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July Wrasslin |OT| The Game, The Kane, The Pain, and The Insane (AJ)

and what's the point of James storm wining rematch with Roode with no title on the line?


just idiotic to given into the IWC flavor of the month

He's also the flavor of the month with the crowds. It's good business to go with the guy who has the crowd and IWC on his side
 

Ithil

Member
Me too, but I think Bob Rude needed to be protected a little on the finish while still giving Aries a clean win.

Don't worry, it's TNA, they hate not fucking up angles. Roode will win it back on Nitro, I mean Thunder, I mean Impact, and they'll build to the EPIC CONCLUSION with James Storm in October.
 

Kaladin

Member
and what's the point of James storm wining rematch with Roode with no title on the line?


just idiotic to given into the IWC flavor of the month

Storm has lost steam since he lost at Lockdown......Aries has done nothing but gain momentum since Destination X last year. Aries is the right guy to be the face of the promotion.
 

remnant

Banned
and what's the point of James storm wining rematch with Roode with no title on the line?


just idiotic to given into the IWC flavor of the month

You have to be kidding. Storm isn't the number one babyface anymore. Aries is and it's smart for TNA to go with the money.

Would you have told Vince last year that Cena needs to win at MitBlast year so they can stick to the original Cena vs Alberto plan?
 
and what's the point of James storm wining rematch with Roode with no title on the line?


just idiotic to given into the IWC flavor of the month
He isn't just supported by the IWC though. He's a huge favorite of the TNA fans, and his in ring work has been great. He deserves the belt.

You know how we always say that WWE needs to listen to their fans? That's what TNA just did. Hopefully it pays off.
 

RBH

Member
so rode has the title for like 1 year and loses it to a guy he's feuded with for a month?


HAHAHA

Strike while the iron is hot.

TNA has failed to do this time and time again in the past (Monty Brown, Raven, etc.), and this time around, I feel like they finally did the right thing. Aries has been red hot and has the crowd on his side, the feud between him and Roode has been built up great, and Roode is now good enough where this isn't going to hurt him imo.
 

UberTag

Member
The hail you guys talking bout? Aries has the crowd, is a great talent, and got the rocket. This is how wrestling works.
They've been brainwashed by the WWE into thinking a certain way of booking is the right way. When lo and behold unless you're booking solely for merchandise sales, Jimmies and their redneck parents... guess who's left? That's right. The hardcore fans. And the hardcore fans and the IWC are now one in the same.
 

Ultratech

Member
The hail you guys talking bout? Aries has the crowd, is a great talent, and got the rocket. This is how wrestling works.

Exactly. He's been putting some on some great matches the last several months and has showed he's damn entertaining. Plus, he's mad over with the crowd right now.
 

Kaladin

Member
they're money? they don't draw ratings and the PPV numbers are going to be bad as always, so what's the money?

This is how you start getting ratings though. Put on shows and deliver on matches with builds like this. That entire show was great top to bottom, but that main event build was perfect....you wanted Aries to win and it was special when he did. When was the last time that happened in wrestling?
 

VerTiGo

Banned
Those complaining about Aries victory and being the face of the company have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Once again, Storm is shit.
 

remnant

Banned
This is how you start getting ratings though. Put on shows and deliver on matches with builds like this. That entire show was great top to bottom, but that main event build was perfect....you wanted Aries to win and it was special when he did. When was the last time that happened in wrestling?

last year Punk vs Cena.

This is the same thing. Ditch the plan and go with the money.
 
This is how you start getting ratings though. Put on shows and deliver on matches with builds like this. That entire show was great top to bottom, but that main event build was perfect....you wanted Aries to win and it was special when he did. When was the last time that happened in wrestling?

Punk last year in Chicago, and that wasn't some bullshit win, Aries is a placeholder champ for 1-2 months TOPS
 
This is how you start getting ratings though. Put on shows and deliver on matches with builds like this. That entire show was great top to bottom, but that main event build was perfect....you wanted Aries to win and it was special when he did. When was the last time that happened in wrestling?

Punk at MITB last year, that should say it all
 

Ithil

Member
I made the stupid ass decision of getting more rum during that match so messages are starting to blur a lot, but it seems to me that Aries really needed to win that.

Roode has been a pretty awesome heel champ from what I can tell (a few PPVs and one Impact which was shit apart from Rubix/Dutt) , but he's been winning PPVs for infinity with cheap TNA dusty finishes.

Given all the momentum Aries had, would it really be right to have him lose to YET ANOTHER dusty finish? Maybe it should have got 5 minutes longer, but to me it seems like the right choice to have Aries win, he's a phenomenal talent and he should be a huge part of the show.

I said earlier, if they're determined to have James Storm (eh) win over ROOOOOO in a feel good moment at Bound For Glory (since Hulk Fucking Hogan fucked up their last Bound For Glory feel good moment), that's not til October, Austin "Awesome" Aries can have a solid reign and have Roode win back the title before BFG if they like.

Frankly I'd just tool the show around Aries and ROOOOO, but I'm not Dixie Carter, so whatever.
 

UberTag

Member
Punk last year in Chicago, and that wasn't some bullshit win, Aries is a placeholder champ for 1-2 months TOPS
Clearly you forgot that Punk's championship reign last year lasted LESS than a month before Del Rio cashed in a briefcase on him. And most of that month he was CO-champ with Cena.
 

eldoon

Member
The hail you guys talking bout? Aries has the crowd, is a great talent, and got the rocket. This is how wrestling works.



Well we know Storm doesn't draw. Why not give the guy who is actually popular a chance.

Doesnt draw ?

He came back and killed crimson had slam ppv biggest pop of the night.
He had a main event with jeff hardy - the most over guy wrestler at the impact zone and get equal chants.
Had a huge back story and time invested in him with his daughter.
They build a story line for 1 year and drop it now with him currently winning the BFG series.

Aries will still be as hot in 3 months.

Unless roode wins it back in a quick fashion then tna wasted a years worth of build up for nothing except to suck up to internet/roh fans.
 
Have Bobby ROOOOOOOO screw over Aries at Hardcore Justice or No Surrender. Storm wins BFG, they fight.

Simple as that. No need to freak out.
 
They've been brainwashed by the WWE into thinking a certain way of booking is the right way. When lo and behold unless you're booking solely for merchandise sales, Jimmies and their redneck parents... guess who's left? That's right. The hardcore fans. And the hardcore fans and the IWC are now one in the same.

a guy who hold the belt for damn near an year loses it in a 3 week feud to someone who's obviously going to drop it in 1-2months

that's just getting 1 years worth of scripts and shredding it
 
Punk last year in Chicago, and that wasn't some bullshit win, Aries is a placeholder champ for 1-2 months TOPS

How is it a "bullshit win"? It's the logical conclusion to the build - or did you expect them to build Aries up, and the X-Division by extension, have him give up the X-Division title for a shot at Roode, only to lose with no followup? Either Aries won now, or Roode cheated to win, and Aries won at the next PPV.
 
4th straight solid PPV for TNA. TNA is far and away better than the WWE. Not just tonight but for the last four months. Some of you guys need to give TNA a chance. It restores my faith that wrestling can be good again and also shows me that some companies actually give a shit what their fans think. It is the anti WWE right now.
 

Ithil

Member
Clearly you forgot that Punk's championship reign last year lasted LESS than a month before Del Rio cashed in a briefcase on him. And most of that month he was CO-champ with Cena.

CENA! GLORIOUS CENA WHO CAN'T LOSE CLEAN UNLESS IT'S AGAINST A BIG SHOT HOLLYWOOD ACTOR! FUCK NEW TALENT ONLY CENA WILL SAVE US!

You dug your own grave Vince. Fucking Cena. The kids who liked him in 2005 are grown up and hate him now, that's how long he's been sucking the life out of PPV main events.

Jesus I'm a useless 22 year old Irish prick and I am 100% certain I can run the WWE better than Vince at this stage.
 
Doesnt draw ?

He came back and killed crimson had slam ppv biggest pop of the night.
He had a main event with jeff hardy - the most over guy wrestler at the impact zone and get equal chants.
Had a huge back story and time invested in him with his daughter.
They build a story line for 1 year and drop it now with him currently winning the BFG series.

Aries will still be as hot in 3 months.

Unless roode wins it back in a quick fashion then tna wasted a years worth of build up for nothing except to suck up to internet/roh fans.
I don't think we watched the same show. There were multiple guys who got bigger pops at Slammiversary than Storm did. Even Christian Cage got a bigger pop.
 

UberTag

Member
Why does Storm need to win the title to get his revenge on Bobby Roode? Don't see how that's essential.
Also, don't see why Aries HAS to be a short-term transitional champion.
 

Ithil

Member
Those complaining about Aries victory and being the face of the company have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Once again, Storm is shit.

I think Storm is ok, but I'm sick of ok. The best need to be the main event, no exceptions.
 

VerTiGo

Banned
a guy who hold the belt for damn near an year loses it in a 3 week feud to someone who's obviously going to drop it in 1-2months

that's just getting 1 years worth of scripts and shredding it

No one has been on a hot streak like Aries has and Aries has been gaining momentum for months. Slammiversary should've shown everyone that with Aries vs. Joe.

Storm is a complete and utter waste of time. Just because he drinks beer and has a super kick finisher doesn't mean he is anywhere near as good as either Stone Cold or HBK. He's a shit performer and a draw for nothing.

Lol, Hardy... he can barely put on a good match anymore

If you removed Hardy, Storm, RVD and Anderson from the picture altogether, TNA would be a better product. That is the truth.
 

Kaladin

Member
Why does Storm need to win the title to get his revenge on Bobby Roode? Don't see how that's essential.

He doesn't. Just build up a final match between the two with some big stipulation at BFG....non-title matches are less predictable anyway.
 
Why does Storm need to win the title to get his revenge on Bobby Roode? Don't see how that's essential.

I guess it's because they've wasted a ton of time on it already, after failing to pull the trigger on Storm when it actually made sense, so they might as well follow through with the bullshit.
 

Ithil

Member
I'll say one thing for TNA. Any profits they get they need to sink into their music departments. Even if in the last few years WWE themes have gotten generic/homogenized (Downstrait again Jim?), TNA's music themes are absurdly forgettable to a stupid degree.
 
Too many Storm haters here. The guy is a very good draw for TNA and is super over with the TNA fanbase. That being said Austin Aries is as hot as any wrestler has been in a while. The guy is an absolute bonafide superstar and he needs the strap, Storm will get his turn but Aries is absolutely the best thing TNA has had in a LONG time.
 

Kaladin

Member
Time for the IWC to mark out again:

PWInsider.com has confirmed that WWE has signed British star PAC, who had been working for Dragon Gate in Japan and DGUSA here in the States. Billed as the "Man that Gravity Forgot", he is a hell of a flier. This is a great signing.
 

VerTiGo

Banned
I'll say one thing for TNA. Any profits they get they need to sink into their music departments. Even if in the last few years WWE themes have gotten generic/homogenized (Downstrait again Jim?), TNA's music themes are absurdly forgettable to a stupid degree.

Roode's theme is awesome. Aries is bound to get a new one now since's he's champ, as Roode before him. Storm got a theme because they were shaping him to be the face of the company before Aries took the reigns and got over with the fans.

Aries will keep belt and face either AJ or Joe at Bound for Glory. I'm calling it and I have been calling that Aries will beat Roode for the title for a long time now. That's if TNA does the right moves.

Aries will be a heel. I promise you this. You just got to find a way to do it but he still hasn't accepted the fans in his promos. In fact, he rejects them still. Glad to see him retaining his character and not going face mode.
 

eldoon

Member
Why does Storm need to win the title to get his revenge on Bobby Roode? Don't see how that's essential.
Also, don't see why Aries HAS to be a short-term transitional champion.

Because storm was robbed of the belt twice by Roode.
beating him in a singles match would be next to useless , even beating him to a bloody pulp means nothing if he doesnt win the belt back.
 
Clearly you forgot that Punk's championship reign last year lasted LESS than a month before Del Rio cashed in a briefcase on him. And most of that month he was CO-champ with Cena.

Are you posting from the future?

30 minutes into his title run post-MITB Punk was much better than Aries has been so far.
 
a guy who hold the belt for damn near an year loses it in a 3 week feud to someone who's obviously going to drop it in 1-2months

that's just getting 1 years worth of scripts and shredding it

Well maybe that's not the plan anymore hmm? Austin Aries has leapfrogged Storm so you go with him now and build a new storyline around it. You don't keep him on the backburner with blinders on to what's happening around you.
 

UberTag

Member
Time for the IWC to mark out again:

PWInsider.com has confirmed that WWE has signed British star PAC, who had been working for Dragon Gate in Japan and DGUSA here in the States. Billed as the "Man that Gravity Forgot", he is a hell of a flier. This is a great signing.
The WWE sure is signing a lot of indy talent considering they don't plan on putting anyone over Cena, Cena Lite, Triple H, Triple H's workout buddies or Vince's steroid-powered muscle-bound freaks.

At least Ziggles will have new blood to sell offense for.
 
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