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[mattiewheels]

The way I see it, it's as disingenuous as having a Top 10 NFL QB thread for this season and leaving out Peyton Manning.

Here's the deal with these lists: they're very personal and don't rely on something quantifiable like sports stats.

 

[Mudcrab]

You clearly haven't seen many military strategy games. UoC is infinitely more approachable than something like Hearts of Iron 3.

You know, I can play Europa, Crusader Kings and Vicky II all day, but Hearts of Iron fucks with my head like no other game.

I should really check out Unity of Command.

The way I see it, it's as disingenuous as having a Top 10 NFL QB thread for this season and leaving out Peyton Manning.

I can no longer tell what's real or not in these threads.

 

[Frolow]

The way I see it, it's as disingenuous as having a Top 10 NFL QB thread for this season and leaving out Peyton Manning.

Your analogy is moronic. Peyton Manning is objectively one of the best QBs this year. His stats are stellar, that's a fact, and nothing can change that. You could make a (stupid) argument and say that his WRs and Offensive Linemen are the sole reasons for his fantastic year, but from looking at the stats alone you can see that he's objectively one of the top performers of this season.

The Last of Us is subjectively one of the best games of 2013. Many people think it's the best game of the year and that's their opinion. However, Ken Levine obviously didn't feel the same way and decided not to include the title on his list.

I can no longer tell what's real or not in these threads.

If this guy is metatrolling then I should congratulate him for successfully baiting me.

 

[dream]

What amuses me the most is that "Naughty Gods" fans aren't even confident in how they feel about The Last of Us; they need its presence on GOTY lists to validate their esteem for the game.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Weird statement incoming, but I wonder if Ken Levine plays any Japanese developed games.

Edit: I should say "many." Wind Waker is his number two, but I can't say I've heard him mentioning many non-Western games on Irrational Behavior or other outlets.

 

[rbenchley]

The way I see it, it's as disingenuous as having a Top 10 NFL QB thread for this season and leaving out Peyton Manning.

Ridiculous comparison. First, there are only 32 teams in the NFL while there are hundreds of new games being released every year. Second, there are objective measures for rating NFL quarterbacks, whereas games are a little more subjective. Third, who knows if he even played TLOU when he made that list. I don't have an opinion on whether Her is a better Spike Jonez movie than Being John Malkovich or Adaptation because I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Until then, I have no opinion on it. Fourth, going back to the subjective nature of evaluating video games, I would say that Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are incredibly well made games, but they would never be in my top ten lists because for whatever reason, I just don't enjoy playing them. Great games, but not for me.

 

[Derrick01]

No. From what I've played of it, Unity of Command is mostly focused on warfare and tactics.

Good, if it was like HoI I would probably just stick with that. I may just give this a try before the steam sale is over.

 

[Dascu]

Same. I took a look at it on Steam and at first glance it looks like a more cartoony version of hearts of iron. To the people who've played Unity, is it like that?

The entire aspect of capturing supply routes and cutting off territory reminded me more of Company of Heroes, to be honest.

First, the game is going to kick your ass and you're going to lose, easily. Then, you realize what you did wrong, adjust your tactics, and after a few tries you will formulate a perfect strategy, execute it and finish your mission with a turn to spare. It's fantastic and immensely rewarding.

 

[Flandy]

I half expected Bioshock Infinite to be at the top

 

[scytherage]

Wind Waker high up the list? Respect +10

 

[Riposte]

The funny thing is, maybe he didn't play it and will include it in a list a year from now if he gets to write one, but by then the cult of TLoU will have died down a bit.

You know, I can play Europa, Crusader Kings and Vicky II all day, but Hearts of Iron fucks with my head like no other game.

I should really check out Unity of Command.

Yeah, Hearts of Iron is brutal. My honest attempts have only gone so far before I get distracted. Right now, something like Wargame: AirLand Battle is more my speed (mainly in multiplayer). It is a pseudo-wargame/RTS hybrid thing with "decks".

 

[Bishop89]

Very easy to see who doesn't own a 3DS.

I own a 3ds and wouldnt put anything from it in my top 10

 

[Madouu]

I appreciate the Fallen Enchantress mention.

I own a 3ds and wouldnt put anything from it in my top 10

I own a 3ds and I would put ALBW at number one in my top 10.

 

[KevMan1815]

Did he not play The Last of Us?

In another article he said it was the worst game ever made.

Spoiler

As far as I know that's not true.

 

[Clawww]

guys where can i seek help if im a video game hipster who can't face the facts and put TLOU in my top 10

please i'm tired of being called names

 

[Glass Rebel]

Sorry, did my opinion hurt your feelings?

 

[dolemite]

None of the 2013 lists include the latest Arkham and Gears games. People aren't that easily fooled by an oversized expansion pack.

 

[vpance]

Unity of Command is ok. But it's more of a solve the puzzle trial and error type deal.

 

[Conciliator]

i paid ken levine to take TLOU off his list just to fuck with you guys.

 

[Bronetta]

I own a 3ds and wouldnt put anything from it in my top 10

A clear mark of someone who hasn't played Fire Emblem: Awakening or Link Between Worlds.

 

[Corto]

Unity of Command is ok. But it's more of a solve the puzzle trial and error type deal.

I felt that Unity of Command highly reactive AI and the supply chain critical importance had me reacting very differently each playthrough. But I also didn't care much for the decisive victory/prestige points achievements.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

Every goty thread becoming intolerable because of tlou bullshit. My god.

 

[TetraGenesis]

Maybe he thinks it's not goty worthy. The world won't end if someone does believe that.

Hahahaha, Derrick01 talking about "opinions".

 

[vpance]

I felt that Unity of Command highly reactive AI and the supply chain critical importance had me reacting very differently each playthrough. But I also didn't care much for the decisive victory/prestige points achievements.

I only tried for the perfect score each mission and there typically was only 1 way to do it, more or less maybe with slight variations. Didn't manage to finish the whole campaign but I did find it pretty compelling in the beginning. I was impressed at how they managed to convert supply line, attrition and troop management into a very intuitive interface while feeling pretty damn representative of how it worked in real life.

 

[Ishan]

ken is just angry nd stole nate wells j/k j/k dont jump on me

 

[SmokedMeat]

I really have to try out this Lego Marvel.

Best Lego game yet.

 

[PFD]

That's a ballin' list, great taste

 

[eot]

I only tried for the perfect score each mission and there typically was only 1 way to do it, more or less maybe with slight variations. Didn't manage to finish the whole campaign but I did find it pretty compelling in the beginning. I was impressed at how they managed to convert supply line, attrition and troop management into a very intuitive interface while feeling pretty damn representative of how it worked in real life.

Brilliant victories just seem like a way to ruin your own fun

 

[vpance]

Brilliant victories just seem like a way to ruin your own fun

To a certain degree, yeah. I have this kind of issue with certain games. But still, I don't think I'd enjoy it as much if I just played to squeak by.

They need to take their engine and build a full fledged Civ or EU type game around it.

 

[sleeprockss]

a ken levine fanboy admitting to spite for the last of us. but like you said you cant sub anything in there because the last of us' greatness overcomes your hate

Holy shit, this is the best thing I've ever read on Gaf.

 

[simplythebest]

Did he not play The Last of Us?

He was forced to add move support to Bioshock Infinite so that's why it's not on his list. Haha

 

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

Well he got me to buy Unity of Command.

 

[djtiesto]

He didn't even choose the right Zelda...

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

No TLOU = no credibility

Has he played it? Just curious, would love to see his impressions of it and the mess that was Bioshock. In fact I would love to see a lot of dev's opinions of their GOTY and impressions like that Japanese thread we had.