UntoldDreams
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cameltoe said:
The immersion in this game is one of its highest value points.
KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW
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The immersion in this game is one of its highest value points.
Mr.Potato Head
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anonymousAversa said:
Thx for the info and insight
Rapping Granny
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There is no chainsaw in my gun. 7/10
UntoldDreams
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Rapping Granny said:
I still don't have a PS3 at home. 5/10
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thuway said:
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Mr.Potato Head said:
If you're depending on artstyle alone, then sure. That's subjective, but let's not get carried away here. Crysis's tech is unmatched.
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Jason's Ultimatum said:
They go for a very different aesthetic as well so it is difficult to compare...KZ2 has tons of effects and post processing to give it a much more cinematic feel...crysis has gigantic levels which hold their detail right down to the micro level...even the character models are beyond ridiculous.
It will be very interesting to see if this can dethrone crysis as my favourite shooter...it would be nice to have a few open levels...I love the freedom
jett said:Not really, the ones you can destroy are the ones placed in front of turrets in Salamun Market, if you're using a rocket launcher/grenade the turret will most likely get destroyed along with the bags anyway.The more sandbag-packed covers are indestructible.
Thanks for clarification. Maybe that's something they should take into consideration.
Sorry Rikyfree, looks like you're a little too trigger happy. :lol
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Jason's Ultimatum said:
Please read in its entirety:
http://www.guerrilla-games.com/publications/dr_kz2_rsx_dev07.pdf
and please understand they were built on different platforms.
Crysis' tech is unmatched on the PC.
Killzone's tech and SPU management on the PS3 are unmatched.
Oh yeah, this thread's about to explode.
Rapping Granny
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anonymousAversa said:
Well we can stop it here...by saying both games look better than anything else right now.
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Rapping Granny said:
Tom Penny said:
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It exists for the sake of heightening immersion. It adds to the feel of chaos and supports the warzone feel. There's nothing objectively wrong with it. You could argue that full destruction would be more immersive, but that requires complete renovation of gameplay and has a heavy processing demand. And as you've been shown before countless times in this thread, destruction of the K2 environment CAN in fact alter play because certain types of cover can be destroyed, etc. Obviously it doesn't do much, but fuck. I'll take all the bells and whistles i can. Won't you?
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Half way towards my magnum!
but I'm just curious what you think of the game.jett said:
Had some great moments in Blood Gulch fighting across the bridge. Managed to stave off ISA attackers trying to come upstairs across the bridge by crouching by the sandbag and shooting them through the windows. I could hear their voice chat as they died on the bridge or in that room "guys he's up there! across the bridge" "behind the sandbag." Up comes a soldier with a machine gun and they start blasting away. Before I know it, my cover is gone, managed to kill that machine gunner but 2 more ran across the bridge and I got shotgunned in the face.
Yes, destroyable cover, not a lot but definitely has some game altering moments
I'm not going to comment on gameplay specifics, but I will say this - the overall package is very impressive. Some smart decision making on what to scale back in order to push the envelope forward in other areas - and some of the most cohesive art direction I've ever seen in a shooter.
Rapping Granny
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bishoptl said:
You played SP?
makingmusic476
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Just wait. I'm writing some lengthy impressions for a website that should be going up over the next 1-2 days.Snipes424 said:
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
WTF at shooting a circle to fall down to a lower level, thats just fucking stupid and impossible, guys seen to many bad movies.
anonymousAversa
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Hahaha sorry Fersis, Ted Price is not in that presentation.
(You're a chick, right?)
(You're a chick, right?)
Kydd BlaZe
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Oh man, just watched the Helghan trailer in HD.
KNOCKED. MY. SOCKS. OFF.
Fuck, I need another PS3. Made the mistake of selling my shit, a few months back. I'm flat broke at the moment, but hopefully i'll conjure up the cash for a new PS3 by Feb.
KNOCKED. MY. SOCKS. OFF.
Fuck, I need another PS3. Made the mistake of selling my shit, a few months back. I'm flat broke at the moment, but hopefully i'll conjure up the cash for a new PS3 by Feb.
Mr.Potato Head said:
The PS3 is obviously not a DX10 high end PC with 4GB RAM, no console is. There's no point trying to compare anything on console to Crysis.
Gears of War 2 does NOT in a MILLION FUCKING YEARS give Crysis a run for its money.
Gears of War 2 does NOT give Killzone 2 a run for its money either, because it can't even do fucking proper shadows (outside of characters and very few objects) in MP WITH FEWER PLAYERS, SMALLER MAPS, AND LESS INTERACTIVITY, technically it's not even in the same league, heck it doesn't even do proper shadows in SINGLE PLAYER.
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Killzone 2 throws quite a lot of physical geometry around on screen. I wouldn't have believed it was possible on a console with limited RAM until I saw it in action.
I'm still not sure how they do it when all other console FPS games clearly have a ceiling which limits their environment geometry.
I'm still not sure how they do it when all other console FPS games clearly have a ceiling which limits their environment geometry.
YES YOU CAN.jett said:Oh he's just shooting the breakable windows.
Did you throw a grenade at it?
You can destroy sandbags.
And even if the destruction is only cosmetic....how would that not affect gameplay?
I know if im running around or behind cover and I see a wall being torn up right next to me, im gonna get scared or check around. It adds to the tension/immersion.
But the destruction isnt just cosmetic. Even if it doesnt affect gamelay ALL THAT MUCH.
There's been a few situations but its not a main focus.
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UntoldDreams said:
Lots of money, lots of time and some extremely talented coders.
FFObsessed said::lol Well, 11th isn't 1st!
Now now, I've used rifles more than twice as long as Missile Weapons, and now play the majority of the time with teh Sniper. And as Jett will tell you I'm pretty awesome!
In fact I had my best moment in an online game EVER with the Rocket Launcher... let me tell you a little story...
It was a "Warzone" game on Radec Academy, 24 players, perfect amount. The game was close the whole time, I was playing with a shotgun as the Engineer class and was struggling, well, not having my best game. But my team was even worse I was surprised it was pretty equal so far as the other team seemed pretty competent. But it was the last round, the decider, and we had to plant charges on a Seek and Destroy match, we were Helghast fighting the invading ISA scum.
It was a real war of attrition for almost four minutes, most of my team didn't seem interested so we just had to wear them down slowly throughout the round. Eventually we managed to push them back and plant 2 charges! I didn't think we'd last long after that and I was right the 3 of us that were left fighting for it got killed pretty quickly. I didn't want to give up tho, it's the Helghast blood in my veins! So I quickly switched to Assault class so I could boost over there as fast as I could and at the very least blow them to pieces before the end of the game. I killed some guy on the way so I only had two rockets by the time I got back to the room where we placed the charges. Luckily some of my team had kept them from diffusing the bombs, but as I got there our last man fell, and the bombs began to be diffused...
It was all down to me and my Rocket Launcher. I strafed past the door and fired a rocket at where the charges were set... BAM! 4 KILLS with one shot! Not only were there two guys diffusing, there were two guys guarding them standing right there! mwaha! And the "chirp" sound quadruples when you get that, incredibly satisfying. But it wasn't over there I still had like 30-40 seconds to defend these charges and it was just me and one rocket, so I wait... there's silence at first, not a sound. It feels like I waited for an eternity, but it was only 5 seconds. Then through the broken wall came two ISA, I fired quickly and BAM direct hit.... 4 KILLS! There were two coming up behind them as well. Couldn't believe it! But I didn't have time to bask in my own awesomenous, I had a battle to win!
So I drop my blessed Rocket Launcher and picked up the nearest assault rifle. I looked at the hole in the wall and noticed, I was blind! The dust and smoke from the rockets completely covered the entrance. I couldn't see whether ISA troops were coming so I thought "fuck it" I started shooting wildly through the smoke, nothing at first but after a few seconds, *chirp!* one kill! I kept firing, I was almost out of ammo... *chirp* headshot! Another kill! Out of ammo, I desperately ran around looking for a weapon, and eventually found a shotgun near the entrance, now they were coming through, I lobbed a grenade but I threw it too far, it missed them, but it did kill two guys behind them. At that point I just started firing the shotgun in panic but I was missing, I was done... until a team mate finally showed up and picked off a couple of guys I softened up, but I only had a slither of health left and I was finally finished. I had fallen, as did my teammate. With only about 6 seconds left.. I was gutted. All that was left was for them to diffuse the charges.
I spawned quickly and waited for them to diffuse them at the last second but no. The charges blew, a couple of them died in the blast. And we won. I got a 12 kill streak and felt like a god. Best moment ever. I curse myself for not having capture equipment to record, and I pray the final game will have video capture.
Best online shooter ever.
oh and
You dirty team killer
Haha, sounds awesome.
This game has so many moments like that.
Guled said:
I want to play this so much D:
Like I said before, this game does not match Crysis technologically. It is impossible for any current console to do that.
Artistically? It's different, and whether it looks BETTER is a matter of opinion.
I've played Crysis over a dozen times on ultra high, and from what I've seen of this game, to me, it's even more impressive considering the hardware they're running on. Crysis simply brute forces a lot it's effects and geometry. KZ2 uses an amazing level of technical trickery and a scale that seems incredibly tuned to the platform it's designed on. It's that perfect hardware/software synergy along with the incredible aesthetics that just blows me away.
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Tom Penny said:
So how is having partially destructible environments worse than having no destructible environments? I'd rather see a rocket hit a wall and something actually happen, over the lame ass scorch decal.
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EnthusiasTech said:
[whisper]There is no coop in KZ2.[/whisper]
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But Killzone 2 doesn't have anything like the same texture resolution as Gears 2. Ergo, Gears 2 looks better.Kittonwy said:
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Do you have uncircumcised penises hanging out of where your eyes should be?Pojo said:
Because Gears 2 may not be a great looking game but it's at least a good looking game. While R2 has all the visual trappings of the kind of viscous sludge you'd find stuck in the skin hood of an uncircumcised, unwashed, post coital penis.
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