Kanye goes on epic, disjointed rant on Ellen show

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What do you do when no one's watching?

"Smile."

Kanye is great, I don't care what people say. And his rant is not as incomprehensible as they make it seem.
 

rtcn63

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This one also works

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JeremyEtcetera

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Please, he has a drug problem, albeit possibly prescription meds. Early Kanye was nowhere near this bad.

People will continue to chalk it up to this or call him crazy because of how he acts. It's understandable. I'm just basing what I see on past facts. The 'Early Kanye' people praise is mainly his music, not the person. Seriously, go listen to interviews about him, listen to what Dave Chappelle said about him when he met him right after College Dropout hit. It's the same dude.
 

Fonz72

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No, that's not it. He isn't good at articulating his points of view. He comes really close to saying something truly great, but it's being said in not the right order. I've seen this happen to him before in interviews. He has the passion but constantly gets flustered and trips over himself when talking.

Basically what I'm saying is that if this were WWE and he were Brock Lesnar, he needs a Paul Heyman to speak for him. He needs someone to convey his thoughts and actions to the public and refuses to admit it. So he comes off as childish and and rant-ish when he wants to spread a good message.

Edit: If you ever heard Timbaland or Jay Z talk about him in older interviews, they said he was like this even during his producing years. Passionate but not well spoken.

The Edit here sums it up well. I went in expecting cringe, but I could really see where he was trying to go. Some pretty good real talk.
 

Bronx-Man

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See, before I let you go
One last thing I need to let you know
You ain't never seen nothing crazier than
This nigga when he off his Lexapro


But seriously, this isn't even a "rant". It's just Kanye rambling about different shit he's thinking about off the top of his head.
 

Chabbles

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Kanye - "I have ideas that could make the human race's existence within our hundred years better, period"

Ellen - "Just give me one example and somebody might give you the money"

5 minute rant begins and not one single example. dude is nuts
 

Ryck

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Hmmm maybe I'm nuts but some of what he was saying kinda made sense.

(If I try to look at it from his perspective)
 
Kanye - "I have ideas that could make the human race's existence within our hundred years better, period"

Ellen - "Just give me one example and somebody might give you the money"

5 minute rant begins and not one single example. dude is nuts
He spoke about trying to connect with Payless so poorer kids could have cool looking clothes and not get bullied.
 
I'd love to see you guys go through the public identify crisis that Kanye has gone through in front of the world and try to stay true to yourself on Ellen.
 
What the fuck. This man is delusional.

I've been wondering why the world didn't realize this since 2008

Kanye is the reason Pearl Jam cut their set short at Bonnaroo 2008... he moved his fucking set to 2AM out of the blue and didn't even end up taking the stage till 5AM.

Fuck that guy.
 

sans_pants

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Labeling every passionate speech Kanye gives as a "rant" effectively dismisses him and his arguments. In this case he seemed to be making a pretty solid argument about validation. It's not about giving him awards. It's about recognizing the brilliance of an individual's art. And when you basically dismiss the art of a large group of people, specifically black people, you're silencing them. You're telling people they're only good enough to create shit that we steal later down the road and play off as our own.

We're talking about people who have been placed in an art plantation. And folks have the audacity to laugh or criticize Kanye for wanting to escape it.

I'm a fan of his and I get where he's going with this but this is pretty ranty and hard to follow if you don't know wtf hes talking about


also I think it's great that he wants to help people, but his plan is absurd. When he started up that school or whatever it was he wanted to help the world through design and said fuck science and education and stuff like that. I could be misinterpreting that because he's not very clear about anything
 

Ryck

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I'd love to see you guys go through the public identify crisis that Kanye has gone through in front of the world and try to stay true to yourself on Ellen.
Yeah man for real, he isn't really living any kind of normal life and how he sees things and expresses himself is going to be altered and distoreted as a result.
 

213372bu

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Cause his clothing line is more important than climate change. The dude needs help.

He said people are dismissing things like fashion as if it's extraneous and then he goes on to say how the climate of schools leads to bullying based on appearances.

He then went on to say he wanted to try something with Payless to help change how kids bully others over wearing discount clothing.

At that time it legitimately has an impact on low-income students and can set how they are treated throughout school.
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Kids you laughed at because they wore Sketchers or Payless shoes were in that position because they were already living in a rough state.

Then they have to deal with intense social pressure/become outcasts to those with higher incomes.
I've been wondering why the world didn't realize this since 2008

Kanye is the reason Pearl Jam cut their set short at Bonnaroo 2008... he moved his fucking set to 2AM out of the blue and didn't even end up taking the stage till 5AM.

Fuck that guy.
Seriously?
 

Guess Who

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I really appreciate that Kanye wears his heart on his sleeve and speaks his mind, but also, people ascribe way more genius to him than is actually there.
 

jett

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I see Kanye being Kanye.

This (insane) man is so incredibly and misguidedly full of himself it's actually kind of painful.
 

double jump

you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
Kanye should get a talk show that's just him doing or saying whatever for 30 minutes.

this was my first thought as well. I would watch every gawddamn day.

seriously though Kanye is saying some semi important shi. If he could focus on one subject at a time people would be able to digest his message.
 

Guess Who

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So vanity will save the world?

No, it'll just help stop kids from being bullied, which is a perfectly noble cause.

Kanye's totally right that classism among kids is a huge source of bullying -- I grew up going to a pretty poor school and this was a big reason they switched to enforcing a uniform and dress code, so that the poorer kids didn't get picked on for their clothes. Even then you could tell when a poorer kid was wearing hand-me-downs, or old stuff with stains. My mom personally helped buy clothes for poor kids and run donation drives and stuff to help stop this kind of shit.
 

213372bu

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So vanity will save the world?

No.

Preventing bullying of lower income students wearing "discount fashion" is what his point was.

And that little idea could affect lots of students, that to this day, get bullied for the same shit.

His point is that just because an idea isn't large at scale, doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
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People often overlook lots of variables that affect people on a personal level, and those smaller causes can make a bit of a difference.
 

Draper

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No.

Preventing bullying of lower income students wearing "discount fashion" is what his point was.

And that little idea could affect lots of students, that to this day, get bullied for the same shit.

His point is that just because an idea isn't large at scale, doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
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People often overlook lots of variables that affect people on a personal level, and those smaller causes can make a bit of a difference.

This being the same individual who has white t-shirts with insane price gouging.

He's designating style at a price.
 
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