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Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

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MMaRsu

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Discotheque said:
So happy Kanye threw Pusha T all over this album. Clipse is boss as fuck. Hell Hath No Fury, one of the best rap albums of teh decade.

True, Hell Hath No Fury is amazing yet I dislike Runaway.
 
Dang. I really like the record.

I hated most of the GF stuff for various reasons (beats too loud in the forefront of the mix, etc.) but that stuff has been addressed.

Good stuff. Also the clean version is mostly less annoying, so.... very happily surprised.
 
MMaRsu said:
Jesus christ dude is fucking overreacting. He is waaaay too emotional man. This isn't the sort of stuff you need to put on your twitter. I understand he's angry and feeling like shit but come on he must have some good friends he can confide in?

man it's his twitter, he can do what the fuck he feels with it imo. who died and made you twitter judge and jury.

Dreams-Visions said:
sure he would. you can be emotional, but know how the world works and be immune to little shit like this. he should have advisors who can prepare him for things like this.

and who are you?

i find it funny when people try to act like thier kanye's father or something. kanye will be kanye. this shouldnt be a surprise it should be accepted. anything else, and kanye wouldnt be kanye. period. and we wouldnt get the same kinda output that we get from him. It's just the way it is.

It's kinda like what havoc said. "people make mistakes but mistakes make people."
 

RJT

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I just heard Fergie on All of the Lights for the first time. WTFFFFFFFFFFF????????????????? What was Kanye thinking? I really needed an edited version to go on my iPod...
 

Recon

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I dont understand the love for the samples in Runaway, they come across as very annoying and out of place...Maybe its because i only had heard the version without for so long, but i just dont like it.
 
Fixed2BeBroken said:
and who are you?

i find it funny when people try to act like thier kanye's father or something

That's funny because I see a guy trying to act like he's kanye's sidekick. Don't act like you've never criticized a person on the internet.
 
Fixed2BeBroken said:
and who are you?
Hi, I'm Dreams-Visions. I'm someone as qualified as anyone to critique and make basic judgments on conduct of my fellow humans. who are you to make such retarded comments as "derp, nobody can haz an opinion because nothing can be wrong on da twittah!"

?

Are you 12?

The bottom line is he would greatly benefit from a PR team that can help prepare him for things like this. He should not be finding himself "surprised" when in the public because it hurts him and his image after a decade of dealing with the media. hell, he should know there is no true "love" or "hate" in entertainment; you're just the flavor of the month until someone else hotter comes along. and venting on twitter to millions of people (none of whom he would ever consider trusting) is juvenile attention-seeking at best.

sorry if that hurts. I appreciate the guy as much as anyone, which is why I'd even bother suggesting he should have a team to help him. If I disliked him, I'd encourage him to keep on doing exactly what he'd going. But I'd rather the man (he is a grown man, you know) simply learn some lessons and implement strategies to prevent these kinds of things from happening, rather than him getting more and more emotionally distraught, more standoff-ish, more sociopathic and full of anxiety...which is the path he's on right now. If you cared about the guy, you'd say the exact same fucking thing rather than defending his poor choices and lack of basic support systems.
 

Raw64life

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ReconYoda said:
Maybe its because i only had heard the version without for so long, but i just dont like it.

This is the main reason I avoided listening to all the different versions of songs he put out beforehand. I knew I'd probably get attached to one version and then be disappointed when that version wasn't the version on the album.
 

Foob

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just gave this a listen... i hadn't heard any of the songs besides power and the live performance of runway (which I hated) before today.

this album is so fucking good arghrhgh. i really enjoyed all of the lights, but at times i thought the production was a little over the top.. blame game i thought was excellent, though the chris rock thing at the end was a big wtf. anyway, i said that i hated the live version of runway, but hoooly shit i think it might be my favorite song on here (that or devil in a red dress); the beat is so fucking simple and catchy, and goddamn i love pusha t.

i just want the dirty version now so i dont feel like my mom gave this to me
 

MMaRsu

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Fixed2BeBroken said:
man it's his twitter, he can do what the fuck he feels with it imo. who died and made you twitter judge and jury.



and who are you?

i find it funny when people try to act like thier kanye's father or something. kanye will be kanye. this shouldnt be a surprise it should be accepted. anything else, and kanye wouldnt be kanye. period. and we wouldnt get the same kinda output that we get from him. It's just the way it is.

It's kinda like what havoc said. "people make mistakes but mistakes make people."

Ehm he's just embarrassing himself? I mean come on, dude is on his period or what?

I'm no twitter judge and jury I'm just saying what I think of his tweet.
 
Can't believe RZA shat the bed so hard on his verse. Nice one, dude. Only the biggest hip hop album in forever. Way to take advantage.

Anyway, I love the album. Some of Kanye's least imaginative but most interesting rapping. He's basically just working his shit out on the album in a vaguely 4/4 time. Production though, it's really unbelievable. At times it's a little too much (I feel like he spilled a bit too much goo over the end of "Lost In The World")

Overall, though, a pretty amazing record.
 

HiResDes

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All in all I really don't give a shit what he says on twitter, I was just playing devil's advocate.

You think its lyrically unimaginative? I don't think you're listening carefully enough.
 
HiResDes said:
All in all I really don't give a shit what he says on twitter, I was just playing devil's advocate.

You think its lyrically unimaginative? I don't think you're listening carefully enough.

He has good moments and then he has whole verses where he's just talking about an argument he had or dickpics he's sent.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Hi, I'm Dreams-Visions. I'm someone as qualified as anyone to critique and make basic judgments on conduct of my fellow humans. who are you to make such retarded comments as "derp, nobody can haz an opinion because nothing can be wrong on da twittah!"

?

Are you 12?

The bottom line is he would greatly benefit from a PR team that can help prepare him for things like this. He should not be finding himself "surprised" when in the public because it hurts him and his image after a decade of dealing with the media. hell, he should know there is no true "love" or "hate" in entertainment; you're just the flavor of the month until someone else hotter comes along. and venting on twitter to millions of people (none of whom he would ever consider trusting) is juvenile attention-seeking at best.

sorry if that hurts. I appreciate the guy as much as anyone, which is why I'd even bother suggesting he should have a team to help him. If I disliked him, I'd encourage him to keep on doing exactly what he'd going. But I'd rather the man (he is a grown man, you know) simply learn some lessons and implement strategies to prevent these kinds of things from happening, rather than him getting more and more emotionally distraught, more standoff-ish, more sociopathic and full of anxiety...which is the path he's on right now. If you cared about the guy, you'd say the exact same fucking thing rather than defending his poor choices and lack of basic support systems.

yea, I'm 12 cause apparently I don't truly care what some famous person says on his own social networking site. Oh no, he spazzed out! ZOMG, HOW DARE HE, HE SHOULDNT DO THAT, HE NEEDS TO HIRE A PR PERSON OMG.

seriously? I didn't say you couldn't have an opinion. The meaning of what I said is tottally different. And apparently, you are butthurt about this judging from your in-depth post. It's not that serious. get over yourself. :lol

you just come off as pretentious.


Discotheque said:
That's funny because I see a guy trying to act like he's kanye's sidekick. Don't act like you've never criticized a person on the internet.

Believe it or not, my post that you quoted is a criticism. The difference is, I didn't give it from the perspective of being in the clouds, or as if i was better/wiser than someone.
 
Kanye West Discusses Collaboration With Jay-Z

"This new music just beats everybody's ass," the emcee says. "Right now I'm maybe three, or five spots from the top — historically speaking — with Biggie, Jay, Eminem and Wayne.
I'm not saying I'm the best, I'm just saying it's a goal of mine, and anybody who tries to knock my goals can eat shit."

He's already begun work on Watch the Throne, a joint record with Jay-Z. "It's going to be way more awesome than My Dark Twisted Fantasy," West says. "My growth in music production and mixing is retarded."

I fucking love Kanye. :lol If only every other person was as motivated as him.
 
see5harp said:
Is it Justin Vernon or some studio R&B singer/musician?
No. It's a woman. Might be Fergie.
Not sure, but I like it a lot. Sounds like a black chick (that's-racist.gif).

Adds some great depth and build.

There are a couple of people layered in there though.
 

Foob

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BenjaminBirdie said:
Can't believe RZA shat the bed so hard on his verse. Nice one, dude. Only the biggest hip hop album in forever. Way to take advantage.

most disappointing thing on the entire album for me.. had been anticipating that song ever since I heard they'd be working together, and instead all i get is ridikalus....ridikalus...
 

Oozer3993

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see5harp said:
Is it Justin Vernon or some studio R&B singer/musician?

Alicia Keys and Elly Jackson of La Roux. Justin Vernon also recorded some backing vocals for the song, and I think I hear Tony Williams as well.
 

MMaRsu

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Expendable. said:
Kanye West Discusses Collaboration With Jay-Z





I fucking love Kanye. :lol If only every other person was as motivated as him.


"This new music just beats everybody's ass," the emcee says. "Right now I'm maybe three, or five spots from the top — historically speaking — with Biggie, Jay, Eminem and Wayne.

Goddamn what a pretentious asshole. Goddamn I love his music but what the fuck is dude even talking about. Eminem? Wayne? Jay?

Not even a mention of Pac? SMH.
 

btrick

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http://www.celebuzz.com/kanye-west-taylor-swift-porn-s272661/

Kanye West and Taylor Swift Porn Parody Coming Soon

Taylor Swift and Kanye West's epic feud will soon be spoofed by Vivid Entertainment as only they know how -- in porn.

Celebuzz spoke with Vivid's founder/co-chairman Steve Hirsch for the low down:

"We're always analyzing news stories for their movie potential," Hirsch said. "The Kanye/Taylor feud has high visibility, is filled with passion and is something we believe that fans of adult films would enjoy. We're reviewing script concepts and definitely want to include that famous moment at the VMA awards. We plan to go into production in the next two months."

Previously, Hirsch told Hollywood Life, "Of course, our take would be in parody form and could heat up the relationship between the two."

The specifics of the VMA moment's "re-creation" are still to be determined, as they're "not at that point yet."

In October, Vivid announced another parody based off the TLC show Sister Wives to much controversy.
:lol :lol :lol :lol
 
Foob said:
most disappointing thing on the entire album for me.. had been anticipating that song ever since I heard they'd be working together, and instead all i get is ridikalus....ridikalus...

Especially since everyone else on the record completely demolished their verses. Ghost, Jay-Z, everyone just really delivered.
 
Get Eminem off of that list. SMH.

"I am whatever you say I am and if I wasn't, then why would I say I am".
GTFO with that shit.

I dig his stuff, but I'll pass on a best ever list.

Not a big Jay fan either. Never listened to one of his songs and thought
"man that's some deep shit". Ever. All consumerism and celebrity, imo.

Just how I feel so you can flame me if ye' want to.
 

HiResDes

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Naw dude I agree...I'd probably put him in my top 20, but not my top five. Even if you're a huge Eminem fan after you listen to this album, I think you'd have to admit that Kanye has solidified a higher spot on the greatest ever list than Em...If you don't, then you must hate black people.
 
Doth a dirty version existith yet?

I like the clean on the whole but sometimes it is too much so I might have to create my own special blend.
 

MMaRsu

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Buckethead said:
Get Eminem off of that list. SMH.

"I am whatever you say I am and if I wasn't, then why would I say I am".
GTFO with that shit.

I dig his stuff, but I'll pass on a best ever list.

Not a big Jay fan either. Never listened to one of his songs and thought
"man that's some deep shit". Ever. All consumerism and celebrity, imo.

Just how I feel so you can flame me if ye' want to.

Well I certainly agree. Putting Em and Jay in a top 5 best mc's ever is a joke no matter what.
 
HiResDes said:
Naw dude I agree...I'd probably put him in my top 20, but not my top five. Even if you're a huge Eminem fan after you listen to this album, I think you'd have to admit that Kanye has solidified a higher spot on the greatest ever list than Em...If you don't, then you must hate black people.

LOL hell naw.

I think some of you guys are just on the pre-album release high. Lets see if you think this way months from now.

In terms of relevancy Kanye's much higher than Eminem right now. But this isn't MMLP, yeah commence the flaming.

And why does Buckethead have a problem with Jay Z and Eminem on that list but not Wayne? Are you serious? Call me when Lil Wayne makes a Reasonable Doubt.
 

HiResDes

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I didn't say it was...I'm talking about comparing a body of work. It's like you didn't even read what I posted :lol People get so hung up on MMLP that they don't realize that Eminem has been merely decent since its release...Even Em knows it and has admitted it.

For the record, I disagree with buckethead about Jay-Z, dude is definitely in the top five. It's not a joke. Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, and Vol. 1 are masterpieces...Fucking masterpieces. The Black Album is close too.
 

see5harp

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BenjaminBirdie said:
Especially since everyone else on the record completely demolished their verses. Ghost, Jay-Z, everyone just really delivered.

RZA is horrible rapper though. Ya'll remember "IT'S THE B THE O THE B THE B THE Y THE D THE I THE G THE T THE A THE L"
 

see5harp

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HiResDes said:
I didn't say it was...I'm talking about comparing a body of work. It's like you didn't even read what I posted :lol People get so hung up on MMLP that they don't realize that Eminem has been merely decent since its release...Even Em knows it and has admitted it.

For the record, I disagree with buckethead about Jay-Z, dude is definitely in the top five. It's not a joke. Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, and Vol. 1 are masterpieces...Fucking masterpieces. The Black Album is close too.

Agreed and agreed. I put both Jay and Wayne in my top 10. Jay is guaranteed top 5 status on both classic singles AND albums. The only other modern rap artist who comes close in that department is Kanye.
 

RJT

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Discotheque said:
And why does Buckethead have a problem with Jay Z and Eminem on that list but not Wayne? Are you serious? Call me when Lil Wayne makes a Reasonable Doubt.
Or an American Ganster. Really, if you listened to Pray and didn't think "man that's some deep shit", you're doing it wrong

as i head towards my home room I observe the rooms though needles on the ground
I hear a car go vrooom drug dealer in the BM with the top down
as the girls start to giggle I ask why you laugh they say "you too little"
one day you'll understand when you become a man 'bout things you have to get you
fast forward freeze frame on my pistol
fist full of dollars ignorance is so blissful
I didn't choose this life this life chose me
around here is the shit that you just do
I just left school, the same BM is pulled over by the boys dressed blue
they had they guns drawn screaming just move
unless there something else you suggest we can do
he made his way to the trunk, opened it like a huh
a treasure chest was removed
cops said he'll be back next month
what we call corrupt he called paying dues
now when the rules is blurred as they hears a what am I to do
but pray, pray the lord forgive me
pray guys goodbye for what I'm about go through
Pray
 

Ashhong

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From AllHipHop.com

I don’t know that Kanye West actually leaked his own record. I don’t think Kanye himself would actually do that, because he doesn't seem like the type. But there is a nefarious rumor that somebody close leaked the clean version to throw interference on the the main one when it leaks. I don't know, but I'm copping it!
 

MMaRsu

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see5harp said:
Agreed and agreed. I put both Jay and Wayne in my top 10. Jay is guaranteed top 5 status on both classic singles AND albums. The only other modern rap artist who comes close in that department is Kanye.

Wayne? Really? :\
 
MMaRsu said:
What kind of interference? That whole quote doesn't make sense...

I'm guessing just people who are just searching for the title in general will get the clean one more often than the explicit once it leaks.

I'm pretty sure the person who leaks the explicit one will name it as such though so the clean one wouldn't interfere with a god damn thing.
 

Ashhong

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Yea I find it hard to believe that they would leak it. Anyway, an admin on KTT said

Alright I'm just going to put this to rest.

I have a friend that has an official Promo from Def Jam. Explicit. And it's 100% identical to clean version. There is no changes. That's the final version.

Bout time someone shuts them up
 

see5harp

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MMaRsu said:
Wayne? Really? :\

Yeah, from Carter til now he's really become the most dynamic rapper for me. He sorta lost me after Carter III, but in the modern day there aren't too many guys fucking with him in terms of vocals. Wayne is easily in my top 10.
 
MMaRsu said:
What kind of interference? That whole quote doesn't make sense...
The only possible thing could be when the real thing leaks people accidentally keep grabbing the clean version I suppose.

Kind of like right before Feed The Animals came out I leaked my friend's new album (with his permission and he does similiar mash-up work as Girl Talk). I did it as a joke on a small forum and tagged it as the GT album. It blew up in a few hours and was a headline on Pitchfork the next day. When Animals actually did leak, many d/l'ed his cd accidentally.
 

enzo_gt

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mckmas8808 said:
Are you fucking kidding me? Geez Kanye fans are so weird. He has the most lopsided fans in the world.
Lord, Lord, Lord is the worst G.O.O.D. Friday song by a mile. It has some decent verses, but its too laid back for its own good. The song feels longer than the longest of G.O.O.D. Friday tracks. And Swizzy verse is the checkmate.

Buckethead said:
Get Eminem off of that list. SMH.

"I am whatever you say I am and if I wasn't, then why would I say I am".
GTFO with that shit.


I dig his stuff, but I'll pass on a best ever list.

Not a big Jay fan either. Never listened to one of his songs and thought
"man that's some deep shit". Ever. All consumerism and celebrity, imo.

Just how I feel so you can flame me if ye' want to.
This song was dope as fuck back in the day and still is. Way I Am has some crazy rhymes in it too, a really good song altogether.
see5harp said:
Yeah, from Carter til now he's really become the most dynamic rapper for me. He sorta lost me after Carter III, but in the modern day there aren't too many guys fucking with him in terms of vocals. Wayne is easily in my top 10.
I liked Weezy circa Dedications, Drought 3, Carter II kind of era. This day and age? He's getting so fucking lazy with his rhymes, and doesn't give jack shit anymore cause he knows his newfound pop centred fanbase will eat it up anything as good. Case and point? Bedrock.
 

Get'sMad

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enzo_gt said:
I liked Weezy circa Dedications, Drought 3, Carter II kind of era. This day and age? He's getting so fucking lazy with his rhymes, and doesn't give jack shit anymore cause he knows his newfound pop centred fanbase will eat it up anything as good. Case and point? Bedrock.

yeah I agree with this. He's been all downhill since Carter III
 
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