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Kevin O'Leary launches unofficial PM bid against Justin Trudeau
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Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
(he doesn't have 3 years to do it)
If I'm correct, he only has 4 months or so and not 3 years. The CPC election is on May 2017.
equippedwithtowel
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Someone should tell that to all the federal caucus members casually throwing Notley under the bus.
Mr. Giggles
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Well then.. He better hit the books
capitalCORN
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The best he'll get is "Je ne pas parlais Francais, Pardonne moi".
gutter_trash
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*some how my YouTube link didn't link
killer rin
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He was born in Montreal, spent a lot of time within Quebec as a child. Went to school in Quebec and still didn't pick up French, and he thinks he can do it in 3 years...actually 7 months because that's the leadership election which if he wins he would have to actually get elected into Parliament meaning Quebec can see him in all of his anglophone glory
HammerOfThor
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Man, it's like 2016 needed to give us all one last "fuck you" before its over.
O'Leary apprendra francais tout de suite parce que O'Leary est
le meilleur. Il fera Canada à nouveau une grande magnifique! Grande ligue!
I apologize if this is a little off, my French is a touch rusty since most people I know prefer speaking English.
Mechanized
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To be fair, O'Leary seems somewhat sensible and he's not a con artist like trump, he knows his shit, he's a real businessman. I would have to see what his policies for other important issues would be. Honestly, whatever it takes to dig Canada out of the hole it's in and give strength back to our dollar, I'm going to back.
killer rin
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If there is one thing I regret, it's that Child-Rin never paid as much attention in French Class as he should have, I blame the Ontario educational system.
I really need to continue the Duolingo course. That said I did manage to pick up maybe a quarter of those words, nice touch on the Trump reference.
the_sun_king
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Please don't follow your neighbors' (UK and US) lead, Canada.
excelsiorlef
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https://youtu.be/AuqemytQ5QA
He's a fucking moron....
He thinks poverty is great and the the 1% are paragons of the world...
He's not going to dig Canada out of shit he's just going to put more people in poverty.
Also read this thread h's a fake successful business man, he's a con artist who hides it by being loud, sound familiar?
http://www.nationalobserver.com/201...-shocking-story-kevin-olearys-business-career
Anyone who says let's run the country like a business is going to doom the country.
To repeat this for the millionth time: He sold Mattel the corporate equivalent of a dying horse and Mattel had to shoot it out of its misery and tried to offer a Dragon's Den contestant a credit line that had a higher interest rate than the banks offered...after the contestant would have given them even more of an interest in the company than they initially offered. He's the Donald Trump of Canada in every manner: A terribly tempered toddler (he went after one of his colleagues on Dragon's Den a lot) whose public persona masks their ineptitude as a businessman. As one of his colleagues put it: "He gets as disgusted with me and my willingness to be the nice guy as much as I get with him and his inability to see the human side". He's about as real as the odds of President Pussygrabber's Administration not amounting to a calamity. I'm not going to mince words: Fuck him and fuck the idea that he's what Canada needs to recover when it's A) doing better this year after B) the hole that Harper got us into. I may have my issues with Trudeau but he is a hell of a better option than Kevin "3.5 billion living in poverty can pull up their bootstraps" O'Leary coming within 100 feet of the Conservative Party of Canada, let alone running as their leader.
I took French courses for about eight years so I know my fair share of French. That said, I deeply regret not taking a French course for my bachelor thus far and need to brush back up on them outside of a line or two when making videos.
Yes it's a nice change of pace. For far too many years my riding was represented by Maurice Vellacott. His mail outs were a real treat.
PastorOfMuppets
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Couple things about O'Leary:
- He grew up in Montreal during a much more divisive time. It was common pride for many Anglophones in Quebec to have never learned French. Some actually made it a point of pride. Most of those types left in the by 90's. O'Leary is one of those types.
- Like someone already said, he is not as great of a business man as he says. This will be exposed during the campaign.
- The fact that he is from Quebec originally and chose not to learn French is a huge knock against him in Quebec - which already is not exactly friendly towards the Conservatives. That's 78 seats he's sacrificing right there.
- Another thing about him is that he spends portion of his time outside of Canada living in the US to avoid Canadian taxes.
I don't know much about his opinions on social issues but he's a first generation immigrant so he'd have very little ground to stand on if he started an anti-immigration stance.
- He grew up in Montreal during a much more divisive time. It was common pride for many Anglophones in Quebec to have never learned French. Some actually made it a point of pride. Most of those types left in the by 90's. O'Leary is one of those types.
- Like someone already said, he is not as great of a business man as he says. This will be exposed during the campaign.
- The fact that he is from Quebec originally and chose not to learn French is a huge knock against him in Quebec - which already is not exactly friendly towards the Conservatives. That's 78 seats he's sacrificing right there.
- Another thing about him is that he spends portion of his time outside of Canada living in the US to avoid Canadian taxes.
I don't know much about his opinions on social issues but he's a first generation immigrant so he'd have very little ground to stand on if he started an anti-immigration stance.
MrPhiliasfrog
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I don't think he'll be able to learn french. The guy lived all his childhood in Quebec and didn't learn it. I hope members of the Conservatives party choose wisely their future leader.
Anyway, c'est pas évidemment d'apprendre à parlé le français.
Anyway, c'est pas évidemment d'apprendre à parlé le français.
You're heading down a dark path here, friend. Please take measured, thoughtful steps. Is he not a con artist? Does it necessarily matter if he is a businessman? Is "whatever it takes" not worth substantiating before you throw your weigh behind him?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Est-ce qu'il dit "grande ligue" ou "grande lit"?
yanipheonu
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The more encouraging bit is that being "oh yeah, that guy from Canadian Dragon's Den? And I guess I saw him on CBC news once?" isn't exactly Trump level of renown.
KernelPanic
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He also doesn't have Trump's level of baggage, however. He'll motivate the conservative base by default and may be able to capture the hearts of some otherwise apathetic and gullible ne'er-do-wells.
"Omelette du fromage."
As long as it's not O'Leary or Leitch, they can nominate an actual monkey for all I care. But if it does come down to those two somehow, I fear for society.
edit: Wouldn't it also be advantageous to get some in before the next french debate?
"le pamplemousse"
I don't know why that word is so funny after all these years.
Qui a coupe le fromage.
Don't forget Trost. He wants to undo progress made over a decade ago by making gay marriage illegal.
Je pense, depuis O'Leary parle français avec l'intelligence d'un enfant, il le prononcera "ligue" comme "lit".
Almost all of the candidates for the 2017 leadership run, save for Chong who still isn't an altogether great candidate, are pretty awful but Leitch, O'Leary, Trost and Bernier are the main people to keep an eye on given what they've said leading up to the leadership.
Sir Alemeth
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Lol don't make me laugh.
He ain't gonna win. Not a chance.
He ain't gonna win. Not a chance.
2016: He won't win.
2017: Trudeau's still up in the polls.
2018: He doesn't mean what he says.
2019: Remember when we had Harper? Those were the days.
SpaceCadetKeon
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Trump will have been in for 3 years by 2019. That's 3 years of chaos on full display for Canada and everyone else to see. So hopefully, if you guys didn't already know better by that point, you won't follow our example. Good luck.
We elected Rob Ford once and almost elected his brother after everything both of them said (the current mayor's not much better, but at least he's socially more competent with his condemnation of Roosh "legalize" V). We've got an uphill battle to fight, especially if the normalization of Trump takes place over time (our aforementioned mayor has even said to "give him a chance" and former PM Mulroney called him a gentleman). Leitch may be worse but an O'Leary-led Conservative Party of Canada is its own nightmare.
matthewwhatever
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Just so everyone here is aware: we have a Canadian politics thread -- all are welcome to join our discussions there!
Counterpoint: O'Leary is a con artist, he doesn't know all that much, and he's not a particularly good businessman.
I know two of those links were posted elsewhere on this page, but seriously, it needs to be stated over and over again: Kevin O'Leary is a loudmouthed, ignorant fraud.
Counterpoint: O'Leary is a con artist, he doesn't know all that much, and he's not a particularly good businessman.
I know two of those links were posted elsewhere on this page, but seriously, it needs to be stated over and over again: Kevin O'Leary is a loudmouthed, ignorant fraud.
You know when Ignatieff was running, a cornerstone of the conservative campaign was that he was not "Canadian enough" as ol' Mike spent too much time abroad, can't we use the same thing against O'Leary? Part of me thinks the left wouldn't stoop to such base levels of idiocy and nativism but its a brave new world out here.
Given how many people have gone after Monsef over her background, I wouldn't put it past the left or right. We've not as about nationalism and bigotry as many might assume.
matthewwhatever
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Iggy returned to Canada and was elected as an MP. O'Leary, meanwhile, can't even be bothered to move back:
I wouldn't say it's so much his fault that he didn't learn French growing up in Montreal; if he'd been exposed to the language from a young age, he'd have picked it up, as all young children without learning difficulties are able to.
So the fact that he didn't is more on his parents than him, they must have raised him/predisposed him to a monolingual environment.
As for learning the language by May, well, that's a tall task. Still, it's more than doable in three years. Having been completely self-taught, in 11 months I've gone from barely being able to ask someone's name to having a B2 certification; I can read French novels, watch films without subs, and hold everyday conversation. That's with less than a year of admittedly consistent learning, but I did it without a teacher and in my spare time.
Not that he's necessarily going to make the effort to do the same, and he'll need more than basic French to win.
It's doable in 3 years but not less than six months, and that's what he has because the CPC leadership election is next May.
matthewwhatever
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As long as he doesn't jump in before the January debate -- which is entirely in French -- he can probably get by in the campaign without needing to speak in French at all. And the Conservatives did try having a unilingual leader in the not-too-distant past: before Reform did a hostile takeover of the PC Party, Stockwell Day couldn't speak a word of French. So there is precedent.
But realistically, Maxime Bernier basically has the Quebec vote sewn up at this point (he's received something like 90% of the donations from the province to date), so O'Leary -- like everyone else in the field -- need to start sucking up to Bernier's supporters for that sweet, sweet second choice support. Not speaking any French will make that difficult.
But realistically, Maxime Bernier basically has the Quebec vote sewn up at this point (he's received something like 90% of the donations from the province to date), so O'Leary -- like everyone else in the field -- need to start sucking up to Bernier's supporters for that sweet, sweet second choice support. Not speaking any French will make that difficult.
MrCunningham
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This is definitely true that O'Leary is a pretty solid venture capitalist and philanthropist. He is a much better business man than Trump could ever be. Trump is great at one thing, marketing himself as a brand name. Donald Trump is the master of self marketing, hence how he became president-elect. Kevin O'Leary likes being in the spotlight too, like Trump. But unlike Trump, he is not as conceited. But he does know how to make a lot of wise investments.
Maybe Kevin O'Leary wouldn't be so bad to help Canada get out of that debt that Justin Trudeau has us stuck in.
But I don't know if O'Leary would be good at being our Prime Minister.
MrCunningham
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That's why I said I wasn't sure if I would want him to be Prime Minister of Canada. I do still believe that he is a better business man than Trump, even with his shadier business tactics. But then again, find me a business person that hadn't use shady tactics to further their careers.
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