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July Wrasslin |OT| The Game, The Kane, The Pain, and The Insane (AJ)

Aiii

So not worth it
So in this pas week, Kane has lost cleanly to Show, baked a cake for AJ and lit a BBQ for Teddy Long.

We're sure going through the Kane cycle at breakneck speed aren't we? Demasking next week?
 
I can't believe I awakened to read an argument about Kane never putting people over and Mysterio being some kind of paragon of elevating talent, oh man. They answer is that they both put people over but these crazy bias folks just can't accept that.
Using Ryder as evidence against though, that's pretty funny.
 

antonz

Member
Well decided im going to MITB. Managed to snag some excellent seats a few rows back from ringside in prime sign territory. Time to dream up a wrasslegaf sign
 

Kyoufu

Member
I can't believe I awakened to read an argument about Kane never putting people over and Mysterio being some kind of paragon of elevating talent, oh man. They answer is that they both put people over but these crazy bias folks just can't accept that.
Using Ryder as evidence against though, that's pretty funny.

Kane's entire career has been about putting people over. Who dares to argue otherwise?
 

Ithil

Member
There was really an argument where someone argued that Kane doesn't put people over? I'm not sure what career you've seen, but it must have been HHH's or something and you mistook it for Kane's.
 
Vintage Wrestling Observer notes from May 8th, 1995;

ALL JAPAN;

New tour opens 5/20 concluding with a 6/9 show at Budokan Hall. Opening night at Korakuen Hall has Mitsuharu Misawa & Jun Akiyama & Satoru Asako vs. Stan Hansen & Bobby Duncum Jr. (making his debut) & Rob Van Dam, Toshiaki Kawada vs. Tsuyoshi Kikuchi and Kenta Kobashi & Tamon Honda (first match back after suffering a broken jaw) vs. The Patriot (returning as a full-time regular leaving WCW) & Johnny Ace. Biggest show before the Budokan will be 5/26 in Sapporo with Hansen defending the Triple Crown against Misawa and Kawada & Taue vs. Dan Kroffat & Doug Furnas. Budokan on 6/9 has Misawa & Kobashi defending the tag titles against Kawada & Taue and Kroffat defending the PWF jr. title against Van Dam.

They may be giving Terry Gordy another shot in July.

ALL JAPAN WOMEN;

Sakie Hasegawa of All Japan women is out of action after undergoing surgery last week for a broken orbital bone in her eye. On 4/26 in Yokosuka, she did a plancha onto Aja Kong but Kong caught her with the stiff backhand punch and cracked the bone. No word on how long she'll be out of action. Hasegawa was scheduled to team with Manami Toyota challenging for the WWWA tag titles of Kyoko Inoue & Takako Inoue on 5/2 at Korakuen Hall. Mariko Yoshida subbed and the Inoues won the 2/3 fall match.

ECW;

They ran shows on 4/28 in Mifflintown, PA and 4/29 in Dover, DE over the weekend drawing 185 and 375 respectively. Shane Douglas was injured the second night in a match with Marty Jannetty. It was a throat injury, originally believed to be a crushed larynx but he's just a little bruised up and will be making the weekend shots in Fort Lauderdale and Tampa. The match ended just as Douglas got hurt and Jannetty beat him, which may have been a change of the planned finish. Douglas came out wearing a WWF t-shirt. If anything were to happen regarding Douglas and WWF, don't expect it until at least after the school year ends since Douglas isn't going to walk out on his job as a history teacher this close to the end of the year.

Jim Neidhart debuted over the weekend losing to Jannetty and Ron Simmons.

Eddy Guerrero and Dean Malenko tore the house down both nights in TV title matches with Guerrero winning the first night and them going the time limit in a ****1/4 the second night.

Cactus Jack over Terry Funk headlined both shows with Jack winning when Sandman's interference backfired.

IWA-JAPAN;

As expected, The Head Hunters re-formed their tag team after their 5/1 grudge match at Korakuen Hall in a glass death match. B pinned A after a brainbuster on broken glass in a match which saw each man break a beer bottle over their brothers' head. After the bloodbath the two shook hands and announced they would start teaming the next night.

IWA June tour is 6/2 to 6/7 with Cactus Jack, Tracy Smothers, Leatherface, Crypt Keeper, Axl & Ian Rotten and Lion (Gran Apache).

NEW JAPAN;

All verifiable pro wrestling attendance records were shot to bits over the weekend as two shows put on by the North Korean government, New Japan Pro Wrestling and Antonio Inoki drew a reported 340,000 fans to Pyongyang's May Day Stadium.

The opening night on 4/28 nearly doubled the previous all-time attendance record for pro wrestling drawing a reported 150,000 fans. The next night shattered the record with an overflow crowd announced as 190,000. The figures were so staggering it may be a long time coming before numbers like this are ever approached.

Appearing from 5/25 to 6/14 are Arn Anderson, Steve Austin, Mike Enos, Ron Simmons, Dean Malenko and Black Tiger.

Senator Antonio Inoki is up for re-election this year so expect him to use the North Korean deal as a political tool.

USWA;

The appearance of Sid Vicious primarily on 5/1 drew the largest crowd in months, estimated at 2,500 (we'll have a more accurate figure next week). Razor Ramon also appeared although he was in Memphis one month back and didn't mean anything at the gate then.

WCW jobber Barry Houston is headed in. Paul Wight was supposed to come in but the **** hit the fan over that one and it isn't going to happen.

UWFi;

UWFI on 5/17 in Osaka has Joe Malenko debuting on top against Nobuhiko Takada, plus Gary Albright vs. Masahito Kakihara, Kiyoshi Tamura vs. Kazuo Yamazaki and Yoji Anjyo & Yuko Miyato vs. Billy Scott & Naoki Sano.

WCW;

The Great American Bash on 7/16 is almost confirmed as from Huntington Beach, CA headlined by Hulk Hogan vs. Vader for the WCW title in a cage match. There will be no admission charge live. With Vader having dropped the UWFI title, he can now politically do the one job left to do in this program. WCW needed to put a strong main event on the table since this show comes two days after the UFC PPV show.

Expect the Meng vs. Brian Pillman squash U.S. title tourney match to be held live on the Main Event show on 5/21 from St. Petersburg.

An update on the Austin situation. A few weeks back when he left Center Stage where he was scheduled to do another job for Sting, it was because his daughter (not son as reported here) was legitimately quite ill and she was hospitalized for a few days. He definitely didn't make up an excuse that night.

Steve Regal suffered some nerve damage in one of his arms coming back from Japan. No word on how serious but it was said to be scary at the time.

Brian Pillman was also injured suffering a concussion when a jobber dropped him on his head as he was attempting to do a Mexican huracanrana. The TV deal with Pillman and Bunkhouse Buck wasn't a planned angle (how could it have been, it was too clever?) but just a way to get Pillman's hand raised because he was in no condition to wrestle. He's supposed to be okay by now.

And speaking of that, this weeks word is that the cruiserweight division idea has been dropped. Stay tune for more changes.

The Randy Savage heel turn is now scheduled for around the spring of 1996.

Hulk Hogan is opening a Pastamania restaurant at the Mall of America in Minneapolis on 6/15. This is supposed to be the initial in what they are trying to turn into a franchise. They are negotiating leases in Baltimore and Philadelphia and plan to open five restaurants this year and another 25 more in 1996. The company plans on introducing Hulk Hogan Pasta and sauces for supermarket distribution this summer. Now that's a product that sounds like a winner.

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WWF;

The career of 22-year-old 1-2-3 Kid (Sean Waltman) is somewhat in jeopardy after suffering a broken neck at the 4/24 television tapings in Omaha.

The injury, acknowledged on WWF television programs this past weekend, was believed to be an aggravation of an injury suffered a few days earlier while on the European tour. Kid had suffered a brain concussion on 3/12 in Anaheim and tried to come back too soon and was shaken up again one week later during a show in Madison Square Garden. This left him well below 100 percent for a show one week later at Tokyo Sumo Hall.

The injury, a cracked seventh cervical vertebrae, is believed to have occurred when he was in a tag match with Razor Ramon against Jeff Jarrett and The Roadie (Brian James) in a dark match designed to get the four ready for their PPV match scheduled on 5/14 in Syracuse. In the match, Ramon did a spot where he did an over the head backwards bodyslam with Kid onto Roadie, and Kid landed wrong. Roadie wound up pinning Kid with a DDT. While this isn't confirmed, I believe this was the scheduled finish and not a finish change just to end the match immediately because of concern over the injury.

According to reports, the first doctor he saw told him that his wrestling career was over, but a second opinion was that he'd recover in due time. He was waiting for results of tests that will come back toward the latter part of this week which could determine just how serious the break was. The general belief at press time, which could change this week, is that he'll be out of action for two to three months and that most likely he would return to wrestling. In some ways the injury was similar to a famous injury suffered by Bruno Sammartino in a 1976 match with Stan Hansen. Sammartino, who was 40 at the time, returned about ten weeks later although the return was rushed because he, as WWWF champion, was needed to headline a Shea Stadium rematch.

Monday Night Raw set its all-time record on 4/24 for the Diesel vs. Bam Bam Bigelow title match doing a 3.9 rating which translates into 2.28 million homes, the largest audience to watch pro wrestling in the United States since the Hogan-Flair match last August from Cedar Rapids.

Looks like Well Dunn is history.

Missy Hiatt was turned down for her attempted announcing gig.

It was reported in Pro Wrestling Torch that WWF and the attorney for Kevin Wacholz (Nailz) reached an out-of-court settlement on the lawsuit and countersuit. It all started in December 1992 when Wacholz jumped on Vince McMahon and started choking him when Wacholz complained about his payoff for the SummerSlam (reportedly an $8,000 payoff for a horrible match with Virgil) at Wembley Stadium. Wacholz then called 911 and claimed McMahon had sexually assaulted him and what he did was in response to it, a story that basically nobody there believed. McMahon sued Wacholz for filing the police report against him alleging McMahon as a sexual criminal. Wacholz filed a counterclaim claiming he was sexually assaulted. Titan had attempted to keep Wacholz from working as Nailz after he was fired since they came up with the gimmick. He pretty much did so anyway except in WCW where he worked one shot as The Prisoner. Wacholz then made headlines testifying in the McMahon trial that he was there when McMahon told Rick Rood to get on steroids and that McMahon told him he needed to get on steroids. The former could at least be a possibility since Rood testified to something similar but claimed to have assumed McMahon meant steroids without saying steroids. The latter, McMahon telling Wacholz, given the time frame of the conversation, seems pretty unbelievable. In January, both sides' attorneys reached settlements on the respective suits in that both would drop their cases with no money changing hands but that Wacholz would be allowed to work as Nailz from that point forward. Wacholz refused to sign the settlement, not wanting to drop his case against McMahon but Titan's attorneys have asked the court to enforce is saying since his lawyers, acting as his counsel, agreed, that should be it. A hearing is scheduled on the matter on 5/10.

The Omaha World Herald did a feature previewing the Raw taping on Mike Hallick (Mantaur), who was heavyweight high school state champ in Nebraska in 1985. Because of the article, Mantaur got a nice babyface pop his first time out on the show, but by the second time, even the home towners were bored.
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
Monday Night Raw set its all-time record on 4/24 for the Diesel vs. Bam Bam Bigelow title match doing a 3.9 rating which translates into 2.28 million homes, the largest audience to watch pro wrestling in the United States since the Hogan-Flair match last August from Cedar Rapids.

Wow.
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
It was reported in Pro Wrestling Torch that WWF and the attorney for Kevin Wacholz (Nailz) reached an out-of-court settlement on the lawsuit and countersuit. It all started in December 1992 when Wacholz jumped on Vince McMahon and started choking him when Wacholz complained about his payoff for the SummerSlam (reportedly an $8,000 payoff for a horrible match with Virgil) at Wembley Stadium. Wacholz then called 911 and claimed McMahon had sexually assaulted him and what he did was in response to it, a story that basically nobody there believed. McMahon sued Wacholz for filing the police report against him alleging McMahon as a sexual criminal. Wacholz filed a counterclaim claiming he was sexually assaulted. Titan had attempted to keep Wacholz from working as Nailz after he was fired since they came up with the gimmick. He pretty much did so anyway except in WCW where he worked one shot as The Prisoner. Wacholz then made headlines testifying in the McMahon trial that he was there when McMahon told Rick Rood to get on steroids and that McMahon told him he needed to get on steroids. The former could at least be a possibility since Rood testified to something similar but claimed to have assumed McMahon meant steroids without saying steroids. The latter, McMahon telling Wacholz, given the time frame of the conversation, seems pretty unbelievable. In January, both sides' attorneys reached settlements on the respective suits in that both would drop their cases with no money changing hands but that Wacholz would be allowed to work as Nailz from that point forward. Wacholz refused to sign the settlement, not wanting to drop his case against McMahon but Titan's attorneys have asked the court to enforce is saying since his lawyers, acting as his counsel, agreed, that should be it. A hearing is scheduled on the matter on 5/10.

1. Nailz got paid $8k to wrestle? God damn.

2. Haha.
 
I enjoyed Smackdown, my 2 picks for MitB Ziggler and Cody made it eventually lol - was worried there for a bit last week. :|

Yea they weren't supposed to be in the same one, but, close enough. Just dumb they can't both win....... unless! OMG THEY DIDN'T HAVE CONTROL OF THE CASE AT THE TIME OF WIN SO WHO WINS OMG ITS A TIE THEY BOTH WIN!

Goldberg has a proper match, let me guess he wrestles the other next week and then both of them the week after. Onwards and upwards, a true test bout against Glacier after that please.

Del Rio should ask for people's papers every week, he sounds so funny doing it. Get Too Many Limes deported and we all win.

Called the rumble win too, at least once Bryan was out I said Ryderzzzzz.

As for the WWE Title match, its obvious Punk and Bryan are gonna ditch her and just start making out with each other instead. Preferably after Bryan is crowed NEEEEEEEEW WWE CHAMPION!
 

Linkified

Member
Having watched Smackdown, AJ is going to become WWE Champion by winning MITB she will run into the ring as the case falls in her hands.
 
I enjoyed Smackdown, my 2 picks for MitB Ziggler and Cody made it eventually lol - was worried there for a bit last week. :|

Yea they weren't supposed to be in the same one, but, close enough. Just dumb they can't both win....... unless! OMG THEY DIDN'T HAVE CONTROL OF THE CASE AT THE TIME OF WIN SO WHO WINS OMG ITS A TIE THEY BOTH WIN!

Wow I'm dense, they totally did that "control of the contract" thing on Raw just so that they could use it at MITB as a real thing, didn't they? Well if it leads to some sort of program between any combination of Tyson/Cody/Dolph then I'll be happy.

Punk was acting like a human being for both shows this week (though he briefly strayed at the start of Raw), so that was nice to see.
Still don't know how I feel about AJ being the main character of professional wrestling, but I'll give it a YES! until they give me real reason to say otherwise.
 

CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
Wow I'm dense, they totally did that "control of the contract" thing on Raw just so that they could use it at MITB as a real thing, didn't they? Well if it leads to some sort of program between any combination of Tyson/Cody/Dolph then I'll be happy.

Punk was acting like a human being for both shows this week (though he briefly strayed at the start of Raw), so that was nice to see.
Still don't know how I feel about AJ being the main character of professional wrestling, but I'll give it a YES! until they give me real reason to say otherwise.

Yep, one of the MITB matches is going to be nothing but briefcase hot potato, I reckon.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
All I can hope is they start using women wrestlers from now on. Now that all these non-wrestlers are quitting one-by-one.

This is a good thing.
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
I have a feeling that this years MITB is going to top last years.

We have D.Brine vs. CM Punk which by default is going to be awesome. The Smackdown MITB Match is chock full of wrestlers that the IWC adores (Rhodes, Ziggler, Kidd, Sandow(?)). The Raw MITB match has potential to be decent with Jericho in there, but considering the stardom, age and size of those guys it won't be the crazy high intensity ladder match we're used to.
 
I have a feeling that this years MITB is going to top last years.

We have D.Brine vs. CM Punk which by default is going to be awesome. The Smackdown MITB Match is chock full of wrestlers that the IWC adores (Rhodes, Ziggler, Kidd, Sandow(?)). The Raw MITB match has potential to be decent with Jericho in there, but considering the stardom, age and size of those guys it won't be the crazy high intensity ladder match we're used to.

Last year had one of the biggest WWE angle in years fuelled further by an insane crowd, Christian finally beating Orton for the title by being kicked in the nads and internet favourite D Bryne winning MITB.
It's a tall order to top that. As good as the WWE title match should be and as solid as the ladder matches no doubt will be I can't see it overcoming last years event at all.
Should be good fun though.
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
Last year had one of the biggest WWE angle in years fuelled further by an insane crowd, Christian finally beating Orton for the title by being kicked in the nads and internet favourite D Bryne winning MITB.
It's a tall order to top that. As good as the WWE title match should be and as solid as the ladder matches no doubt will be I can't see it overcoming last years event at all.
Should be good fun though.

True, Sheamus vs. Del Rio doesn't exactly elicit much excitement from most of us.
 
True, Sheamus vs. Del Rio doesn't exactly elicit much excitement from most of us.

I expect this to be a pretty decent match actually, both are solid enough workers and we haven't been overexposed to this feud yet.

But there's no way this year's can top last. If only because Chicago >>>> Phoenix

Is the WWE Championship Contract only going to be four or will they announce more contestants? The only people eligible left (who aren't already in a match that night) are Rey, Miz, Orton, HHH, and Bork Laser
 
I have a feeling that this years MITB is going to top last years.

We have D.Brine vs. CM Punk which by default is going to be awesome. The Smackdown MITB Match is chock full of wrestlers that the IWC adores (Rhodes, Ziggler, Kidd, Sandow(?)). The Raw MITB match has potential to be decent with Jericho in there, but considering the stardom, age and size of those guys it won't be the crazy high intensity ladder match we're used to.

I don't think it has a chance based on atmosphere alone. Besides, this show will more then likely end with Cena's music as he raises the red "suitcase" while last years show ended with an amazing open ended storyline. I think it will be much better than your average PPV simply because of the Smackdown MITB match and Bryan/Punk but there is probably going to be a ton of filler on this show (Ryback squash, Brodus dancing, Sin Cara vs Hunico/Camacho/Random jobber) for no reason. Finally, no matter how much they try, I just don't think people care about Del Rio vs Sheamus.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
I have a feeling that this years MITB is going to top last years.
Nothing on this year's card has the potential to be as hype-inducing as last year's main event feud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALq6UnikiiQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_flcuOhYT8

Though the actual wrestling in the WWE title match is likely to be a lot better since it's Punk/Bryan. They've gone up against each other so many times this year, though, I'm wondering how they're going to keep it fresh.
 

somedevil

Member
I have a feeling that this years MITB is going to top last years.

We have D.Brine vs. CM Punk which by default is going to be awesome. The Smackdown MITB Match is chock full of wrestlers that the IWC adores (Rhodes, Ziggler, Kidd, Sandow(?)). The Raw MITB match has potential to be decent with Jericho in there, but considering the stardom, age and size of those guys it won't be the crazy high intensity ladder match we're used to.

I don't think that possible because this money in the bank is going against last year pay per view of the year.

Last year build was great and with the crowd and the outcome it won't happen. I think Sheamus and Del Rio will be good but depends on the crowd if its like the Raw one he will have major heat. I do think this pay per view can be good but everyone will be pissed because Cena is going to win again. Insert my avatar pic here.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Poor Cole, not even AJ wants him. And she makes out with EVERYONE!

Sjees, the guy just can't catch a break.
 

Ithil

Member
Nothing on this year's card has the potential to be as hype-inducing as last year's main event feud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALq6UnikiiQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_flcuOhYT8

Though the actual wrestling in the WWE title match is likely to be a lot better since it's Punk/Bryan. They've gone up against each other so many times this year, though, I'm wondering how they're going to keep it fresh.

This will probably remain the biggest/best night of Punk's entire career no matter how good/bad the rest of it goes.

Such wasted potential, he could be getting these pops in every location today if they'd actually made it all about Punk and kept it that way, not friggin HHH.
 

G-Fex

Member
CM Punk and HHH are assholes.

Nash tries to come in to make wrestling cool again and those two morons gotta go kill off any fun to be had.

SMH.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
Did you Katie Vick up that girl from your class yet or what?
Oh, shit. I forgot to tell you guys about her.

We went out on Friday, and spent all day together. She was great and very casual. There are a few things things that she's very passionate about (mainly the environment), and she spent most of the time talking about that. We went to see the Lincoln movie (movie wasn't that good), then went to dinner. She brought up the subject of wrestling and I acted like I was just a casual fan (playing it cool), and mentioned Kane (she's a fan, of course), but she said her favorite was Orton. She's really stressed out now because she's out of college and having a hard time finding employment, and the discussion really hampered her mood. She's very cheerful naturally, though. The night was fun, and I did get a quick kiss in at the end of the night (nothing big), and I'm supposed to see her sometime next week. I don't know if I want to pursue a relationship with her, though, because there is one other girl that I've always wanted to date (but distance and schedule gets in the way), and I'm thinking about just saying fuck it and trying for her, finally.

Good night, though.
 

ecurbj

Member
Not turning this into DatingGAF. But...

Keep her on your lineup though Playa. You guys have something in common which is wrestling. You can be friends with her and meet her friends and you know where it goes from there.
 
All you gotta do Soul is go Shucky Ducky Quack Quack and do a Kaneroonie, trust me on this.
don't

Hey remember when Kane and Shane took time out of their brutal violent rivalry to have dinner.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
Not turning this into DatingGAF. But...

Keep her on your lineup though Playa. You guys have something in common which is wrestling. You can be friends with her and meet her friends and you know where it goes from there.
Yeah, I mean she's a very sweet girl, but I'm just not sure right now about her.

All you gotta do Soul is go Shucky Ducky Quack Quack and do a Kaneroonie, trust me on this.
don't

Hey remember when Kane and Shane took time out of their brutal violent rivalry to have dinner.
I wonder where they went to dinner. I should ask her out for there.

Nah, I probably wouldn't be able to afford it.
 
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