sol_bad
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He did as soon as he could, he tried tricking them in the 2nd episode but Mobius knew he was trying to trick them, then he left the TVA in episode 3 to try and join up with Sylvie to take over the TVA.
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He did as soon as he could, he tried tricking them in the 2nd episode but Mobius knew he was trying to trick them, then he left the TVA in episode 3 to try and join up with Sylvie to take over the TVA.
Ulysses 31
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I was mainly talking about how he should've behaved in ep1. By ep2 he'd lost most of his mischief edge and undergone too much of a personality change(if you accept what the show tells you).
Actually, the show solves all contrivances in the MCU up to this points since it's revealed that there's no free will and everything was pre-determined by He Who Remains.
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longdi
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I guess ep2 took place days or weeks later 
even in ep3, loki was sussing and hoping to trick sylvie
also did not like the whole HWR pre-determined plot for phase 4, seems they are going with the matrix angle.
sylki are probably the many iterations who visited HWR as like trineoty.
even in ep3, loki was sussing and hoping to trick sylvie
also did not like the whole HWR pre-determined plot for phase 4, seems they are going with the matrix angle.
sylki are probably the many iterations who visited HWR as like trineoty.
Ulysses 31
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sol_bad
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Just in case anyone is interested. Her talks about time travel and the multiverse and how it works etc.
screencrush.com
Creator Michael Waldron Answers Our ‘Loki’ and ‘Heels’ Questions
We finally understand how variants really work!
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DeafTourette
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Just in case anyone is interested. Her talks about time travel and the multiverse and how it works etc.
Creator Michael Waldron Answers Our ‘Loki’ and ‘Heels’ Questions
We finally understand how variants really work!
Yep, I listened to Ryan Ary on this... So the sacred timeline IS a multiverse but the outcomes are already predetermined... So anyone who deviates from the path (like Sylvie wanting to be a hero or Alligator Loki eating the wrong cat) is nabbed by the TVA and pruned...
It's so that He Who Remains' variants (like Kang) don't come into being.
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Great Hair
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GeorgPrime
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Loki Season 2 cant come soon enough
sol_bad
Member
There are rumours that season 2 isn't an actual season 2 and that basically 10-12 episodes were really shot. The back half was delayed due to COVID. Hopefully the rumour is true and the wait won't be too long.
Well I did enjoy the show but I thought they messed up Loki as well. I always thought he was a lot smarter than Thor and liked to plan things out but he just came off as an idiot in this show. My issue with him and Thor has been that they have either been depowered or made stupid in this universe. Like Thor is the prince of kingdom that spans I believe several planets. So you would think he would be well educated on things like science and even magic to a certain degree as well as ruling and leading soldiers but he just comes off as an idiot. I still don't know what does being an asgardian god even mean in this universe outside of having some special ability but like half the marvel heroes have special abilities.
I'm kinda curious how Sylvie became such a strong warrior. I find it odd that she was able to escape the TVA constantly when she was young and how did she gain her fighting abilities. Her backstory leaves a lot out in how she became who she is. I honestly would have thought Loki having been trained in asgard would have been the much more deadlier warrior.
I did enjoy the main bad guy and the way he acts does make sense but now we get to see what he originally acted like and I doubt he would be as goofy.
I'm kinda curious how Sylvie became such a strong warrior. I find it odd that she was able to escape the TVA constantly when she was young and how did she gain her fighting abilities. Her backstory leaves a lot out in how she became who she is. I honestly would have thought Loki having been trained in asgard would have been the much more deadlier warrior.
I did enjoy the main bad guy and the way he acts does make sense but now we get to see what he originally acted like and I doubt he would be as goofy.
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MaestroMike
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just finished it dammitt sylvie
ForAcademicPurposes
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Amiga
Member
thinking to deeply. the show was just a cool way to interduce the multiverse concept. and through that interduce X-Men/FF.
the multiverse is a reoccurring theme in Marvel/DC because multiple big event stories that effect the world contradict with each other. instead of doing a better editing job they just let the writers do whatever and reset things back to the familiar "normal".
there was a time when Joe Quesada tried to keep the story together at Marvel but even he lost control of the plot.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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I too saw the theme of the garden of Eden. They are given the choice
to become gods, but unlike in Eden where the woman accepts the temptation in this case she refuses the offer, and this is what turns everything into chaos. Although it could be mere coincidence that it does this subtle play on an old classic.
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Alter_Fridge
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Just watched episode 1, really good. Can't believe it was the same writer as Strange 2. Much snappier and clevererer dialogue. Couple questions though:
1. Loki teleporting - does he have any control over it, or does it occur randomly? If it's purely random, it seems to occur at some convenient moments
2. If the TVA has all the Infinity Stones, how do the rest of everyone else get hold of them?
3. Pruning/Reseting? Does that refer to individual characters or is the whole timeline nuked out of orbit?
Also, it annoyed me that Loki just left the Teseract lying on the sand at the start and didn't pick it up straight away. I mean, it is kind of important
1. Loki teleporting - does he have any control over it, or does it occur randomly? If it's purely random, it seems to occur at some convenient moments
2. If the TVA has all the Infinity Stones, how do the rest of everyone else get hold of them?
3. Pruning/Reseting? Does that refer to individual characters or is the whole timeline nuked out of orbit?
Also, it annoyed me that Loki just left the Teseract lying on the sand at the start and didn't pick it up straight away. I mean, it is kind of important
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ManaByte
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The TVA exists outside the MCU universe, so infinity stones are useless paper weights there.
The whole timeline is nuked.
Doesn't matter since that timeline was nuked and he never stole it in the first place.
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Alter_Fridge
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Ok cheers, but what about the teleporting thing
sol_bad
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The TVA can manually control where and when they teleport.
Alter_Fridge
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So whenever Loki teleports in a flash of smoke, that's the TVA controlling?
sol_bad
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Can you remember a scene where this happens?
Alter_Fridge
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The initial teleporting with the Tesseract in 2012 for instance. It's not really smoke but more of a portal
sol_bad
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That initial teleportation is the Tesseract.
Alter_Fridge
Member
What's the explanation behind that
Edit: I was more getting at why he didn't use it to get away from the TVA when they confronted him
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sol_bad
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Infinity stones and powers don't work within the TVA. The TVA exists between actual realities like the 616 MCU and 838 realities etc.
No real reason is given as far as I remember, it's something you just have to accept. Just like they don't explain how magic works or how teleports work or why an infinity stone gave Wanda her powers.
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If you mean why didn't he escape straight away at the start of the season, he doesn't know who the TVA are and he thinks he is better than them.
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Alter_Fridge
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Yeah I realised it wouldn't work inside the TVA, but doesn't he teleport a few times in the building in episode 1?
I meant when they confronted him the very initial time, when he was too stupid to pick up the Tesseract off the sand and thusly got taken
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sol_bad
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Alter_Fridge
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Check my edit post.
Yeah I realise now it was probably arrogance that did him in
Pagusas
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it’s a common problem with Lokis’
Ulysses 31
Member
But this show takes it a step further like Loki being cold while he's a frost giant or getting thrown off a train by normie guards while he could outfight Captain America 48h earlier.it’s a common problem with Lokis’