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[Unfriendly TimeTraveler]

Just watch their obnoxious trailer where they act like it's the ultimate revolution

Jesus what a egotistical group of people. Nothing but gigantic names in the music industry (and mostly not for their quality imo), it's like it's just a elitist group of artist trying to push something in the name of music (aka money to them at this point) while trying to push a mediocre product that was doomed from the start. Not to mention has been caught doing shady business practices to try to get people to use it.
This whole locking music exclusively to a paid subscription digital app is sad, don't care who does it, it should be shunned. Music is about expression and trying to say something, to unify people not to alienate them by starting to do stuff like this.

 

[Milly Osworth]

Lots of people in GAF, me included, enjoy his music a whole lot.

Fair enough, but jumping on every single thing this man does sounds a bit One Direction / Taylor Swift like.

 

[DataStream]

I can't imagine Def Jam is going along with this.

 

[kiguel182]

Well, I won't listen to it if that's the case then.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Are we sure this is Kanye and not some marketing guy ?

Nevertheless, this is gold.

 

[Tesseract]

Just watch their obnoxious trailer where they act like it's the ultimate revolution

rich awesome attractive people sicken me, creating air molecularly which suppresses ear holes of civilians' engrams. dianetics can overcome the subconscious obnoxion, civilian.

it's just woosh

they're basically doing what adam sandlers did

 

[Staccat0]

Jesus what a egotistical group of people. Nothing but gigantic names in the music industry (and mostly not for their quality imo), it's like it's just a elitist group of artist trying to push something in the name of music (aka money to them at this point) while trying to push a mediocre product that was doomed from the start. Not to mention has been caught doing shady business practices to try to get people to use it.
This whole locking music exclusively to a paid subscription digital app is sad, don't care who does it, it should be shunned. Music is about expression and trying to say something, to unify people not to alienate them by starting to do stuff like this.

This is a bizarre rant.

I don't/wont use Tidal, but I'm not gonna pretend to know how people should treat their own art - especially art I clearly have no interest in.

I mean fuck man, do you hate private art collections? You losing sleep over the millions of albums that already exist in forms you have absolutely no access to?

The music business is soooooo shitty and corrupt I can't imagine drawing the line here if I gave it more than 2 minutes of thought.

 

[Stinkles]

This is going to massively increase piracy.

 

[Staccat0]

This is going to massively increase piracy.

YUP. People were immediately giving it out like candy on Twitter.

 

[CloudWolf]

Are we witnessing Kanye's breakdown? He's being weirder than usual these past few days.

 

[Tesseract]

Are we witnessing Kanye's breakdown? He's being weirder than usual these past few days.

yiss

 

[Unfriendly TimeTraveler]

This is a bizarre rant.

I don't/wont use Tidal, but I'm not gonna pretend to know how people should treat their own art - especially art I clearly have no interest in.

I mean fuck man, do you hate private art collections? You losing sleep over the millions of albums that already exist in forms you have absolutely no access to?

The music business is soooooo shitty and corrupt I can't imagine drawing the line here if I gave it more than 2 minutes of thought.

Na because the right people treat their music the right way. While I'm fine with stuff being private this is putting a private section to an already private show so many barriers you don't even care if people see it or not if they don't pay up. The music industry isn't all bad and could be fixed by these exact people that are some of the biggest names in the industry right now but instead they are making it worse.

 

[Monochromaticx]

guess i will never listen to his overrated album then.

 

[sephi22]

Is TLOP just a Tidal advert then?
The haphazard release makes it seem like it

 

[nib95]

guess i will never listen to his overrated album then.

So you've preemptively decided it's overrated before you've even heard it? Lol.

 

[Staccat0]

Na because the right people treat their music the right way. While I'm fine with stuff being private this is putting a private section to an already private show so many barriers you don't even care if people see it or not if they don't pay up. The music industry isn't all bad and could be fixed by these exact people that are some of the biggest names in the industry right now but instead they are making it worse.

You should throw away your copy of Halo 5 if it bothers you that much.

I don't really see why you care ethically and honestly your explanation sounds like you don't fully understand what Tidal even is or how it works compared to other services.
*shrug* enjoy your righteous indignation I guess.

 

[Acorn]

God damn it

 

[leroidys]

Why does everyone hate Tidal so much? Just because of the cringy marketing? The price? Haven't heard anyone even mention the service.

 

[Eos]

Why does everyone hate Tidal so much? Just because of the cringy marketing? The price? Haven't heard anyone even mention the service.

First time using a music streaming service (signed up to listen to Ye's album) and I don't really have any complaints about Tidal. It works perfectly on all my devices.

 

[CloudWolf]

Why does everyone hate Tidal so much? Just because of the cringy marketing? The price? Haven't heard anyone even mention the service.

The fact that it's basically just a more pretentious and expensive version of Spotify, even though there's nothing there to justify the higher price point. The music quality isn't that different from what you get on Spotify Premium (unless you own very advanced headphones, which most normal people don't).

 

[Surface of Me]

Why does everyone hate Tidal so much? Just because of the cringy marketing? The price? Haven't heard anyone even mention the service.

Its the same with people used to Netflix not signing up to Hulu or people used to Steam not using other services. Im so used to Spotify Im not gonna switch over for one album and I dont feel like paying for more than one music service. It's simple capitalism.

 

[E-phonk]

The fact that it's basically just a more pretentious and expensive version of Spotify, even though there's nothing there to justify the higher price point. The music quality isn't that different from what you get on Spotify Premium.

Spotify is known to have a terrible business model for artists though, and we know in what way it fucks artists over because of the sony leak:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/19/8621581/sony-music-spotify-contract

 

[Professor Beef]

Why does everyone hate Tidal so much? Just because of the cringy marketing? The price? Haven't heard anyone even mention the service.

They entered late into a streaming service with a higher price than the competition, and tried to make it seem like they were the "little guy" fighting "the man" with very terrible marketing. It ended up backfiring completely; anybody with a working brain could see right through their bullshit campaign, and the exclusive that they were pitching (higher quality audio) isn't really noticeable to the general public.

Bad first impressions can last a lifetime (hello there, XBone), and they're now trying to play catchup with everyone else. Tidal probably has a very good service (I wouldn't know, I don't use it), but they did a TON of damage to themselves in the beginning.

 

[CloudWolf]

Spotify is known to have a terrible business model for artists though, and we know in what way it fucks artists over because of the sony leak:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/19/8621581/sony-music-spotify-contract

Definitely true and it's one of the reasons why I'm personally not a big fan of Spotify and it's the main thing Tidal has over Spotify (for now), but most people don't care about that. They just want to listen to music and Tidal will lose that battle every time. The media campaigns and stuff like this don't help it either, it really creates the feeling that Tidal is just a way for the musical elite to assert their superiority.

 

[The Mule]

Yeah, ok, I will sign up to Tidal because I can't get your album anywhere else on the internet...

Don't force me to consume your product from a particular source. Just make it available everywhere, otherwise I will find other means to get what I want.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Yeah, ok, I will sign up to Tidal because I can't get your album anywhere else on the internet...

Don't force me to consume your product from a particular source. Just make it available everywhere, otherwise I will find other means to get what I want.

While I think having it exclusive to Tidal is bad, that does not excuse piracy. If a game doesn't appear on Steam, but is exclusive to Origin, would you pirate it also?

You are not being forced, you just want to listen to it. You could also chose not to listen to it (as I am doing, because I don't feel like signing up to another music service).

 

[Surface of Me]

While I think having it exclusive to Tidal is bad, that does not excuse piracy. If a game doesn't appear on Steam, but is exclusive to Origin, would you pirate it also?

You are not being forced, you just want to listen to it. You could also chose not to listen to it (as I am doing, because I don't feel like signing up to another music service).

To the first part of your post, the F2P Halo in Russia really showed how gamers feel about entitlement.

 

[Unfriendly TimeTraveler]

You should throw away your copy of Halo 5 if it bothers you that much.

I don't really see why you care ethically and honestly your explanation sounds like you don't fully understand what Tidal even is or how it works compared to other services.
*shrug* enjoy your righteous indignation I guess.

oddly enough I enjoy halo 5 a lot so don't understand where that comes from and way to be off topic.
dont really see what tidal is doing all that differently from other service rather than higher quality of music (but it comes with a price) it's reason to exist is almost unjustified. It's just being lead by some of the biggest names in the industry and that's not much of a good thing. Not like they understand what everybody wants only people like them, other really big names. Notice all the artist shown in that commercial see any smaller artist?

Edit: also I care ethnically because I care about music and don't want it to all become something people put out just to make money.

 

[Professor Beef]

While I think having it exclusive to Tidal is bad, that does not excuse piracy. If a game doesn't appear on Steam, but is exclusive to Origin, would you pirate it also?

You are not being forced, you just want to listen to it. You could also chose not to listen to it (as I am doing, because I don't feel like signing up to another music service).

Bear in mind that Origin and Steam have the same price entry point, so it's not really an ideal example that you're using.

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

So, it's permanently exclusive to The Pirate Bay?

I know, he means legally available, but the album has already shot to the #1 spot on the infamous public torrent music list.

It probably would be there even without these shenanigans, but seriously, don't make it harder to buy music.

Also, Kanye, you don't get to say who gets to talk about your music.

 

[CloudWolf]

Bear in mind that Origin and Steam have the same price entry point, so it's not really an ideal example that you're using.

Plus, you can play Steam and Origin games offline and for most big releases you can at least buy a physical version in a store. If there was a game streaming service you'd have to pay 20 bucks (or more) per month to use and, let's say, CD Projekt Red suddenly announced that they're releasing The Witcher 4 exclusively on that service and that you can never buy it anywhere else or play it without logging in to that service then you would have a good comparison. Luckily games haven't reached that point yet.

 

[toff74]

You guys realise that theres a lower tier subscription? Oh, its not free lol.

Personally I like the service and the apps.

Additionally it looks and works better than the competing services i've tried. (Spotify, Deezer).

 

[ClosingADoor]

Bear in mind that Origin and Steam have the same price entry point, so it's not really an ideal example that you're using.

Some albums are more expensive then others. The album is easily available, I don't see why people act like pirating is ok for this.


I think its a stupid move from him, but whatever. Pay the 10 bucks and see how it is if you want to listen to it.

 

[MrS]

More like F.L.O.P

I appreciate you.

Tidal can keep this piece of shit excuse of an album.

 

[Enco]

Lmao like someone is going to join a subscription service for 1 album.

 

[TheFixer]

Lmao like someone is going to join a subscription service for 1 album.

I'm sure thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, have done so already for Pablo.

 

[Gastone]

Kanye is an idiot and a racist.
If he's $53mill in debt, this is exactly what he should be doing to get rid of that..

 

[Shuggananas]

I'm sure thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, have done so already for Pablo.

This probably caused a lot of pirating though
Super stupid decision but not surprising coming from him.

 

[CherryWoodFuton]

I'm sure thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, have done so already for Pablo.

I did 😭

Spoiler

Bu bu but I cancelled right after I signed up

 

[ClosingADoor]

Lmao like someone is going to join a subscription service for 1 album.

How many people subscribed to HBO for just Game of Thrones. Or Netflix for a show they want to see. Exclusives are a good selling point for these services, but not the only thing available of course.

 

[Mass_Pincup]

The fact that it's basically just a more pretentious and expensive version of Spotify, even though there's nothing there to justify the higher price point. The music quality isn't that different from what you get on Spotify Premium (unless you own very advanced headphones, which most normal people don't).

But it has the same price.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Kanye needs some help right now.

Okay I give up, that Twitter account is actually parody right?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

How many people subscribed to HBO for just Game of Thrones. Or Netflix for a show they want to see. Exclusives are a good selling point for these services, but not the only thing available of course.

Tidal has pretty much run its course already though.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Tidal has pretty much run its course already though.

So piracy is OK if a service has "run it course", whatever that means? Can we also download Quantum Break when it comes out in the Windows 10 Store, since a lot of people think that will never take off also.

 

[Gastone]

So piracy is OK if a service has "run it course", whatever that means? Can we also download Quantum Break when it comes out in the Windows 10 Store, since a lot of people think that will never take off also.

Quantum Break will be available on two different platforms, both digitally and physically. Not really a fair comparison.
Tidal is a desperate attempt at creating something similar to iTunes and Spotify. I don't know anyone who is using Tidal, and everyone pretty much shot it down in the media after it's reveal.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Quantum Break will be available on two different platforms, both digitally and physically. Not really a fair comparison.
Tidal is a desperate attempt at creating something similar to iTunes and Spotify. I don't know anyone who is using Tidal, and everyone pretty much shot it down in the media after it's reveal.

I have yet to see a physical PC offer for the game, but maybe that will come still.

You might think it is a desperate attempt (I also don't use it), but I don't think it is fair to say "well, you don't put a product on the service I like, so now I have the right to pirate it." You are not forced to buy the album.

 

[Herbspiceguy]

That's a shame. I liked what I heard from the snippets of the album and was ready to buy this, but I'm not touching Tidal.

 

[Gastone]

I have yet to see a physical PC offer for the game, but maybe that will come still.

You might think it is a desperate attempt (I also don't use it), but I don't think it is fair to say "well, you don't put a product on the service I like, so now I have the right to pirate it." You are not forced to buy the album.

Of course, i agree with your statement about not having the right to pirate anything simply because it's not available on a preferred platform etc. I was merely pointing out that the comparison didn't quite sit right with me.

 

[Ullus]

Obnoxious as fuck, shame cus his music is actually good.

 

[Ensirius]

Dude is so fucking obnoxious.

FTFY.