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July Wrasslin |OT| The Game, The Kane, The Pain, and The Insane (AJ)

Soulplaya I'll pretend to like Kane and change my avatar to a Kane theme for a month if you can go one week without mentioning him (or Glenn Jacobs etc.)
 

Sokantish

Member
The games he listed with Kane all have huge complaints from people.

Madden is the same every year
Burnout is a pretty much dead series now
Dead Space 3 is already being hated because they're changing it to be more like Gears of War
Mirrors Edge... I don't think we'll ever get a sequel.

What does it all mean for Kane?! I think its saying he's the same every year even though he's pretty much dead, and hated because he changed his look to that new dumb mask. Also he loves free running, and trying to steal information from evil governments or something
 
Shit's getting real gentlemen:

PWInsider.com has confirmed that WWE has signed British star PAC, who had been working for Dragon Gate in Japan and DGUSA here in the States. Billed as the "Man that Gravity Forgot", he is a hell of a flier. This is a great signing.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
Soulplaya I'll pretend to like Kane and change my avatar to a Kane theme for a month if you can go one week without mentioning him (or Glenn Jacobs etc.)
Wait, so if I don't mention Kane or Glenn Jacobs, you will "pretend (you know you love him, stop fronting!)" and carry a Kane avatar (a nice one!) for a month? Would you still post as often as you do now, or are you planning on going on vacation soon?
 
Soulplaya I'll pretend to like Kane and change my avatar to a Kane theme for a month if you can go one week without mentioning him (or Glenn Jacobs etc.)

Perspicacity, if you promise to only post about televised wrestling and wear an avatar of an established TV pro wrestler for one month, I won't disparage fly-by-night, internet wrestling feds for 2 days.
 
Wait, so if I don't mention Kane or Glenn Jacobs, you will "pretend (you know you love him, stop fronting!)" and carry a Kane avatar (a nice one!) for a month? Would you still post as often as you do now, or are you planning on going on vacation soon?

I don't have any vacation coming up, I'll be traveling to the states briefly towards the end of the month but it will be a Wed/Thurs deal and that's when Kane activity is at it's lowest point through the week.
I don't know what a "nice" Kane avatar is, but I'll let you give me a selection and I reserve veto power.

Perspicacity, if you promise to only post about televised wrestling and wear an avatar of an established TV pro wrestler for one month, I won't disparage fly-by-night, internet wrestling feds for 2 days.

Tempting, but I'm going to be seeing STAMPEDE EXTREME WRESTLING at some point this week, so I need to have the ability to talk about how awful Teddy Hart is at everything.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
I don't have any vacation coming up, I'll be traveling to the states briefly towards the end of the month but it will be a Wed/Thurs deal and that's when Kane activity is at it's lowest point through the week.
I don't know what a "nice" Kane avatar is, but I'll let you give me a selection and I reserve veto power.
Make it this one.
tumblr_m4hrrethag1qm5r8ho1_500.jpg
, but with a focus on the head, cause I want people to know who it is, lol.

OK, so the deal is that you have to "pretend" to like the WWE's Kane (real name, Glenn Jacobs), and will sport a Kane avatar for a month. Also, you have to post as often as you do now, and YOU MUST MENTION WWE's KANE. Don't just ignore him, lol.

I cannot mention Kane, Glenn Jacobs, or any of Glenn's other gimmicks for one week. No, I won't be clever and try to mention anyone else named Kane. I, however, do reserve the right to still be annoying, by talking about any other wrestler (posting their matches, pics, gifs, etc.) during this time period. Understood?
 
Make it this one. http://static.tumblr.com/bejoihv/A9Om4wu62/tumblr_m4hrrethag1qm5r8ho1_500.jpg[IMG], but with a focus on the head, cause I want people to know who it is, lol.

OK, so the deal is that you have to "pretend" to like the WWE's Kane (real name, Glenn Jacobs), and will sport a Kane avatar for a month. Also, you have to post as often as you do now, and YOU MUST MENTION WWE's KANE. Don't just ignore him, lol.

I cannot mention Kane, Glenn Jacobs, or any of Glenn's other gimmicks for one week. No, I won't be clever and try to mention anyone else named Kane. I, however, do reserve the right to still be annoying, by talking about any other wrestler (posting their matches, pics, gifs, etc.) during this time period. Understood?[/QUOTE]

I smell a twist. Has SoulPlaya found a loophole?
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
OK, I'm going to sleep, but the start of this will be whenever Persp gets the Kane avatar, and makes his first post mentioning Kane (no, not all of his posts have to be about Kane, but I want it to be often, and it better be positive!).

Until then, I'll disable my avatar.
 
Make it this one. http://static.tumblr.com/bejoihv/A9Om4wu62/tumblr_m4hrrethag1qm5r8ho1_500.jpg[IMG], but with a focus on the head, cause I want people to know who it is, lol.

OK, so the deal is that you have to "pretend" to like the WWE's Kane (real name, Glenn Jacobs), and will sport a Kane avatar for a month. Also, you have to post as often as you do now, and YOU MUST MENTION WWE's KANE. Don't just ignore him, lol.

I cannot mention Kane, Glenn Jacobs, or any of Glenn's other gimmicks for one week. No, I won't be clever and try to mention anyone else named Kane. I, however, do reserve the right to still be annoying, by talking about any other wrestler (posting their matches, pics, gifs, etc.) during this time period. Understood?[/QUOTE]

I did still want veto power and I don't like that picture, as I prefer to harken back to Kane's phenomenal tag team run alongside his equally talented partner the Hurricane. If this is unacceptable then contact me by PM and we can arrange a different avatar.

Let's relive one of their classic moments: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbm4bjBDCr8&feature=related[/url] Can you guys imagine if the wheel went one space further and Kane in a bra and panties match, that would be HI-LARIOUS!
 
Those fake British wrestler names were killing me, I can't decide on a favourite.
Soulplaya you filthy traitor, looks like i'm going to have to pal up with my new Kane buddy Perspicacity.

So that TNA ppv sounds good, maybe i'll watch it.....on Wednesday, cheers Challenge.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I hope TNA will see an uprise in their ratings. They've been doing so well the past two months. It's amazing, if they can slowly build their ratings up and get to Smackdown-level, WWE will be forced to take notice and make some much needed changes to their product.

Plus, I'm fucking enjoying Impact and their PPV's, and that's after giving up on the product for a year or so until two months ago. Impressive how they turned things around. Well done TNA!
 
Those fake British wrestler names were killing me, I can't decide on a favourite.

I agree and I need to collect them so that Morning WrestleGAF can bask in the glory of the WWE naming system.

British WWE Wrestlers said:
Cricket McTea
Fishy McChipper
Lord Crumpet "Bad Teeth" McQueen
Winston McFuddlesmith
Redbooth "Left Side Drive" Manchester
"Big" Ben Liverpool
Ringo Unionjack
Liam Albarn.
Prince William "The Beatle" Earl Grey
Jarvis Yorke
Issac "Silent Genius" Chaplin
Sir Ian Godfrey
Oliver Thatcher
Howard "Deep Fried Mars Bar" Tuppence
Albert "The Mancunian Mauler" Gascoigne
Frank "The Coal Miner" Thatcher
Ronald "The Royal" Rosekington
Windsor Stonehenge

I am using one or more of these as an alias.
 

sajj316

Member
I like that Aries is champ. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Bobby Rooooooode but the title picture needed some changes. The only other time I was invested in the TNA product was after the Roode/Storm promo leading to the title match.
 

Striker

Member
Glad Aries won. Didn't get to see it but I'll have to check out Impact to see how it unravels.

As for Pac supposedly signing (denial or not), I'm with Net Wrecker on not getting excited. I mean, they have done nothing with Del Rio, Sin Cara, and countless other talented guys who have flourished elsewhere and come to WWE to get badly booked and/or their movesets neutered to a tee.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I maintain that the guys themselves are responsible for getting themselves over. Del Rio didn't get over even though he had plenty of opportunity. Sin Cara botched many of his fights, got suspended, was replaced by a better Sin Cara and then got injured for a long time.

Sure, you can blame WWE Creative for all their woes, but that still seems unfair to me. You have to work and adapt what they give you to your advantage. Other people in the company managed to do it and get themselves over, so Del Rio and Sin Cara could do it too.

To be fair, Del Rio still has a shot, he did well on Smackdown last week, first time in a long time I enjoyed his shtick.
 

Striker

Member
Del Rio was rolling nice before and finally getting the Rumble win. He fought Edge at Mania, lost but that was okay because that was Edge's final match. But tell me, please, what in the hell have they done with him since? Yeah, he won a MitB after doing NOTHING between April and July. He cashed in, had Cena make god-awful fucking jokes, and got buried by him. What has he done since? That has nothing to do with being over, a draw, nothing. It's terrible booking at its finest. This goes with a LOT of guys. Bourne, Ziggler, Rhodes, Kofi, Swagger, etc. They've been in the SAME position more or less since 2008-2009 (or whenever they've arrived).

Sin Cara got his moveset neutered. It's plain as day.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Del Rio was rolling nice before and finally getting the Rumble win. He fought Edge at Mania, lost but that was okay because that was Edge's final match. But tell me, please, what in the hell have they done with him since? Yeah, he won a MitB after doing NOTHING between April and July. He cashed in, had Cena make god-awful fucking jokes, and got buried by him. What has he done since? That has nothing to do with being over, a draw, nothing. It's terrible booking at its finest. This goes with a LOT of guys. Bourne, Ziggler, Rhodes, Kofi, Swagger, etc. They've been in the SAME position more or less since 2008-2009 (or whenever they've arrived).

Sin Cara got his moveset neutered. It's plain as day.

"Why do I watch this shit?" is what I ask myself.
 

hertog

Member
OMG Destination X was awesome.

If TNA keeps this up, I can finally stop watching the WWE. If only Bryan, Jericho, Punk and Kane weren't on WWE television. Those 4 are the only ones I care about... and Cena/Sheamus/Orton/HHH/Big Show will squash them over and over again :(
 

Aiii

So not worth it
So what has Alberto Del Rio done in the past year to get over with the crowd? Did he do something special with his promo's perhaps? Did he manage to get the crowd to boo him out of the building? Sin Cara can't talk on the mic, and botches all his moves, of course nobody's gonna pay to watch the guy.

And what about Swagger, Kofi and Bourne? Everytime any of them gets a mic people fall asleep. Might not be what you want to hear, but 80% of getting over is working a mic and getting the crowd behind you (either as a face or as a heel).

AJ got more over then any of them in 3 months time, is that really only due to WWE Creative giving her something to do? Bryan got over despite getting buried (burried worse then anyone over the past year, minus Zack Ryder maybe, mind you) and is selling out his merchandise based on his work alone.

Ziggler and Cody are future main-eventers, I don't even for a second worry about them. Ziggler could be a little less giving in the ring maybe when setting up his matches. His overselling might be hurting him a bit.

Seriously though, I know WWE deserves blame in some cases for guys not getting over. But Del Rio has been giving a ton of main event spots over the past year and the crowd just doesn't react to the guy. He needs to work on that.
 

Striker

Member
You completely disregard the point on Del Rio and Sin Cara. Major stars elsewhere, but once they're in the hands of the WWE booking crew, they're what they are now. That's just a mere coincidence? Look how MVP felt when he was here, and now he's wrestling in Japan and doing wonderful for himself, and is happy with what he's doing. And he's not a rarity for this case.

Del Rio has been given "main event spots", like the cash in and feud with Cena, which made him look like a loser. How is ADR suppose to look good on that afterwards?

And "being over", for fuck's sake. Miz was over, but you know what, I didn't want to see him wrestle. Nobody did. Del Rio is one of the better wrestlers in the company, but fact is, booking for him since April 2011 has been absolutely terrible. I haven't seen you list one simple reason why that is wrong of me to say. No strong feuds to make him look like a big time heel, nothing.

Sin Cara, again, they killed his moveset. Everything is predictable and has a formula feel to it. Go watch his matches before he came in.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
My points is, once again, 80% of getting over in the US is working a mic. It's that simple. That is the reason Del Rio didn't get over, that is the reason Sin Cara will never get over.

US public could give two shits about great wrestling, they want good mic workers. Might not be why you watch wrestling, but it is why most of the public watches this stuff. So yeah, in the indie scene, where people love wrestling, they get over based on their matches. In Japan they fucking respect the hell out of you when you have 30 minutes of fucking awesomeness in the ring.

In the US? Not so much. Ratings tell the whole story. Can you blame WWE for following the needs of their audience?
 
OMG Destination X was awesome.

If TNA keeps this up, I can finally stop watching the WWE. If only Bryan, Jericho, Punk and Kane weren't on WWE television. Those 4 are the only ones I care about... and Cena/Sheamus/Orton/HHH/Big Show will squash them over and over again :(

TNA is keeping this up. You WWE people need to jump ship. The WWE is falling apart and getting worse every week, and TNA is hungry and knows what it wants. It's no contest. Leave the make-a-wish fans and "rebels" that like CM Punk behind, and get behind a real product.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
TNA is keeping this up. You WWE people need to jump ship. The WWE is falling apart and getting worse every week, and TNA is hungry and knows what it wants. It's no contest. Leave the make-a-wish fans and "rebels" that like CM Punk behind, and get behind a real product.

You must not have been following TNA for that long. Give it half a year more before reaching this conclusion.
 

Striker

Member
Sin Cara's problem isn't where he's listed on the card. He is perfectly fine in the midcard/cruiserweight role. My issue is him getting his moveset blasted up and down and his matches getting pretty predictable - that's WWE's fault, plain and simple.

I wouldn't put it past them to do it to more guys; they've done it to countless others in the past, namely MVP. That's why I rather them not sign these guys, and just build some up in FCW/NXT. Gotta hope they don't screw up Ambrose, because that's a guy who's bound to be an amazing heel if booked properly.
 
Sin Cara's problem isn't where he's listed on the card. He is perfectly fine in the midcard/cruiserweight role. My issue is him getting his moveset blasted up and down and his matches getting pretty predictable - that's WWE's fault, plain and simple.

I wouldn't put it past them to do it to more guys; they've done it to countless others in the past, namely MVP. That's why I rather them not sign these guys, and just build some up in FCW/NXT. Gotta hope they don't screw up Ambrose, because that's a guy who's bound to be an amazing heel if booked properly.

Agreed. Sin Cara has been a bust on multiple levels though. Talk about a square peg trying to fit into a round hole. Horrible past year or so from Sin Cara. But he sells them shirts.
 
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