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July Wrasslin |OT| The Game, The Kane, The Pain, and The Insane (AJ)
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I'm pretty sure the Ninja turtles are taller than Rey Mysterio
Reneledarker
Banned
He's truly a culero.
Perspicacity
Banned
Mysterio? LOL!!!!
6-1-9!!! LOL!!!!
This here is highlights from a match between Dolph Ziggler and Zack Ryder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g_TTzr6xN4
Ziggler does not have very much legitimacy as a threat, but he does have the ability to sell better than pretty much anyone. He makes Ryder's goofy ass leg lariat look like it packed the power of a Goldberg spear.
This here is a match between Kane and Zack Ryder from about a month later:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlUYUiXxNIE&feature=related
Kane doesn't sell a fucking thing and does everything he can to make Ryder look like an ineffectual chump. It wouldn't have hurt Kane a scratch to let Ryder get the upper hand once in the match, but he doesn't because he really doesn't have the talent required to actually sell.
Now, I don't really care about Ryder. I think that letting him get more TV exposure and letting him win matches was a bad decision. But that doesn't change the fact that Kane not only didn't do a fucking thing to help Ryder, he actually made him regress after a much more talented wrestler (Ziggler) worked his ass off to make Ryder look good.
Keyser Soze
Member
Speaking of Turtles
Ziggler? Ziggler isn't an established veteran, and Kane's character is designed to be an unstoppable monster, and he still pushes young guys and puts people over.
I mean, are you really trying to argue that Kane doesn't put young guys over and doesn't try to help push people?
LOL!!!!!!
Mysterio???? Fucking Mysterio? I'm on to you, Persp, you crazy fool! LOL!
Keyser Soze
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Reneledarker
Banned
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Perspicacity
Banned
You haven't even named a single god damn wrestler that Kane has put over. I'll give you Umaga and that's about it.
He's made all of the following look like shit:
- RVD
- Hurricane
- Matt Hardy
- Snitsky
- Cade and Murdoch (not to mention Kendrick/London by extension)
- Chavo
- Mike Knox
- MVP (in more than one feud)
- The entire tag team division in various years throughout his career (the most recent being last year with Big Shoe, but you could look at any of his tag division runs and a few of his "unstoppable monster" runs wherein he would beat the tag division by himself)
Yeah, Ziggler isn't an established veteran and he's still done more for the careers of younger talent than god damn Kane has.
Also, at no point were you to take my posts as an endorsement of Mysterio but rather a slight against Kane. Move past it and actually address your ridiculous statement
Professor Beef
Banned
You already made your point, Persp. Stop getting trolled by Soul and move on.
He's put over practically everyone, what are you talking about? He just put over Punk, Orton, Cena. In 2008, he had a feud with Mysterio where they wrestled multiple times, and he lost every time.
As far as younger guys looking to get established, he put over Edge (his original feud with Edge is what catapulted him into the main event), Umaga, Snitsky, Khali. None of these guys ultimately worked out, but he put them over as the WWE was desperate at the time to find a new "monster" wrestler. Hell, I remember when he lost randomly to Kofi and Chris Masters, just to get them over (this is when Kofi looked like he could still get pushed to the next level). He put over Albert and lost the IC title to him, in another of the WWE's attempts to create new "monsters". He lost to Big Daddy V in another attempt to create a new "monster". He lost to fucking X-Pac, HHH (before HHH was banging Steph), Jericho (when Jericho was floundering in the midcard back in 2000). Hell, Batista's first feud of any kind in the WWE was against Kane, and he went beat Kane in 2002.
I can't believe someone is actually arguing that Kane doesn't put guys over. I can't believe this, lol. Persp, you crazy bastard! LOL!
EDIT: Kane only won one match against MVP and that was the Inferno match. MVP beat him three straight times before that. Matt Hardy actually won their first match, and Kane won their second. It was an even split. Snitsky won their first big match, and Kane only squashed him when Snitsky's push floundered totally, and it was now clear that he would be a jobber.
EDIT2: NONE of Kane's tag team title reigns lasted longer than a month or two except for Kane/Big Show's first tag title run. Then, however, there was no tag team division to bury. Hell, they spent most of that run in singles feuds, lol.
EDIT3: Hell, I remember when Rock was still in the NOD, and Kane put him over in 1998!
That show sounds boring. Not something I could get into , like True Blood.
I do however need to get into some tv shows somehow.
You gotta admit Kane put over X-pac.
Yup Kane put over the 1-2-3 kid.
TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
Ryder is better then Cena winning it.. Ziggler should have won it, made himself fight everybody for the belt, then sell and job to everyone's finisher lol
Dark Ninja
Member
That Zack Ryder vs Dolph feud made the US Title actually seem important because Ryder legitimately cared about the title. They completely burried Ryder because he got over on his own. The guy cares about what he does and they punish him for it. He isn't amazing in the ring but half the roster thats getting pushes isn't either.
Dude, I still can't believe someone was arguing that Kane doesn't put people over. The only way you can say that is if you know nothing about Kane, which I now Persp doesn't.
Hey Persp, have you managed yet to watch those five hours of Kane match footage that I linked you to months ago?
sf2fanatic
Member
Zig Zag would be the last one to be GM. Vickie would sucker him in to she being the GM
Net_Wrecker
Member
Kane put Tori and Lita over.
I think he even put Eve over, earlier this year.
She went from a nobody to a big character.
Then he put AJ over quickly with the beauty and the beast angle.
Who knows who he'll put over next? Maybe Alicia Fox? Maybe Justin Gabriel?
I know wrestlers have a big ego
I really don't know why it's such a big deal though
Kane puts em up, never down down down
Anything for the crowd crowd crowd(Wow!)
I think he even put Eve over, earlier this year.
She went from a nobody to a big character.
Then he put AJ over quickly with the beauty and the beast angle.
Who knows who he'll put over next? Maybe Alicia Fox? Maybe Justin Gabriel?
I know wrestlers have a big ego
I really don't know why it's such a big deal though
Kane puts em up, never down down down
Anything for the crowd crowd crowd(Wow!)
TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
can they not drive techno disco vehicles this time??
Hater
TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
when batman saves my life and where driving in the batmobile i dont wanna feel like im in a dance club
im sure hes blasting this too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Bjvcwpfug
im sure hes blasting this too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Bjvcwpfug
sf2fanatic
Member
So Fresh So Clean
Maybe he means like it's really good, just like the final fantasies before 7 were good. Of course the Final Fantasies after were really good too. Except FF8, I hate that one. Oh and 13, I hate that one too.
Perspicacity
Banned
I'm much happier about us talking about how handsome Justin Gabriel is than anything to do with Kane.
Bearded Gabriel is best Gabriel.
What do you guys think wasJustin Gabriel's The Cape Town Werewolf's best look?
Oh, I've also been told by female friends at the bar that Tyson Kidd is "really hot" (SmackDown! was on one of the big screens, yes I requested they put it on)
Bearded Gabriel is best Gabriel.
What do you guys think was
Oh, I've also been told by female friends at the bar that Tyson Kidd is "really hot" (SmackDown! was on one of the big screens, yes I requested they put it on)
Professor Beef
Banned
Everyone knows that FF4 is the worst Final Fantasy...actually, the worst RPG, ever.
FF4 is actually pretty good.
Plus how do you even say stuff like that when RPGs like Star Ocean 4 or Infinite Undiscovery exist?
EDIT: Oh and Kane sucks
Gabriel can ride the Kane motorcycle.
So that's how Kane and Tori left the arena together on monday nights!
They were probably talking about Kane, but you didn't realize it since you don't even know what he looks like. Maybe you should think about poking some eye holes into that mask you wear, Persp.I'm much happier about us talking about how handsome Justin Gabriel is than anything to do with Kane.
Bearded Gabriel is best Gabriel.
What do you guys think wasJustin Gabriel'sThe Cape Town Werewolf's best look?
Oh, I've also been told by female friends at the bar that Tyson Kidd is "really hot" (SmackDown! was on one of the big screens, yes I requested they put it on)