KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW

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alterno69 said:
I would LOVE a no respawn option for sure.
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I don't believe it would work because you're then limiting tacticians since they can't use their spawn points to control the action on the map, and also for spawn on squad.
 
MvmntInGrn said:
Just curious. That set up would usher in completely different play style though I would imagine.
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I don't think it would be possible. The Tactician, for example, would be useless.

But then again I also proposed no-respawns for specific missions types. Like when Assassination starts, game goes into "no-respawn mode" and then reverts to free respawn in the next type of mission. They could also add a Last Man Standing interpretation of Body Count.

I loved COD4 for this reason. It had both. Search and Destroy was my fav mode.
 
TTP said:
I'll never understand what some people find entertaining about that kind of mess. I mean, you don't even play. You just propel yourself into a grinder, die and re-spawn. I'm definitely with JB1981 on this. I even complained on the beta forums multiple times. Devs simply say like "if you dont like the mess, lower the player cap when u create a game". Hmm, ok. Problem is I'm afraid people will see "16" and not join, believing "32" is where the fun is. I have seen a bunch of friends of mine (which I showed the beta to) coming away TOTALLY UNIMPRESSED and a bit DISGUSTED by what they saw in the 32ppl rooms. I think this 32 shit will backfire.
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If this is the case I think it's something your going to have to get over. Ultimately the players will decide, not GG. If 32 doesn't work well for the majority of players, no one will play with it.

Choice > No choice
 
^Agreed...
I would be very disappointed if there's no option at all for non-respawn matches.
Personally I prefer shooters with no respawn, because it forces players to be more methodical and not just run & gun. Also, it gives you a chance to appreciate the spectator mode. ;)

Since I have not played the beta I can't say what impact this would have on the classes, but the suggestion to offer this on specific game types sounds plausible...
 
G-Bus said:
If this is the case I think it's something your going to have to get over. Ultimately the players will decide, not GG. If 32 doesn't work well for the majority of players, no one will play with it.

Choice > No choice
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Well, give me the choice to disable respawn then :P
 
NameIess said:
^Agreed...
I would be very disappointed if there's no option at all for non-respawn matches.
Personally I prefer shooters with no respawn, because it forces players to be more methodical and not just run & gun. Also, it gives you a chance to appreciate the spectator mode. ;)

Since I have not played the beta I can't say what impact this would have on the classes, but the suggestion to offer this on specific game types sounds plausible...
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Besides, was KZ2 a non-respawn game with a lower number of players I'm 100% sure the Lean and Peak mechanic (which is awesome btw) would have worked and stayed in making KZ2 a more unique game.
 
TTP said:
Besides, was KZ2 a non-respawn game with a lower number of players I'm 100% sure the Lean and Peak mechanic (which is awesome btw) would have worked and stayed in making KZ2 a more unique game.
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Then it would have been TOO unique...and we all know how journalists hate their games to be TOO unique.
 
mr_nothin said:
Then it would have been TOO unique...and we all know how journalists hate their games to be TOO unique.
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People in the game right now are simply too fast for the lean and peak to work.
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mr_nothin said:
Then it would have been TOO unique...and we all know how journalists hate their games to be TOO unique.
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But they loved Gears of War no? That's very unique. And also, the L&P doesnt really limit your movements as much as you might think. You can even rotate 360 degrees while still attached to a wall, so no problems shooting behind you either.

Kittonwy said:
People in the game right now are simply too fast for the lean and peak to work.
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Well, they are fast cos they know they have infinite lives.
 
Would be pretty cool to see a round based objective mode (TDM, etc) with no respawns and the cover mechanic thrown in.

For online tournaments and the like, this would be ideal IMO.
 
the_prime_mover said:
I love all the detail you can see in spectator mode (like reloading and gun switching). This engine seems very versatile. With everything in place I would think that we will probably see a TPS very soon that is using this engine. Sony will probably let KZ2 release before unveiling anything - so probably at some convention next year we will see the first videos. I would like Uncharted to use some of this tech, but I can't really wrap my head around the differences in art style (and don't know enough about what art elements an engine is limited to) - so perhaps I should hope for a different franchise (thinking about this engine and that 8 days cover animation video). Obviously this engine can also handle multiplayer at 32 players, so something like Gears 2 with 10 players should be more then doable.
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Killzone Engine + Syphon Filter BELIEVE
:D :D :D
 
Well they could have a mode like that where it would be a one life round, just turn off the tactician primary badge for that round, and people that are tacticians transitioning get turned into a badge of their choosing, available for selection for 30 seconds, otherwise they have to sit it out.
 
AmMortal said:
The third image looks amazing, i can't believe people were criticising the textures.
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you know who those people are......by the way, I haven't seen chespace around to give the usual negative feedback on a sony exclusive game.
 
lol people already planning what GG engine should be used for next.

Lets get through KZ2 with KZ2 engine first :lol

Though Syphon Filter would work well... Really though I want sony to make a first party RPG, its the only genre they don't really have their own title in.
 
Wollan said:
SingStar with KZ2 engine. Shiii...!
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lol, too bad HD isn't in that game's vocabulary except in menus, and horrible American support. Hope the GG devs come through with crazy support like Criterion does for Burnout ^_^
 
Killzone 2 environments: "not just grey urban wasteland"
Speaking on the Official PlayStation forums, Guerrilla Games Q&Q Manager Seb Downie promised users, "[Helgan] is not just grey urban wasteland."

Downie's comments go with EGM's August issue Killzone 2 preview, which states that some levels will highlight the "natural beauty" of Helghan. While this doesn’t mean that you’ll be taking in grassy hills and crystal blue oceans, it does serve as an indication that players will get a chance to venture outside of the grey cities and tackle different environments than what's been shown in the trailers.
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http://www.psu.com/Killzone-2-envir...y-urban-wasteland+quot;-News--a0005551-p0.php
 
MvmntInGrn said:
lol people already planning what GG engine should be used for next.

Lets get through KZ2 with KZ2 engine first :lol

Though Syphon Filter would work well... Really though I want sony to make a first party RPG, its the only genre they don't really have their own title in.
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WKC?
 
Fersis said:
I loved the cherry trees in KZ1
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This reminded me of this:

Fool's Garden said:
I'm sitting here in the boring room
It's just another rainy Sunday afternoon
I'm wasting my time
I got nothing to do
I'm hanging around
I'm waiting for you
But nothing ever happens and I wonder

I'm driving around in my car
I'm driving too fast
I'm driving too far
I'd like to change my point of view
I feel so lonely
I'm waiting for you
But nothing ever happens and I wonder

I wonder how
I wonder why
Yesterday you told me 'bout the blue blue sky
And all that I can see is just a yellow lemon-tree
I'm turning my head up and down
I'm turning turning turning turning turning around
And all that I can see is just another lemon-tree

I'm sitting here
I miss the power
I'd like to go out taking a shower
But there's a heavy cloud inside my head
I feel so tired
Put myself into bed
Well, nothing ever happens and I wonder

Isolation is not good for me
Isolation I don't want to sit on the lemon-tree

I'm steppin' around in the desert of joy
Baby anyhow I'll get another toy
And everything will happen and you wonder

I wonder how
I wonder why
Yesterday you told me 'bout the blue blue sky
And all that I can see is just another lemon-tree
I'm turning my head up and down
I'm turning turning turning turning turning around
And all that I can see is just a yellow lemon-tree
And I wonder, wonder

I wonder how
I wonder why
Yesterday you told me 'bout the blue blue sky
And all that I can see, and all that I can see, and all that I can see
Is just a yellow lemon-tree
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KZ2 theme song? Epic.
 
FirewalkR said:
It's SO close. Only three more days, can you guys feel it???
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Too long, can you feel it, too long, oh can you feel it
Too long, can you feel it, too long, oh can you feel it
Too long, can you feel it, too long, oh can you feel it
Too long, can you feel it, too long, oh can you feel it
Too long, can you feel it, too long, oh can you feel it
Too long, can you feel it, too long, oh can you feel it
Too long, can you feel it, too long, oh can you feel it
Too long, can you feel it, too long, oh can you feel it

:D
 
It would be awesome if Sony created a Western RPG creation team and used this engine to make a game. Deep western rpg with production values on par with God of War!
 
AmMortal said:
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Knowing Sony the embargo likely lifts at 11:59pm on Dec. 4 so likely nothing til Dec. 5 :D

Sony - "OK you can show SP content but no new areas/enemies/story components"
Media - "Well that leaves only the content we have now"
Sony - "Ya better hold off on that too"
 
So the ammount of awesomesauce has been confirmed ?
Like 50% or 80% awesome ? I dont think that the PS3 can handle more than 70% awesomeness.. the bluray is too slow to stream awesomsauce...
Maybe installing data can reach an awesomeness of 75% .. but i doubt it.
:D

EDIT: Everytime i see a new screenshot the awesomeness make me more stupid :lol
 
mr_nothin said:
Hopefully they add that in there.

I think it would work best if they didnt allow you to respawn until the next Mission Objective came up. You died in body count but then you can spawn when Capture and Hold starts.
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I can already imagine.. everyone goes sniper/cloak... 5 minutes of *yawn*
 
I must say guys, this game is fucking fun. No if's and nor buts. This is the first online shooter that I actually love playing, even though I'm not the best. Well, I'm ok I guess. Ya boy put in work. Slayed a few GAF players on last night in a few really intense 32 player matches. Also I must say that I disagree with those that say the Helgan has a disadvantage because of their glowing red eyes, because I had my ass handed to me last night by them :lol

The ISA is just as easily spotted by that glowing neon green/blue light on their shoulders/armor. The game get so much more fun when everyone is leveling up, and using all the different classes. Its a fucking warzone. My neighbor came knocking on the door wondering if I there were gun fire going off in my crib.:lol

With that said, those knuckle heads that spawn camp with the rocket launcher is laughable. I always take the alternate route and 1up them from behind. There so busy killing themselves and their teammates that they're not paying attention to those coming from behind. I get alot of points this way.

In addition, I disagree with those that say they should be no respawn. I actually hate games that when you die thats it. I guess I am more of a casual online shooter player. I just want to have fun. Even when I get owned, as long as its because of skill and not cheap shots. It makes it much more entertaining, that I can jump right back in and seek revenge. Man this game rocks.
 
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