Kestastrophe
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No, that line was taken almost verbatim from the non-reviewBeeDog said:
T. Chick said:
KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW
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EmCeeGramr
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Tom Chick is actually a really good games journalist. Maybe it's just his opinion, and not "trying to get hits."Cruzader said:
the_prime_mover
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Pristine_Condition said:
The demolitions medic is an amazing class choice and is pretty easy to get. With the medics loadout, the ability to revive and lay traps, the demolitions medic is essential for holding down a front line while making sure that your back/choke points are protected.
Once I unlocked C4 this was the class that I used the most (love both ARs), and would only mix it up with the boost pill (combat medic) when we had a weak tactician or while playing search and retrieve.
Warzone and classes are already amazing experiences, but the ability to further customize your class or switch classes and weapons every time you respawn means that if you are bored (for some strange reason), you can just change up your class and it will completely change the way you approach a situation.
Fenderputty
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Who the hell is T.Chick and why should I care about his singular and rather insignificant opinion over all the other rest?
BTW: I don't care if he's known or respected. I say singular and insignificant because he's alone with his opinion and is being overshadowed by the rest.
BTW: I don't care if he's known or respected. I say singular and insignificant because he's alone with his opinion and is being overshadowed by the rest.
Kestastrophe
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"Hey everybody, if we don't look at it, it doesn't exist......"Cruzader said:
Just watched the Gamespot preview, skipped past some of the spoiler parts but listened to most of what Andre' said. Wow.. It's obvious the other guys were trying not to laugh at him. Low res textures, and an "above average FPS" is hilarious. Everyone has different opinions, but I have to ask if he's thinking this is an above average FPS what his top FPS's are?
Chris Remo
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Well, the first half of your post is asking, so do you care or not?Fenderputty said:
(He is a known and respected reviewer who has written for a number of prominent publications.)
SolidC213 said:
There's just a lot of dumb crap overall.
Complaints about the tunnel(which is a fucking amazing section really, looks wise), comparing it to COD in a negative light, the writing.. And the overall tone that he writes with is hyperbolic and bitter-sounding. He makes some good points here and there but overall?
:lol
Pristine_Condition
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Kestastrophe said:
Reading your posts in this thread sounds more like "Hey everybody LOOK AT MEEE!" than anything. But hey, have fun cherry-picking the bad reviews out there, and getting the attention you desire.
And the Tom Chick quote you used was pretty hilariously-bad too.
-So, he says that because every other game has train levels where you do this and do that, that Killzone should do the same thing, yet he complains that since Killzone doesn't do those things that every other game does, it isn't creative?
-And he says there isn't anything "engaging or even moderately interesting" in a game where, in the same paragraph, he says it is "a great looking game," one he begrudgingly, teeth-pullingly admits are "the most technically impressive I've seen on the Playstation 3" (THERE'S OUR FAVORITE "on the PS3" QUALIFICATION STATEMENT AGAIN too, how innovative, Mr. Chick!) "with a hefty combat feel, an intuitive cover system." ...So, according to T. Chick, beautiful graphics, a hefty combat feel, and in intuitive cover system suddenly aren't "engaging or even moderately interesting" elements? Since when?
Seriously, the logic holes contained in this article are the only things larger than the piles of Killzone 2's editorial accolades.
Sometime Tom Chick's stuff is OK. Sometime I think he's just playing a bit part as "the internet's curmudgeon." This is probably one of those times.
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But hey, now both you and T. Chick got the attention you need...can we move on?
MvmntInGrn
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EschatonDX said:
This. I don't care whether he is respected or not that was a poorly written review and a chance to throw in rehearsed remarks more than anything else.
Choke on the Magic
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KTallguy said:
Dante said::lol @ his train quote.....They should have gone by the Helghan coast...I hear it's lovely this time of year
Oh and any chance at a 12:01AM demo tonight?
The worst part is that he praises games like FC2 and CoD4/WaW when they don't particularly offer any revelations in level design
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MvmntInGrn
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Pristine_Condition said:
PC World said:
In a way I can see what he is saying but most every FPS can be explained in this way. COD, Resistance, and even Bioshock. Not saying Killzone 2 couldn't have done more but when your in the game (for me at least) I don't find any of the above shooters overly linear or lacking in objectives since they keep the action going enough. I notice it upon reflection but that means nothing to me if I don't notice it while I play.
PC World said:
The heal thing is kind of expected. In games you need a way to fail, if your teammates keep healing you there is no challenge, issues like this can be seen in the new Prince of Persia (overly frequent checkpoints and no punishment for death) and Battlefield: Bad Company(even if you die you just respawn, only downside is you have to walk back a bit). It can lead to a less rewarding experience.
As for the guns, I agree. Even if you cannot have the weapon the whole time (for balancing reasons or something) try to show it a few times over the course of the game.
InterMoniker
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She looks like she is about to pass out from one too many perkesets. I guess it eases the pain.Choke on the Magic said:
InterMoniker
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good 4 u! :lolDirtbag said:
MvmntInGrn said:
I think it's a reference to the evolving PC shooter market. Nowadays shooters like Far Cry 2, Crysis, STALKER, Fallout, and RAGE are what's considered pushing the genre forward in terms of overall design... I suppose one could consider K2 behind the curve in that regard.
CrushDance
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I can't believe Remo is defending that review with the foul language and dumb commentary.
dollartaco
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I know who Tom Chick is and he's a dick. I'm doing it right. People take him seriously for no good reason--he hasn't contributed anything to games journalism other than dense prose, although that makes him "legitimate" in some way. I wouldn't even have made a comment in this thread had it not been for his name popping up.
Fenderputty
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Chris Remo said:
The first part was me speaking rhetorically while the second part was me clarifying what I meant.
Tideas said:
I knew someone would say that. But hell, Fallout isn't that great in any particular area IMO. You have to say, it's very comparable to the modern open world shooter. Customizable weaponry, nonlinear approach, etc.. The only difference is that it falls more on the RPG side.
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P.S.
http://fidgit.com/archives/2008/12/the-top-10-games-of-2008.php
Chick's top 10 games of 2008
10) The Club
9) Sacred 2
8) Multiwinia
7) Midnight Club Los Angeles
6) Patapon
5) EndWar
4) Fallout 3
3) Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
2) Saints Row 2
1) Far Cry 2
So, there you go. Ann Coulter of gaming.
http://fidgit.com/archives/2008/12/the-top-10-games-of-2008.php
Chick's top 10 games of 2008
10) The Club
9) Sacred 2
8) Multiwinia
7) Midnight Club Los Angeles
6) Patapon
5) EndWar
4) Fallout 3
3) Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
2) Saints Row 2
1) Far Cry 2
So, there you go. Ann Coulter of gaming.
MvmntInGrn
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EschatonDX said:
There is a sort of branching off to FPS IMO.
KZ2 is a COD, Resistance, Halo kind of shooter. (Action oriented)
Bioshock, Half-Life, F.E.A.R is another kind. (Story plays larger role)
Far Cry 2, Crysis is yet another kind. (More open world feel)
Behind the curve if you compare it to a shooter of another type, but arguably (by reviews) head of the curve for the type of shooter I would group it with.
Thats just how I see it.
EDIT: And even then I can see F.E.A.R in the action-y category. In a way "Genre" in general is becoming less and less applicable to games, so many cross boundaries. Sometimes I feel reviews judge the game to their favorite FPS, even if KZ2 was never going for that in the first place.
Pristine_Condition
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CrushDance said:
In fairness, I think he's defending the person, not the lame article. Ease up on Remo, he's probably just sticking up for a buddy/colleague. Remo seems like a pretty solid guy. I'd do the same, even if one of my buddies got drunk and did something stupid in public, or something like that.
(Sorry for yelling)Annihilator
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This Tom Dick guy and Andrei from gamespot should hook up for tea or something. After reading and hearing there comments on KZ2 it sounds like they are made for each other. Oh yea also throw in that guy from UGO..russ I think..who compared the campaign to COD 3. COD 3 campaign was not good at all.
plagiarize
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i get it. that's you talking about the good reviews right?Kestastrophe said:
interesting to see that you've started taking negative reviews seriously again since Last Remnant.
KZObsessed
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Sam Bishop's Review 9/10
Says he hates the controls though as there is no aim assist...
Give it a read: http://totalplaystation.com/ps3/killzone-2/reviews/8166/1
Oh Mr. Bishop... sounds like you just suck, rather that there being a problem with the controls. Well, obviously it would be a problem for you but I thought the controls in the Beta were perfect and exactly what I've been looking for. Shame you didn't like them
I thought your review was very well written tho.
Says he hates the controls though as there is no aim assist...
Give it a read: http://totalplaystation.com/ps3/killzone-2/reviews/8166/1
Oh Mr. Bishop... sounds like you just suck, rather that there being a problem with the controls. Well, obviously it would be a problem for you but I thought the controls in the Beta were perfect and exactly what I've been looking for. Shame you didn't like them
I thought your review was very well written tho.
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