking these issues.

 

[Dopus]

So the prosecutor should travel to another country so the guy can get questioned? Why are we giving this guy special rules to play by? He can get his ass to a police station and answer the questions.

Did you miss the extradition part or are you just incredibly naive?

 

[ClosingADoor]

Did you miss the extradition part or are you just incredibly naive?

The US has not asked Sweden for extradition. Another poster said the warrant does not give Sweden the right to extradite him to another country.

Why is it naive to ask someone to abide by the rulings of multiple courts to help in an investigation against him?

 

[HStallion]

The US has not asked Sweden for extradition. Another poster said the warrant does not give Sweden the right to extradite him to another country.

Why is it naive to ask someone to abide by the rulings of multiple courts to help in an investigation against him?

Because he's fighting the powers that be of course.

 

[.JayZii]

What's the password to the Slytherin common room?

 

[sugarhigh4242]

Alright, let's look at "questionable ethics." You seem to think that causing Eichenwald to have a seizure is a worthy punishment for this, ethics must be something pretty important to you.

WikiLeaks in the past year have doxxed the names and addresses of nearly every woman voter in Turkey. This act does not serve the public interests whatsoever and put these women at risk.

Wikileaks also defended Milo Yiannopoulos after he lead a targeted harrassment campaign against Leslie Jones on Twitter. They're defense of the alt-right and using their (not so) coded language has been a pattern this past year. I linked a tweet blatantly referencing this a couple posts ago.

For someone who has made it clear that "questionable ethics" is something very import to them, you seem okay overlooking these issues.

You should read your own links, starting with the editor's correction at the top.

For even further clarification:
https://twitter.com/natsecgeek/status/758059030527021056

 

[Marvel]

What's the password to the Slytherin common room?

Lol.

 

[Veritigo_X]

You should read your own links, starting with the editor's correction at the top.

For even further clarification:
https://twitter.com/natsecgeek/status/758059030527021056

The fact that they were even promoting it as some important leak was the potentially damaging part. Notice in the comments under the tweet you posted that they don't give a fuck.

 

[Insane Metal]

Looks like it. Ingraham is a big, big fan of Trump.

LOL

These will never get old. The next 8 years will be amazing.

 

[Dopus]

The US has not asked Sweden for extradition. Another poster said the warrant does not give Sweden the right to extradite him to another country.

Why is it naive to ask someone to abide by the rulings of multiple courts to help in an investigation against him?

You mean they've not publicly asked. The US has a secret indictment against Assange and there has been secret grand jury against Wikileaks and Assange.

I don't care what another poster has said. The fact that Sweden will not provide assurances that they will not extradite him to the United States is enough of a reason. It's literally as simple as that.

 

[Alucrid]

edit: wrong thread

 

[TestOfTide]

The salt for this guy in this thread helps season my food.

I like that this is your only post because you know if you tried to defend Wikileaks YET AGAIN you would expose yourself.

 

[sugarhigh4242]

I like that this is your only post because you know if you tried to defend Wikileaks YET AGAIN you would expose yourself.

How many people are you going to make veiled accusations against in this thread?

 

[HStallion]

How many people are you going to make veiled accusations against in this thread?

Well it seems fairly fitting in a thread about Assange and wikileaks.

 

[Frozenprince]

You mean they've not publicly asked. The US has a secret indictment against Assange and there has been secret grand jury against Wikileaks and Assange.

I don't care what another poster has said. The fact that Sweden will not provide assurances that they will not extradite him to the United States is enough of a reason. It's literally as simple as that.

That's not how international law works.

 

[sugarhigh4242]

That's not how international law works.

Do you think the UN is an authority on how international law works?

 

[ClosingADoor]

You mean they've not publicly asked. The US has a secret indictment against Assange and there has been secret grand jury against Wikileaks and Assange.

I don't care what another poster has said. The fact that Sweden will not provide assurances that they will not extradite him to the United States is enough of a reason. It's literally as simple as that.

How would they provide assurances? If you already think they will do it, a "sure dude, no extradition to the US" would mean little. Plus it would set a terrible example that the suspect can set the demands for his interaction with the police. That is not how it is supposed to be. Certainly not after multiple courts have judged that his concerns are invalid and he can be extradited.

 

[Dopus]

How would they provide assurances? If you already think they will do it, a "sure dude, no extradition to the US" would mean little. Plus it would set a terrible example that the suspect can set the demands for his interaction with the police. That is not how it is supposed to be. Certainly not after multiple courts have judged that his concerns are invalid and he can be extradited.

Just what are your taking about? The courts in Sweden can provide a legal assurance. Moreover, he was just wanted for questioning which has now taken place.

And a demand for what exactly? That he won't get extradited to the United States? That's literally all they asked for. Set a terrible example? This is just laughable. They're not asking them to act out of the law here.

It was suspect right from the beginning. Just because there was a court ruling doesn't mean something is right or moral. You're clutching at straws here. The facts remain that he didn't have any real choice but to decline the Swedish invites because they couldn't guarantee him that they - Sweden, would not extradite him to the United States. It's also clear that the prosecutors could have questioned him at the embassy itself which they ended up doing. A few weeks later the UN panel found his detention unlawful.

 

[Mael]

You mean they've not publicly asked. The US has a secret indictment against Assange and there has been secret grand jury against Wikileaks and Assange.

I don't care what another poster has said. The fact that Sweden will not provide assurances that they will not extradite him to the United States is enough of a reason. It's literally as simple as that.

So anyone willing to provide solid source on that BS nugget or are we too distracted by the Trump supporter to ever bother trying to consider additional conspiracies?

 

[Palette Swap]

This is an absurd smear based on innuendo ("reputation" being the keyword in the headline), dubious guilt by association, and intentional misinterpretation. The actual Assange/Wikileaks quotes provided are mocking elite fake-activist liberals, and the cynical use of antisemitism accusations by partisans to prevent criticism of far-right Israeli policy

You don't put "tribalist establishment climbers" and ((())) in the same tweet by pure coincidence. The most generous reading is that it's signaling to all antisemites out there.
Shame on you for downplaying antisemitism and harassment in the same thread.

 

[HStallion]

So anyone willing to provide solid source on that BS nugget or are we too distracted by the Trump supporter to ever bother trying to consider additional conspiracies?

Yeah I was kind of wondering this myself. If its secret, how do we all know about it or was this leaked as well?

 

[Ponn]

So anyone willing to provide solid source on that BS nugget or are we too distracted by the Trump supporter to ever bother trying to consider additional conspiracies?

The proof is right next to the pizzagate papers in the filing cabinet.