I don't think even Goldberg would deny that
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I don't think even Goldberg would deny that
sf2fanatic
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A lot more wrestlers should go that route too.
The video has 254,000 views and if they get 5 percent of those people to buy the show they would consider that a huge success. Not going to happen though.
newdayrocks
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Agreed completely. Alternately, saw X-Men Apocalypse last night, and enjoyed it way more than CW.
UberTag
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That's what Vince does, though... and has always done. Instead of taking something like "the end of the streak", a clean feud win over the likes of Roman or Cena or a year-long undefeated streak for Rusev and giving them to someone who would actually benefit a hell of a lot from having them to effectively "make them" as Superstars, he instead gives them to folks who've already been chosen and decreed as superstars. The super-protected. The Cenas and Lesnars and Romans of the world.
The people who would actually benefit from something exciting or a meaningful win are instead granted "one not-really-clean win over Cena before he beats them 5 more times" or "winning the Andre the Giant battle royal" or "here's the Intercontinental title, now let me bury you repeatedly".
The reality is that Vince is "not interested" in building up new talent unless it's to feed people he's already made and to reinforce that "he was right" to have made them.
You're also 100% correct that people shouldn't be taking Owens winning the Money in the Bank briefcase as a done deal... even if it's the correct choice. Nobody had Sheamus winning last year and we saw how that went down. When in doubt, put the odds on the guy that is already getting paid the most money in the match. That's probably Del Rio.
It's almost like I have a divine mission of supporting the underdog in all walks of life.
I can appreciate that. Tell me more.
Not necessarily in response to Menome, but certainly off-topic and random: Should I read The Stand and/or Blood Meridian?
Professor Beef
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With how Heyman ran ECW, he barely owned it.
avengers23
Banned
Definitively yes on Blood Meridian.
Bluekaveli
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Maybe you'd have less mark who do business.
So money was the issue?
How many buys did the invasion ppv do again? Without any of the wcw superstars?
How many buys would Goldberg vs Austin at mania 18 have done? As Goldberg completely dominates everyone in his path for a straight year?
Vince could have easily matched their contracts, brought those fuckers in and had them paid after one big ppv buyrate
Fuckin hell
Arrowgigantic
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And here we observe the style of busking known as "Street Zigglering"
I'm pretty sure Vince would have had an onslaught of WWF guys asking for their payday if word got out that the WCW guys got to keep their WCW paydays.
Vince should have straight up not ran the invasion angle until the Goldbergs and Hogans contracts ran out.
RIP shoulders
Lightning Count
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In my experience you can usually tell who is out to make a quick buck apart from those who genuinely love wrestling.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Well, Vince's goal was to bury all the WCW talent, so bringing in guys that his fans might cheer for wasn't something he was likely all that interested in to begin with.
Nocturnowl
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I barely even play online FPS and this stuff is hooked into me reeaaal good.
I can't help but think if you're in something for the money and you chose years of life shortening agony as your choice then maybe you weren't the sharpest tool in the shed.
The show did 770,000 buys without the real big stars and bad build.
The problem was that Vince didn't want to upset the locker room and pay these guys huge amounts of money to give up their current deals and come to the WWE.
Back then it was not guys playing videogames and getting along. It was paranoia and fighting over keeping your spot. So when the WCW guys came in the WWE roster crapped on them and talked behind there back,
The angle had so much going against it to be a true success.
UberTag
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He had his hands full just trying to quell the masses chanting for Rob Van Dam seemingly non-stop for a number of months.
Nocturnowl
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That one episode of Smackdown around No Mercy 2001 where he came out doing the RVD thumbs taunt to try and tease some dissension within the alliance probably killed him as much as when he had to do those yes chants.
Bluekaveli
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I think it's hard to cheer against rvd lol. I think the only time they booed him heavily is when Steph walked out to be revealed as ECW owner.
E&C helping Jeff Hardy win? You know it's real.
Tom Nook
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avengers23
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Eita vs. Jimmy Susumu is not marred by any audio or video sync problems, and it's a hell of a match full of great babyface fire from Eita and destructive offense from Susumu. Here's a taste:
I'll look into it, I suppose. I thought The Road was really good.
Hyped to catch up on all the DG action. Waiting till my Chromecast gets delivered before I start watching again though, I wanna laze out on the couch instead of cooped up at the computer screen. Prolly gonna re-watch the whole 5/25 show from AJPW like that as well.
Nope. This one isn't either. Speed is Dragon Gate's gimmick.
My favourite film is Flash Gordon, not exactly a blockbuster or a indie thinkpiece.
My favourite album is Radiohead's Amnesiac, one of the middling-regarded albums in their discography.
My favourite games of the past three years have been Antichamber, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter and Life Is Strange.
When everyone I knew was playing Magic The Gathering, I was playing the VS System card game instead and attending UK tournaments with only five attendees.
My favourite character on the Tekken roster has only had three appearances, two of which are non-canon: Kunimitsu.
My favourite book is one that's been completely overshadowed by the film adaptation and 80s cheese nostalgia: The Neverending Story.
There's more, but it's late.
Ninja Scooter
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so basically like early 90s WWF?
You're a cool guy, Menome, but c'mon... Kid A, man.
sf2fanatic
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But wouldn't that be considered the ideal heel. Comes out during a promo and says "Thank you fools for paying my salary!!"
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
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This picture looks like its 15 years old unless Dixie is way better looking than I remember.
Bluekaveli
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Hollywood Rock and Spotlight Batista were kinda like that.
sf2fanatic
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Rock doesn't count. He wasn't a heel. Even if he tried
avengers23
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Cody Rhodes is all but confirmed as the first entrant in BOLA 2016.
can't wait to watch it in March of 2017 or whenever it'll be viewable to the wider public
slightconfuse
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Aeternus Malum
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Just saw Paige and Del Rio walk in the arena.
She's so much sexier and smaller up close
She's so much sexier and smaller up close
Bluekaveli
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When you think about it, Austin and Rock were heels considering how they treated and talked to their opponents.
Brock Lesnar interview with Paul Heyman in 10 minutes:
https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle/status/739869047957901313
https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle/status/739869047957901313
UberTag
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Perhaps Paige could take on a new duty of "ceremonial holder of the briefcase" for Del Rio after Money in the Bank. It's not like she's doing much else right now.
Bluekaveli
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Booker T's theme sounds like some 90s house music.
Luschient
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Brock Lesnar says he arm-wrestled Vince McMahon for a chance to fight at UFC 200
Hell, Vince probably thought he had a legit shot at winning.
Hell, Vince probably thought he had a legit shot at winning.
slightconfuse
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From PWG
newdayrocks
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I can imagine that happening.
I wonder if Brock used Sable to win as Vince did to beat Mr. America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqqfMaxU0f8
avengers23
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Rovert's line on Twitter summed it up:
rovert said:
http://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/739958767505133568