I'm admittedly not much of an FPS gamer, but I wasn't feeling this demo. I suppose I can see its appeal, though. I'm more alarmed because I'm not seeing too much of a reason to keep my PS3. At this point, the only PS3-exclusive I'm keeping it for is Tekken 6 (I know, not a great series, but I'm a fan...).
KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW
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Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Tekken 6 isn't PS3 exclusive.BIG BUBBA said:
Danne-Danger
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Then you better sell it now bub. :>BIG BUBBA said:
I heard you also had to cancel your Ratchet and Clank preorder?
Zedsdeadbaby
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BIG BUBBA said:
This is just like that bit where the doctor walks to the apprehensive waiting family to tell them the bad news. :lol
NameGenerated said:
When the hell was this announced? Is it like a 6 month PS3 exclusive or anything?
Whatever, I'll keep my PS3 for Blurays, I guess. I think I'm just sick of gaming in general. Only thing I'm looking forward to on any system is the next Punch Out.
edit: And people shouldn't take my post as like, an indictment of Killzone. I'm definitely not an FPS guy. Halo is pretty fun, but mainly because it's so wacky.
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PowderedToast said:
It's probably the most generic part of the entire game. It's the opening parts practically.
They are obviously saving the good stuff for later.
If there was a Gears of War 2 demo of the intro hospital level, I would have never bought it.
itsinmyveins
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RockmanWhore said:
No, it'd mean that instead of just holding it down you press once to "attach" and once to let go. There's no real difference there. But like I said, it's not that much of a deal if you play on the standard controller setup. But if you change it and use L1 for aiming, then it's awful.
Y2Kev said:
I'm not sure what you mean?
That WOULD be cool, but only if there were no performance hit. I still believe that this recording feature is precisely why Halo 3 suffered from CONSTANT framerate stuttering. It was very subtle (most people wouldn't notice it), but it annoyed the hell out of me. It wasn't really slowdown, just...minor stuttering.
The way motion is handled in KZ2 is insane, however. I mean, it's actually MORE impressive than the motion blur in Crysis in that it is literally applied to EVERYTHING. It is more selective in Crysis. When you take down a shed, you'll see it, but when a vehicle drives by at a high speed, you won't. KZ2 literally handles all motion with high quality motion blur. If a vehicle simply moves quickly through the sky it blurs. Any fast motion demonstrates this effect (animation or otherwise). I don't know how the hell they pulled it off so nicely, but it gives the game an almost CG-like feel.
The post processing is simply out of this world overall. Really elevates the visuals to a new level. Hopefully other developers take a close look at some of the techniques used in KZ2 and attempt to duplicate them.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I calls 'em like I sees 'em.
H_Prestige
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I'm starting to like the standard sensitivity now. Might even try it lower than normal.
Private Hoffman
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Dani said:
Why don't you go play the first 10 minutes of every other game you own and see if you would buy any of them based upon the first 10 minutes.
It's like the same people that shrugged off Uncharted because of its demo. Ridiculous. The demo only serves to show you how the game handles mechanically. It does not give you the rest of the levels which will have more intensity and color; it does not give you the multiplayer...
Facism said:
He already knows that. Nice subtle troll though.
ninjavanish
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.GqueB. said:
Hey Kerning, I see you're slowly turning into a gaffer too. Damn 1up games board just isn't as lively anymore.
If you think this is bad you must have died trying to dogfight in warhawk. Boosting after a bogey (double tap R2) while peppering him with machine guns (R1), attaining a missle lock (L1) while also powersliding through a tunnel carved through a mountain (L2 + R2).
Cat in the Hat
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Fuck me it looks better than i thought, played through it 4 times. Brilliant fucking game, and the title menu music is ace. Reminds me of uncharted's music
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I thought it was too slow, then I bumped it up 1 notch and thought that was too fast. I wish there was like 1 in between.H_Prestige said:
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Private Hoffman said:
If demo doesn't give me an accurate idea of what the game will be like when it hits retail, then why bother making it?
Seriously, wise up, the demo is suppose to give you an idea of how the game will play and look.
Plus, I already said that I am interested in the multiplayer, it's a different beast.
So, I've gone through the demo 3/4 times now
Well my first complaint, as with so many others, is the controls. I've given it a fair chance, and they're just no good. I don't understand why developers still limit the control customisation options in games.
What's wrong with letting people create a button layout that suits them, rather than going by a handful of presets?
What use is an aiming sensitivity option when there's no control over acceleration or deadzone?
Due to the stupid acceleration setting in Killzone, the aiming feels very sluggish and it makes it difficult to make small corrections to your aiming.
Visually I'm a bit unsure about the game really, it's very bland. Ok, I realise it's a war, but it's just so dark and grey and boring.
The lighting is nice in places, but they seem to have gone out of their way to make it as annoying as possible, by having it bloom out whenever it's close to where you're aiming, and putting lens flares all over the screen. Maybe it's just me, but if I were fighting in a war and for whatever reason I'm getting lots of glare/lens flare like that, I'd be swapping out my helmet for one without a visor asap.
It's also very soft looking, which I don't particularly like. I don't know if that's QAA at work or not, but I'd much rather have a sharp, aliased game than a soft looking one with smooth edges.
They also seem to really like motion blur. You hardly have to move at all and everything on the screen blurs. I'm also not sure if it even is a proper motion blur effect they're using. On the guns it seems like it might be, but it looks like it could just be using a general blur on the screen when you're panning around, similar to what Uncharted did.
I understand that using effects like depth of field, blooming, motion blur etc. make the game look good in videos, but it's just annoying when you're trying to actually play a game.
There also seemed to be quite a lot of small objects/detail popping in during the demo. Strangely, a lot of those objects fade out smoothly at a distance rather than just disappearing, so I'm wondering if it's maybe a bug that has them popping in rather than fading in smoothly. (though it's still pretty noticeable)
The level design seemed really restrictive, with invisible barriers all over the place. The lip-syncing also seemed to be really bad, when playing in English at least.
As for gameplay, I don't know what it is specifically, but it just didn't click with me at all, just felt very average. A lot like the first Resistance actually I don't understand why so many people were in love with it either. I know I'll get eaten alive for saying it, but I do wonder sometimes if it's the average Playstation owner's limited experience with/exposure to FPS games that has them get overrated like this.
Oh, and I hate the cover system. Not only is it not that effective, it means you end up sticking to walls if you're crouching. Should have put it on another button.
For people suggesting crouch toggle, it would be nice, but as the crouch button is also the cover button, I'm not sure how well it would work.
Well my first complaint, as with so many others, is the controls. I've given it a fair chance, and they're just no good. I don't understand why developers still limit the control customisation options in games.
What's wrong with letting people create a button layout that suits them, rather than going by a handful of presets?
What use is an aiming sensitivity option when there's no control over acceleration or deadzone?
Due to the stupid acceleration setting in Killzone, the aiming feels very sluggish and it makes it difficult to make small corrections to your aiming.
Visually I'm a bit unsure about the game really, it's very bland. Ok, I realise it's a war, but it's just so dark and grey and boring.
The lighting is nice in places, but they seem to have gone out of their way to make it as annoying as possible, by having it bloom out whenever it's close to where you're aiming, and putting lens flares all over the screen. Maybe it's just me, but if I were fighting in a war and for whatever reason I'm getting lots of glare/lens flare like that, I'd be swapping out my helmet for one without a visor asap.
It's also very soft looking, which I don't particularly like. I don't know if that's QAA at work or not, but I'd much rather have a sharp, aliased game than a soft looking one with smooth edges.
They also seem to really like motion blur. You hardly have to move at all and everything on the screen blurs. I'm also not sure if it even is a proper motion blur effect they're using. On the guns it seems like it might be, but it looks like it could just be using a general blur on the screen when you're panning around, similar to what Uncharted did.
I understand that using effects like depth of field, blooming, motion blur etc. make the game look good in videos, but it's just annoying when you're trying to actually play a game.
There also seemed to be quite a lot of small objects/detail popping in during the demo. Strangely, a lot of those objects fade out smoothly at a distance rather than just disappearing, so I'm wondering if it's maybe a bug that has them popping in rather than fading in smoothly. (though it's still pretty noticeable)
The level design seemed really restrictive, with invisible barriers all over the place. The lip-syncing also seemed to be really bad, when playing in English at least.
As for gameplay, I don't know what it is specifically, but it just didn't click with me at all, just felt very average. A lot like the first Resistance actually I don't understand why so many people were in love with it either. I know I'll get eaten alive for saying it, but I do wonder sometimes if it's the average Playstation owner's limited experience with/exposure to FPS games that has them get overrated like this.
Oh, and I hate the cover system. Not only is it not that effective, it means you end up sticking to walls if you're crouching. Should have put it on another button.
Index finger on L1, middle finger on L2. How terribly difficult.-viper- said:
For people suggesting crouch toggle, it would be nice, but as the crouch button is also the cover button, I'm not sure how well it would work.
Private Hoffman
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Facism said:
No, no, you misread me.
His Tekken 6 comment was a nice subtle troll.
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