Kanye goes on epic, disjointed rant on Ellen show

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Eos said:
That's my GOAT
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Not really familiar with Kanye (or his music) beyond a little bit of what I've read on GAF. Whenever I read about something he said it always came across as arrogant but watching him for the first time, I couldn't help but like him. I totally get what he's saying and can feel the passion behind the words but he just isn't that great at being articulate so it comes across as mad ramblings.
 
Elwood Blues said:
If hungry children had access to cheaper food they wouldn't be hungry anymore. Think about it in a 100 years.
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You see, he's a genius who can do a lot to help others, but he's not in the position to do so JUST yet, cause others are holding him back.

So for the time being, he has to push steeply priced items unfortunately.
 
The "rant" wasn't nearly as bad as I wasn't expecting. Kind of long and rather winding, but I wouldn't call it disjointed. It was kind of interesting, overall. However, the clip of the 5 Second game just made him look like a young child who was experiencing being in the spotlight for the first time, both in his behavior and his apparent level of intelligence.
 
praise yeezus

also “I’m sorry daytime television. I’m sorry for the realness.” is his best quote since cause my life is dope, and i do dope shit
 
kanye west the jim morrison of our era.

people will be wearing this man on t shirts years from now. playing his music in art dorms.

either you appreciate it now or hopefully live to understand it years from now.
 
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KANYE: That's how it feels, though. It's like the Pursuit of Happyness, it's like you're trying to sell this bone density machine, you know in that movie? I feel that if I had more resources, I could help more people. I have ideas that could make the human race's existence, within our hundred years, better. Period. Fuck the paparazzi, whatever perception you have of me, starting with the truth. Starting with what everyone's thinking! Start there, put some dope shit with it.

ELLEN: Well, I'm with you on --

KANYE: Ye is in the building! Throw your motherfucking hands in the air right now! Put your hands in the air right now! Yeah?

ELLEN: I'm with you on the truth part. When you say "put some dope shit with it," just, give me one example of the ideas, so maybe someone watching will give you the money.

KANYE: Well, we're in a Renaissance period. We're in a place where people are multi-disciplined artists, like, Steve McQueen, who directed Twelve Years A Slave, he was considered to just be a photographer, and yet he won an Oscar, and that's in a place where people can only have one career, one profession throughout their entire life, so, the exact amount of emotion, and color palette, and sonics that I've put into my music, I put them into the shoes. And they worked!

You know, people never write "Kanye's pissing everybody off, Kanye's making someone mad," they try to position it in the media in a way that I'm like... whatever! Whatever your friends might say! Like, "You know I was talking to Kanye? How was he? Did he, like..." But I care about people! I care about -- my dad lived in homeless shelters less than five years ago! To find out he's a Psych major -- my mom was the first black female chair of the English department at Chicago State University. I was raised to do something, to make a difference.

You know, I didn't take the Oscars as a joke. It was funny, you know, the moment, like, all black actors can talk about the glass ceilings that we've dealt with in this town. And this is the moment: "You get your night! Go ahead! Chris Rock's gonna do it. Bam! Talk about how many times you've been blocked from being able to excel." I didn't take it as a joke! It ain't no joke, as Rakim said. It ain't no joke. I used to let the mic smoke. Now I slam it, and make sure it's broke.

That's what I was raised on: Rakim. Phife dawg. Hiphop. Expression. Hiphop. Started out in the park. Everybody trying to -- I don't give a fuck how much you sold if you playing on radio. Are you connecting? Picasso is dead. Steve Jobs is dead. Walt Disney is dead. Name somebody living that you can name in the same breath as them. Don't tell me about being likable. We got a hundred years here. We're one race. The human race, one civilization. We're a blip in the existence of the universe. And we're constantly trying to pull each other down, not doing things to try to help each other.

That's my point. It's like, I'm shaking talking about it. I know it's daytime TV, but I feel that I can make a difference while I'm here. I feel that I can make things better through my skillset. My skills: I'm an artist. Five years ago, art school, Ph. D. Art Institute of Chicago. I'm an artist. I have a condition called synesthesia where I can see sounds. I see them. Everything that I sonically make is a painting. I see it! I see the importance and the value of everyone being able to experience a more beautiful life.

When I make clothes, it's funny, because I would sit there with Obama and Leo's talking about the environment, and then I'm talking about clothes, and everyone looks at me like, "That's not an important issue," or something. But I remember going to school, like, in fifth grade, wanting to have a cool outfit. I called the head of Payless, and I'm like, "I want to work with you. I want to take all this information that I've learned by sitting at all these fashion shows and knocking at all these doors and buying all these expensive clothes, and I want to take away bullying."

Michael Jackson and Russell Simmons were the reasons that I was able to go so far in music. There was a time that Michael Jackson couldn't get his video on MTV because he was considered to be too "urban." The Michael Jackson. So I have to be the Michael Jackson of urban apparel so that I can break open the doors for everyone that will come after I'm gone. After I'm dead. After they call me "Whacko Kanye." Isn't that so funny? That people point fingers at the people who have influenced us the most? They talk shit about the people who cared the most? I'm sorry, daytime television. I'm sorry for the realness.
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he definitely had a point and a solid idea with the payless thing. that bullying to poor kids over that kind of stuff runs rampant from what i can remember
 
Discotheque said:
kanye west the jim morrison of our era.

people will be wearing this man on t shirts years from now. playing his music in art dorms.

either you appreciate it now or hopefully live to understand it years from now.
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It's already happening, my brother. I've been preaching the gospel since 808's.
 
Elwood Blues said:
If hungry children had access to cheaper food they wouldn't be hungry anymore. Think about it in a 100 years.
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NeoCTN said:
You see, he's a genius who can do a lot to help others, but he's not in the position to do so JUST yet, cause others are holding him back.

So for the time being, he has to push steeply priced items unfortunately.
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Dang, y'all the type of dudes he was referring to that are too busy bringing others down TBH.

Is the idea good or not?

Trying to make him look dumb by saying he could focus on feeding kids is just obscuring his idea that he actually wants to execute.

"He shouldn't even care about feeding kids, if Kanye really gave a shit, he would be focusing on figuring out interstellar travel because we as a species will eventually die out in our galaxy!"

Nevermind that all of that stuff is outside of his wheelhouse and not what he wants to do or is in the position to help with.
UrokeJoe said:
Kim K the internet star fucked this guy?
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Yeah, they are married and have two kids now.
 
The Driver said:
Dang, y'all the type of dudes he was referring to that are too busy bringing others down TBH.

Is the idea good or not?

Trying to make him look dumb by saying he could focus on feeding kids is just obscuring his idea that he actually wants to execute.

"He shouldn't even care about feeding kids, if Kanye really gave a shit, he would be focusing on figuring out interstellar travel because we as a species will eventually die out in our galaxy!"

Nevermind that all of that stuff is outside of his wheelhouse and not what he wants to do or is in the position to help with.

Yeah, they are married and have two kids now.
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I think the issue is that he speaks about changing the world and improving it, so much so that it would be felt for 100 years. With talk like that it sounds like he must really want to improve the world, yeah? Well, he's just mad that companies won't let him make shirts and give him more opportunities to release whatever he wants.

I don't hate the guy for thinking this is extremely important to him but he wants the world to feel his plight because rich dudes won't give another rich dude more money to sell 150 dollar shirts.
 
Holy shit, when she called him out on what one of his ideas was, I knew I was into something good.

I knew it was fucking gold the moment he went from talking about sonically, pallet... to his damn shoes.

KANYE, GOD OF GOING ON A TANGENT

Edit: 12:31 - Did he just make the connection between his fashion ventures and ending bullying?

Edit: 12:32 - I love how he just snaps out of his rant and smiles. I swear, it sometimes feels like he's just doing this to test people... see if they actually reaction.

Edit: 12:33 - Oh man, I'm watching random parts of this for a second time is just crazy. Oh shit, it's 12:34 now.
 
Hieberrr said:
Holy shit, when she called him out on what one of his ideas was, I knew I was into something good.

I knew it was fucking gold the moment he went from talking about sonically, pallet... to his damn shoes.

KANYE, GOD OF GOING ON A TANGENT
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You act like he's being interrogated.

You do know these shows all are prepped beforehand, and most of the time, have a "pre-show" just to go through the routine and make things good for the final show.
 
It strikes me, that he looks like a man carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders. Or some cocktail of drugs is really messing with his brain.

As long as he keeps making amazing music ill be here listening, as for the rest keep it real Kanye.
 
I recall seeing a post of 2pac going on some rant on MTV and someone saying.

"This is what kanye west thinks he sounds like when goes off"

I have to agree.

Kanye West needs some help.

Passionate but not articulate
 
IrishNinja said:
praise yeezus

also “I’m sorry daytime television. I’m sorry for the realness.” is his best quote since cause my life is dope, and i do dope shit
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My personal favorite is: "I may not be able to pull off long shirts and tight jeans but I'll settle for being the greatest artist for all time." That needs to be put on a fucking poster or cross-stiched or whatever. That's my goddamn motto for life now.

Systolique said:
Still honestly no idea how this guy has a fanbase for either his music or his persona, this furthers my confusion
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Insert "his music's good", "he's actually a good dude", "he's the defining artist of the 21st century" arguments ad nauseum, but why bother as they're not going to convince you.

MGrant said:
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There are a lot of salient points in that "rant." He's right when he talks about there not being any real definable geniuses in the modern age, how there's a desire to tear down instead of build up, and how clothes are an unnecessarily large part of determining one's status in school.

I think its demeaning to say Kanye has a mental illness just because he's passionate and spontaneous. The man just isn't articulate, but I'll be damned if he doesn't care. If he's doing with the Yeezys works i.e. making them popular and the shoe to own and then suddenly making them affordable, his genius will be certified.
 
Reading through this thread, it's a shame people are so quick to judge things. Feels like half the people in this thread didn't even try to understand what Kanye said, and just wanted to make an easy joke.
 
I was just wondering today whether his public persona is really him or if it's a kind of act. Like, does he talk this way when he's home with his family?
 
nomis said:
Precisely. Where the fuck all this hate comes from I'll never know. "He needs help" "He's autistic" "Is he on drugs" etc.
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Well if you're going to claim to speak for a generation, at least have the decency to practice articulating what you feel is so damn important it had to take up an entire segment on Ellen.
 
nomis said:
Precisely. Where the fuck all this hate comes from I'll never know. "He needs help" "He's autistic" "Is he on drugs" etc.
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He claims to have spent millions attempting to create clothing lines that benefit no-one, clearly has spent extravagant amounts of money on all kinds of luxuries but because he says a few words on TV about fashion and poor kids I'm supposed to think his heart is in the right place?

I don't think or have reason to believe he's a horrible guy but he is a self obsessed egomaniac. I have more reason to believe he rambled about fashion and kids so he can think he came up with a genius idea and endlessly pat himself on the back for it than I have to think it was because his heart is in the right place.

Bleach my asshole if I'm wrong.
 
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