KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW
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SolidSnakex
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Die Squirrel Die said:
I'd much rather they just include what they feel is ready to go instead of trying to plug more modes in just to please a few journalists that feel they deserve every FPS mode under the sun.
Cheers for the vids TTP - superb quality as always. It really does look excellent and I hope I get a key for this 
The only wierdness i've noticed is the enemy reaction times to getting hit/blown up is way off. At one point (think it's the 2nd vid) the some dude is literally standing there for 2+ seconds after an rpg goes off next to him before starting to go down. That defo needs to be sorted.
The only wierdness i've noticed is the enemy reaction times to getting hit/blown up is way off. At one point (think it's the 2nd vid) the some dude is literally standing there for 2+ seconds after an rpg goes off next to him before starting to go down. That defo needs to be sorted.
TTP said:
One thing I loved about you're video's is the fact that iron sights are used correctly in this game. R2 was a major disappointment in terms of not actually looking down the barrel of the rifle. It really bothered me that they don't actually use the sights on the gun in R2. K2 gets it right, and I think I'll end up using iron sights more in certain situations because of it.
TTP, I'm not sure if you have had the chance to use the sniper rifle in K2, but if you have can you tell us what you think of it? I just hope it isn't like the Fareye in R2 where if you aim at someone and another person runs by it automatically shifts to the guy running by. Its just something I find really annoying.
Great video's by the way!
Private Hoffman
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SolidSnakex said:
I agree with this. I never understood why co-op play was such a required feature for every game.
Most of the time it just cheapens the experience by making it easier.
Private Hoffman
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Firewire said:
There is no auto-aim with the sniper.
Controlling the sniper is amazing btw
when you zoom in and you move left and right, you get the proper momentum shift of the gun. It's not a static HUD like it is in a game like R2.
Split-screen in Killzone 1 was the best thing about the game. I loved playing two-player DM or TDM with the bots.Wax Free Vanilla said:it better have split local multi-player and bots - 2 v 8 in killzone one was
They MUST have split-screen in K2. The bots are there.. they just need the split-screen and then it's the best shooter ever.
Uncharted 2 is going to be 09? There are a lot of good PS3 exclusives this year, Heavy Rain, InFamous, GT5, GOW3 are all going to be great. But I think I'll like KZ2 the most of them.Fizzle said:
Halo 3: Recon will be massive as well of course, but I meant PS3 exclusives.
EDIT: That's based on the assumption Trico doesn't make out in '09.
Private Hoffman
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RoboPlato said:
No there aren't unfortunately
it takes a long time to level up enough to get the sniper. it's one of the last classes you get
You guys can say you dont care about co-op and say its not crucial to FPS's but you know your going to be the ones that bitch when KZ2 gets lower scores than you think it should. Im calling it, it doesnt matter how good and awesome it is and how much better it looks than every other game out or coming out, if it ships without co-op it will be docked.
If reviewers can bitch about the narration in R1 and then bitch that its not there in R2 what do you think is going to happen to KZ2 with no co-op?
Anyway game looks shit hot, ive been sending .gifs to friends.
If reviewers can bitch about the narration in R1 and then bitch that its not there in R2 what do you think is going to happen to KZ2 with no co-op?
Anyway game looks shit hot, ive been sending .gifs to friends.
Private Hoffman
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Fizzle said:
Unless Uncharted 2 has multiplayer modes, it'll do well but not AMAZINGLY so. Certainly better than the original, but don't expect huge numbers.
Killzone 2 likely will be the biggest exclusive title of 2009
I used to doubt this game since I just hate hype. But after reading all the comments and watching all the videos I am pretty much 100% sure that this will be a great game.
My friends and I really need something else for our FPS Multiplayer fix. COD4 has just become to easy I think. Playing headquarters and S&D is not a challenge anymore, we mostly goof around.
My friends and I really need something else for our FPS Multiplayer fix. COD4 has just become to easy I think. Playing headquarters and S&D is not a challenge anymore, we mostly goof around.
Private Hoffman
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captive said:
Oh, I will bitch if the game gets lower scores because it doesn't have co-op. Because that's a deeply flawed line of thinking. Just because game X has co-op doesn't mean that game Y needs it. Opinions differ on the subject, and perhaps the developers believed that their resources should be allocated more towards polishing up the online component than throwing on a tacked on 4 player mode. Given how damn impressive KZ2's online is, and how much more important it is in terms of longevity compared to a co-op mode, I can see why they would want to spend most of their resources towards competitive play.
In terms of gameplay, I honestly won't miss the feature. *MY* co-op experience is through the multiplayer modes and not the single player.
SolidSnakex
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captive said:
I think GG learned their lesson with KZ1 that lack of polish can hurt a game far more than a single game mode.
asclepio_gtr
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skulpt said:From one of the newer trailers that I posted a while back:
The sparks, lighting, heat distortion..... 'drools'......
Doombringer?
Die Squirrel Die
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stuburns said:
I would reckon Uncharted 2 would be a safer bet for 09 than GoW3. While not quite at an Insomniac pace, Naughty Dog have a pretty good reputation for timely turnarounds on development, plus they've got an engine in place.
Also GoW has a tradition of being a March release.
plus FFXIII Demo / RE5 - MarchRavenFox said:
inFAMOUS - April
GT5 / Heavy Rain / Uncharted 2 and maybe Jak & Daxter 4
TRICO: Please be 09
White Knight Chronicles: NA / EU
The Protector / Warhawk 2 / MAG
Ratchet & Clank Future 2
BBC Game: Might be from Liverpool, London or Cambridge studios
Eye Pet: Late 09 when the PS3 is $279 for the mass market
God of War III: December 09 * i hopes*
2009 the year of gotta get a job
travisbickle
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Wow those rocket launchers are loud.
SolidSnakex
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travisbickle said:
Which is a good thing, because anytime you hear them you know to start running.
asclepio_gtr
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Private Hoffman said:
Coop sometimes leads to compromise the SP experience... That's why R2 has it's own coop campaign.
Private Hoffman said:
Awesome thanx for the info!
captive said:
I'm sure theres going to be bitching. But realistically I wouldn't want the to do co-op if it took resources away from both the campaign and multiplayer. And it most likely would have, if they did add co-op I'm not sure we would be looking at the same visually awesome game in either campaign or multi.
Great videos TTP, just wanted to ask anybody in teh Beta a few questions. Firstly, when getting a kill with a headshot, does it display that you got a headshot on the kill list in the bottom left hand corner?
Secondly, my favourite online game ever was Battlefield 2 on PC. To me what made it so fun was how all guns had to be unlocked. How long does it take roughly to achieve an unlock in KZ2 and how big is the selection of guns?
I am really glad GG decided to create a selection of weaponry that seems realistic. As much as some people love diverse weaponry with CRAZY secondary fire modes, I much prefer guns that look and feel like actual guns.
Secondly, my favourite online game ever was Battlefield 2 on PC. To me what made it so fun was how all guns had to be unlocked. How long does it take roughly to achieve an unlock in KZ2 and how big is the selection of guns?
I am really glad GG decided to create a selection of weaponry that seems realistic. As much as some people love diverse weaponry with CRAZY secondary fire modes, I much prefer guns that look and feel like actual guns.
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Are the TTP videos on Blim's site better than the previous videos that we seen from the other sites within the last 3 days?
SolidSnakex
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-ARNiE- said:
If you get a headshot it'll show a picture of a head as well as your name, your weapon and the person you killed.
H_Prestige
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Kyoufu said:
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SolidSnakex
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Tom Penny said:
It's fair. If someone noscopes the sniper and misses you then you should have no problem killing them before they're even able to get off another shot. You also don't have many shots with the sniper rifle, so you can't really afford to just be firing like that.
You guys are getting me wrong. Personally I love the idea of online coop, in practice however its a challenge to even get a game of online madden going with friends, coop through a campaign? Forget about it.Firewire said:
I play single player campaign and online multiplayer. So for me a game having coop or not isnt an issue at all.
What I was saying though is the apparent different standards some ps3 exclusives are held to.
There is auto-aim for sniper, kinda.Private Hoffman said:
If you're zoomed out and you go in the area of the enemy and zoom it...it will zoom in, in his direction. But after that, you're on your own. Sniping is pretty hard but once it clicks...it's deadly. Especially with the cloak and spot/mark.
KZObsessed
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Tom Penny said:
They've made it less accurate to do that now.
Speaking of Snipers, I just had a 100 point game playing as one. Completely dominated. I sucked as a Sniper at first which depressed me because he looks so awesome, but I put some time into it and I've become quite decent.
Can still have an off game now and again but it's great.That's what I love about this game, it's so accessible for everyone. You can suck at first but if you put a lot of time into it, anyone can become decent and yet it still needs a lot of skill to become one of the best players.
There's been so many FPS's that no matter what, I always got my ass kicked, with this, you put the time in you get rewarded. It's got a great balance.
SolidSnakex
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Tom Penny said:
It's very dangerous to stay in any one position in this game for too long. Most of the sniping spots are known by other players and they'll sneak up on your (or a swarm will come in) and take you out.
Simple. They make it so you dont want to stay in 1 place all the time. Because there's always somebody that will run up right behind you and gun you down. Also, if there's another sniper on the opposite team...they're likely to spot you if you sit in the same area. Also, when you're killed...they show the general area from which the bullet came from.Tom Penny said:
Even snipers that are cloaked can still be spotted by the spot/mark ability.
I've gotta alot of headshots that way.
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stuburns said:
Have they even confirmed that though? And if so will it be 1st day or later on? I'd really love a co op mode in Killzone 2 and offline/online split screen MP.
"Hiding" isn't really an option in this game, there are no guaranteed safe havens. One of the game types is Assassination where you take out a specific person, and once you're the target you quickly realize the levels were all made specifically so that you couldn't just hide in a corner for 60 seconds and win, you are never ever in a spot where you feel completely safe and secludedTom Penny said:
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