Kilgrave. Kingpin. Loki.

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Poodlestrike said:
Kingpin sorta fizzled out towards the end. I'd say Loki, if only because he's the only one to remain a) consistently strong and b) alive over the course of multiple appearances. Other contenders are Grant Ward because, again, alive, and Kilgrave who was consistently entertaining throughout JJ.

Frankly, everyone but Loki is a distant second. Marvel's got a real dearth of solid villains atm.
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The problem is a lot of Marvel's absolute best villains are part of franchises they licensed out to other movie studios years ago.

Dr. Doom. Galactus. Magneto.

Sure, the deal with Sony means we could see the Spider-Man villains in the MCU. But we've already seen Green Goblin and Dr. Octopus in non-MCU films. (And considering we've seen Peter fight the Green Goblin in three movies, and it was Harry in two of them, I am not expecting an Osborn on a glider anytime soon.)
 
Killgrave was legitimately terrifying and Tennabt is probably the best actor to play a villian in the Marvel U, but special recognition needs to go to Yellowjacket. The scene in the bathroom with the potential client that snubbed him was both disgusting and creepy-body horror stuff, man.
 
Mix Master said:
Dont Remind me, blehhh
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How can you hate this? Dude faces Iron Man and Warmachine, keeps watching football. That's baller af.
 
zma1013 said:
I could have been mistaken having only seen it once, but I felt a lot of what he actually said was sarcasm, including that line.
It seemed like he knew very well he was a monster but he actually liked doing it and didn't care otherwise. The only times he actually suppressed or entertained the idea of being good was simply to appease Jessica so he could interact with her and nothing more. He didn't actually want to be good, he was still very bad and he knew it and actually enjoyed it.
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This. Dude was a piece of shit, and his pathetic rationales are both hilarious and terrifying.
 
I haven't finished Jessica Jones yet, but from that list for me it has to be Kilgrave. The guy just has no qualms about using people, including children, to get what he wants. He's a sick, despicable person and brought to creepy and chilling life by Tennant.
 
SomewhatGroovy said:
The biggest villains of MCU are the writers of Jessica Jones. What a stale boring ass show.
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Agreed. I wouldn't mind it so much if people would stop giving JJ bonus points because it talks about "mature" topics. It's awfully written, and no...it isn't smart.

Kingpin is best. Great acting with a great script.
Loki and Kilgrave next. A villain is only as good as the hero opposing them, and neither had great heroes. However, Tennant and Hiddleston did great work considering the handicap their scripts gave them.
 
Loki is clearly the best

Out of the TV sphere, Grant Ward wins. Kingpin is overrated, and Kilgrave while good gets a little wasted in the end.

In movies its a hard pick for the 2nd best villain, which speaks to the overall weakest part of the MCU. Maybe Robert Redford as Hydra man
 
I'm blown away by all the people complimenting Kilgrave. So much more different than all the JJ threads hating on Tennant's character.
 
Kilgrave was pretty fun, but I think that Kingpin was slightly better due to the fact that we got to know more about him. Kilgrave was definitely the scarier of the two though, his powers at the end were crazy.

Oh, and Loki is a truly horrible villian, one of Marvel's worst. This thread should've been called: "Kilgrave. Kingpin. Obadiah Stane."
 
That's tough. I am just so in love with Vincent's Kingpin performance I'd have to say him. I just watched DD again and he is just fucking wonderful.
 
Poyunch said:
I'm blown away by all the people complimenting Kilgrave. So much more different than all the JJ threads hating on Tennant's character.
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People who liked the show mostly left that thread after the ten thousandth iteration of "but why did that plot point happen?"

General consensus online seems to be that Tennant was excellent.
 
In terms of sheer creepiness, I have to give it to Kilgrave - he makes my skin crawl with revulsion.

However, in terms of actually being my favourite character and the most fun to watch on screen, it's Loki.
 
DeathyBoy said:
People who liked the show mostly left that thread after the ten thousandth iteration of "but why did that plot point happen?"

General consensus online seems to be that Tennant was excellent.
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Well, yeah, consensus can be found if people don't necessarily want to talk about the character. He becomes a joke character half way through. Should have gotten someone either more smarmy or serious. Kilgrave is a role mads mikkelsen was born for.
 
Kilgrave is the only one I found truly compelling. Kingpin was better than usual, but ultimately didn't leave much of an impression on me. I still haven't fully watched Thor: The Dark World, but I can't for the life of me understand all the Loki praise. Good performance by the actor, but the villain himself feels like something you would get in any cartoon.

I actually liked Stane from Iron Man more than any of the recent villains like Yellowjacket or Ronan. But at this point, I go into these films with very low expectations on the villains.
 
Manmademan said:
DD was chock full of good villains. I think Madame Gao is seriously underrated.
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agreed

I got glimpses of the real Kingpin when he smashed Matt's skull in, completely unflinched by his blows, but not much more than that. Gao was better, sadly
 
Subpar Spatula said:
Well, yeah, consensus can be found if people don't necessarily want to talk about the character. He becomes a joke character half way through. Should have gotten someone either more smarmy or serious. Kilgrave is a role mads mikkelsen was born for.
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Joke character? Dude increasingly carries out nightmare fuel shit.
 
1 - I really liked Dottie Underwood. She would act all innocent, "I'm just the silliest goose!" Then goes onto killing people that are in her way.

2 - Loki was awesome in the three films he was in.

3 - Kilgrave. I don't think I need to say more.

4 - Kingpin was well developed, his right hand man was awesome too.

5 - Grant Ward was good in S2, but we'll see if he becomes great in the next couple of episodes.

6 - Red Skull was menacing enough.

7 - Ultron was a cute and funny robot. Too bad you couldn't pinch its cheeks.

8 - The rest were forgettable.
 
Kingpin is the best all round. Loki is the most fun to watch but unfortunately for him is in almost entirely terrible films. Kilgrave is the scariest but the writing on JJ was pretty dire, so he could only do so much. Agents of Shield is piss poor and nobody from that show deserves a mention.
 
Kilgrave, Ward and Kingpin. In that order.

Movie villains for the most part have been incredibly disappointing. I suppose it has something to do with their rise and fall having to take place during the course of a movie that also has to balance out having a ton of other stories going on. The treatment Red Skull, Ultron and even Loki have gotten is just terrible. I don't think The Dark Knight is the best comic film ever or anything, but it had the right idea with making the Joker the center part of the story. We already know about Batman, no need to spend so much time on him.

The only villain I really liked from the MCU is Zola. I'm just a sucker for these long con stories though.
 
Varna said:
Kilgrave, Ward and Kingpin. In that order.

Movie villains for the most part have been incredibly disappointing. I suppose it has something to do with their rise and fall having to take place during the course of a movie that also has to balance out having a ton of other stories going on. The treatment Red Skull, Ultron and even Loki have gotten is just terrible. I don't think The Dark Knight is the best comic film ever or anything, but it had the right idea with making the Joker the center part of the story. We already know about Batman, no need to spend so much time on him.

The only villain I really liked from the MCU is Zola. I'm just a sucker for these long con stories though.
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Completely disagree with the rest of what you wrote, but the bolded is spot on. Zola is holy-shit-tier in terms of a villain, but flies totally under the radar because he doesn't get a ton of screen time.
 
Manmademan said:
Completely disagree with the rest of what you wrote, but the bolded is spot on. Zola is holy-shit-tier in terms of a villain, but flies totally under the radar because he doesn't get a ton of screen time.
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The acting from dude in WS was awesome. He needs to return somehow
 
DeathyBoy said:
Joke character? Dude increasingly carries out nightmare fuel shit.
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And? How does this make him a good character? Your perception of him changes multiple times throughout the show: for no reason: he's first mysterious and calculating then smart and funny then weird with
parental issues (which is his only growth or "arc")
. Dude was cool early on and faded to lol territory. He loses his presence when you see the actor be goofy.
 
Kilgrave. Loki a close second.

I really didn't like Kingpin; especially the fact that they never explain how a socially inept middle-aged man from a poor background with childish anger and self-control issues somehow becomes a criminal mastermind, controlling a vast empire and attracting devoted followers. It just wasn't believable at all to me.
 
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