KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW

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I think a standard M16 weighs near 30 pounds too. How practical is carrying an assault rifle as a secondary? I'm just killing the can't swap out pistol rant. Helghan could have a stronger gravity then Earth as well, but probably barely.
 
Ballistictiger said:
I think a standard M16 weighs near 30 pounds too. How practical is carrying an assault rifle as a secondary? I'm just killing the can't swap out pistol rant. Helghan could have a stronger gravity then Earth as well, but probably barely.
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Well, I was taking into account the future tech when saying 10 pounds for the reg assault rifle. I'm guessing most of the components would be of a plastic composite material instead of metallic.

Mamesj said:
Why not type that instead being a total fucking cunt?


Also, you forgot the xanax he took, which helps explain the one second delay in telling him to point the gun or jump and when actually performs said action. Later!
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Because you came storming into the thread ranting and raving about how fast you can turn and stop and start with a gun, but you didn't even stop to think it through. listen, this is The Gaf baby. people call you out for stupid shit. I've got my fair share of it, but I don't hesitate when I can do it too :).
 
Mamesj said:
Why not type that instead being a total fucking cunt?


Also, you forgot the xanax he took, which helps explain the one second delay in telling him to point the gun or jump and when actually performs said action. Later!
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Good riddance!
 
Danne-Danger said:
How powerful are headshots in MP? One-hit kill with every weapon? Do helmets have any effect like in SP?

Also, does health still regenerate or is it healthpacks all the way?
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Health regenerates but never to the max. You always lose something when you get hit.
Say you have 100 health. You get hit and bar goes down to 70 and then slowly back up to 80.

Heathpacks are secondary badge items for the Medic. You can throw them to buddies (or down on the ground to be collected, even by yourself if needed) in order to regen them back to 100. The medic can see health bar of top of his comrades btw. There is a waiting period before you can toss another helthpack so it's not like you are an healing god like, say, in Resistance 2 coop.
 
TTP said:
The medic can see health bar of top of his comrades btw. There is a waiting period before you can toss another helthpack so it's not like you are an healing god like, say, in Resistance 2 coop.
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I'm having a hard time remembering.. but I seem to remember that I could only see the health bars of my squadmates. Is that still the case?
 
This is not my opinion, but the person who's opinion it is wont post it, because he thinks he will be banned for having such an opinion.

This person's opinion via copy paste from IRC:
<Daigo> after playing the kz2 demo just before this conversation
<Daigo> I'm considering cancelling the pre-order
<Daigo> going to think about it for the next few days
<Daigo> as much as the neogaf playstation fans want to deny it
<Daigo> this game copies so much of cod4
<Daigo> except it has a really shitty cover system
<Daigo> and better graphics
<Daigo> it took these guys way longer to make the game and yet it's a copycat and isn't as good
<Daigo> oh yeah they also add more swears for effect
<Daigo> saying fuck in every line proves that this is a man's game
<Daigo> a MANLY MAN'S GAME
<Daigo> DO YOU HEAR ME

I did not play Cod4 so I cant argue against his opinion, but maybe someone can tell me if he is way off base?

I think the demo was fun, and knew I was going to buy this based on how much I loved Liberation alone.
 
True that they might have better alternatives to make weapons more efficient but this games weapon resembles our modern one. I think the future will have new tech that resemble the rail gun and the Metalstorm tech. Back to topic, it look like it's made out of the same material as the M16.
 
FootNinja said:
This is not my opinion, but the person who's opinion it is wont post it, because he thinks he will be banned for having such an opinion.

This person's opinion via copy paste from IRC:
<Daigo> after playing the kz2 demo just before this conversation
<Daigo> I'm considering cancelling the pre-order
<Daigo> going to think about it for the next few days
<Daigo> as much as the neogaf playstation fans want to deny it
<Daigo> this game copies so much of cod4
<Daigo> except it has a really shitty cover system
<Daigo> and better graphics
<Daigo> it took these guys way longer to make the game and yet it's a copycat and isn't as good
<Daigo> oh yeah they also add more swears for effect
<Daigo> saying fuck in every line proves that this is a man's game
<Daigo> a MANLY MAN'S GAME
<Daigo> DO YOU HEAR ME

I did not play Cod4 so I cant argue against his opinion, but maybe someone can tell me if he is way off base?

I think the demo was fun, and knew I was going to buy this based on how much I loved Liberation alone.
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Nah, the only respect that it copies CoD4 in is that it's a linear scripted shooter. Otherwise pretty much everything is different.
 
Orlics said:
Nah, the only respect that it copies CoD4 in is that it's a linear scripted shooter. Otherwise pretty much everything is different.
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What is a non-scripted shooter ?

Honest question.
 
FootNinja said:
I did not play Cod4 so I cant argue against his opinion, but maybe someone can tell me if he is way off base?
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To people who don't know any better, any console FPS from now on that enters the arena (so to speak) will be judged against COD4.

Problem is, there have been many excellent FPS's prior to COD4 that COD4, itself, "copied" from.

In short: he's way off.
 
Raist said:
What is a non-scripted shooter ?

Honest question.
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one where enemy AI don't behave the exact same way everytime you go into a scene. Seems like most shooters tend to have 1 or 2 standard ways enemies respond, as people have talked about, KZ2 can be played over and over but the AI is a lot more dynamic than games that came before it (on consoles).
 
TTP said:
Health regenerates but never to the max. You always lose something when you get hit.
Say you have 100 health. You get hit and bar goes down to 70 and then slowly back up to 80.

Heathpacks are secondary badge items for the Medic. You can throw them to buddies (or down on the ground to be collected, even by yourself if needed) in order to regen them back to 100. The medic can see health bar of top of his comrades btw. There is a waiting period before you can toss another helthpack so it's not like you are an healing god like, say, in Resistance 2 coop.
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Alrighty then, I guess that's the badge for me.
 
Raist said:
What is a non-scripted shooter ?

Honest question.
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None. Unless you can consider a game like GTA a shooter, and even then it's scripted even though it doesn't like it's scripted, or at least not that much.

In fact, there is no non-scripted action game out there.
 
Does it really disappoint anyone else that COD4 is now the gold standard for many people as far as FPS's are concerned? It's like the genre began with that game and no one can think of any other comparisons.

Revolutionary beat me to it. Damn torrents slowing my connection.
 
icechai said:
one where enemy AI don't behave the exact same way everytime you go into a scene
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No, that's not all though. Non-scripted means everything happens without following an script. Not just enemies, but like for example if you walk over an almost broken floor and right when you walk through it, it breaks and you fall down. If it's because the game has gravity and weight physics, then it's not scripted. Otherwise it is.
 
Is it possible for a game to be non-scripted? That just seems like to much. Being able to change the outcome of a scenario is a way that is not predetermined to some extent.
 
beast786 said:
Dont forget no co-op..

we got... no co-op, too gamey, samey, sticky test, lag test, too blandy , too weighty, too blury and wondering whats next?
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Tell me it has mouse support and it'll be the first game in years I've bought at full price.
If not, chalk my lack of purchase up to "no mouse support" and add it to your list.
 
MvmntInGrn said:
Is it possible for a game to be non-scripted? That just seems like to much. Being able to change the outcome of a scenario is a way that is not predetermined to some extent.
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I was going to say LittleBigPlanet, but then again all the switches would work as scripts, so I'm not sure.
 
FootNinja said:
This is not my opinion, but the person who's opinion it is wont post it, because he thinks he will be banned for having such an opinion.

This person's opinion via copy paste from IRC:
<Daigo> after playing the kz2 demo just before this conversation
<Daigo> I'm considering cancelling the pre-order
<Daigo> going to think about it for the next few days
<Daigo> as much as the neogaf playstation fans want to deny it
<Daigo> this game copies so much of cod4
<Daigo> except it has a really shitty cover system
<Daigo> and better graphics
<Daigo> it took these guys way longer to make the game and yet it's a copycat and isn't as good
<Daigo> oh yeah they also add more swears for effect
<Daigo> saying fuck in every line proves that this is a man's game
<Daigo> a MANLY MAN'S GAME
<Daigo> DO YOU HEAR ME

I did not play Cod4 so I cant argue against his opinion, but maybe someone can tell me if he is way off base?

I think the demo was fun, and knew I was going to buy this based on how much I loved Liberation alone.
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Killzone 2 doesn't have shitty enemy AI nor does it rely on cheap-as-shit, dated-as-fuck enemy spawns.
angry.gif
 
FootNinja said:
This is not my opinion, but the person who's opinion it is wont post it, because he thinks he will be banned for having such an opinion.

This person's opinion via copy paste from IRC:
<Daigo> after playing the kz2 demo just before this conversation
<Daigo> I'm considering cancelling the pre-order
<Daigo> going to think about it for the next few days
<Daigo> as much as the neogaf playstation fans want to deny it
<Daigo> this game copies so much of cod4
<Daigo> except it has a really shitty cover system
<Daigo> and better graphics
<Daigo> it took these guys way longer to make the game and yet it's a copycat and isn't as good
<Daigo> oh yeah they also add more swears for effect
<Daigo> saying fuck in every line proves that this is a man's game
<Daigo> a MANLY MAN'S GAME
<Daigo> DO YOU HEAR ME

I did not play Cod4 so I cant argue against his opinion, but maybe someone can tell me if he is way off base?

I think the demo was fun, and knew I was going to buy this based on how much I loved Liberation alone.
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Outside of being a shooter, it plays nothing like call of duty.

It's almost like a mixture of first person Gears gameplay, combined with Halo's AI, and its own set of unique controls that add to the immersion all packaged together with some of the best graphics out there.

Tell your friend if he plays Call of Duty for the single player at all, because canceling your pre-order over a single player demo when you mainly play multiplayer is absolutely retarded.
 
itxaka said:
woah, people are getting early copieas already? Awesome.


Can someone confirm that the BD has all languages on it?
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You can even play German option with 100% German voiceovers which is GREAT - didn't have time to try Russian yet, but I will later and probably stick to it, just for fun - because once you choose language option, you can't change it later no way. Which is a shame I have to admit, because I'd like o play SP camapagn on diferent languages, and then stick to English for MP.
 
Kittonwy said:
Killzone 2 doesn't have shitty enemy AI nor does it rely on cheap-as-shit, dated-as-fuck enemy spawns.
angry.gif
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I ran out of ammo killing the Helghasts coming out of the buildings on the left of the very first section of the demo. They just kept coming out.

(Until you pass a certain point that is... That point makes everyone with you get up from their cover)
 
Private Hoffman said:
Outside of being a shooter, it plays nothing like call of duty.

It's almost like a mixture of first person Gears gameplay, combined with Halo's AI, and its own set of unique controls that add to the immersion all packaged together with some of the best graphics out there.

Tell your friend if he plays Call of Duty for the single player at all, because canceling your pre-order over a single player demo when you mainly play multiplayer is absolutely retarded.
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I love playing hide and seek with the AI in the demo.
angry.gif
 
Private Hoffman said:
Outside of being a shooter, it plays nothing like call of duty.

It's almost like a mixture of first person Gears gameplay, combined with Halo's AI, and its own set of unique controls that add to the immersion all packaged together with some of the best graphics out there.

Tell your friend if he plays Call of Duty for the single player at all, because canceling your pre-order over a single player demo when you mainly play multiplayer is absolutely retarded.
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It reminds me of FEAR more than anything, I'm not getting the CoD comparisons at all either.

Also, the SP in CoD has been largely the same since '03, in everything from the level design to the feel of the weapons.
amar212 said:
You can even play German option with 100% German voiceovers which is GREAT - didn't have time to try Russian yet, but I will later and probably stick to it, just for fun - because once you choose language option, you can't change it later no way. Which is a shame I have to admit, because I'd like o play SP camapagn on diferent languages, and then stick to English for MP.
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It was pretty funny to hear the Helghast speak German in the demo, it brought the "space nazi" concept to a whole new level.
 
amar212 said:
You can even play German option with 100% German voiceovers which is GREAT - didn't have time to try Russian yet, but I will later and probably stick to it, just for fun - because once you choose language option, you can't change it later no way. Which is a shame I have to admit, because I'd like o play SP camapagn on diferent languages, and then stick to English for MP.
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ouh yeah! So all languages shown in the demo are also on the BD! Cool as fuck


nor does it rely on cheap-as-shit, dated-as-fuck enemy spawns.
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Well, in the demo if you don't blow up the bridge they just keep on coming. I think that part is kind og spawn-ed
 
Private Hoffman said:
Outside of being a shooter, it plays nothing like call of duty.

It's almost like a mixture of first person Gears gameplay, combined with Halo's AI, and its own set of unique controls that add to the immersion all packaged together with some of the best graphics out there.

Tell your friend if he plays Call of Duty for the single player at all, because canceling your pre-order over a single player demo when you mainly play multiplayer is absolutely retarded.
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I pretty much agree with that,playing the demo didn't remind me of COD4 in the slightest.
 
Ballistictiger said:
I think a standard M16 weighs near 30 pounds too. How practical is carrying an assault rifle as a secondary? I'm just killing the can't swap out pistol rant. Helghan could have a stronger gravity then Earth as well, but probably barely.
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M16s are roughly 4kgs unless there's a nade launcher or scope plus laser attachment. It's not 30 pounds.

My combat load in service is 15kg for a rocket launcher, 5kg for my assault rifle. Nades and extra clips add onto the weight... No idea on body Armour weight though, don't use it.
 
Mik2121 said:
None. Unless you can consider a game like GTA a shooter, and even then it's scripted even though it doesn't like it's scripted, or at least not that much.

In fact, there is no non-scripted action game out there.
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Well, GTA's missions are heavily scripted...
 
methane47 said:
Sooooo how close is this thread in views to the Current View Champion?>
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Keep in mind the Smash Bros thread was from 05-22-2007 to 04-15-2008

Halo thread is from 09-05-2007 to Present

and the Killzone 2 thread is from 11-13-2008 to Present
 
I'm not gonna go looking through all the last couple hundred posts here, but I saw some talk about RGB Full settings on the PS3...

If you're playing this on a normal HDTV the PS3 should be set to Limited. If you're playing it on a computer monitor, set RGB to Full.

If this has been posted, please ignore me at will.
 
Schrade said:
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Keep in mind the Smash Bros thread was from 05-22-2007 to 04-15-2008

Halo thread is from 09-05-2007 to Present

and the Killzone 2 thread is from 11-13-2008 to Present
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LOL HOLY CRAP smash is a beast!

But only a couple more thousand... I predict that KZ thread will surpass Halo3 thread in about 16 hrs
 
Tried the demo last night together with 2 of my friends (one PC only user and one PS3 user) and all of us were somewhat disappointed.

The animation is insanely good and the particles/geometry/textures are beautiful, but the grey/brownish coloring for the art gets boring in a few minutes to the demo.

ALL of us hated the view lag. I tried to put the sensitivity to max, but this made only things worse (after the acceleration, the sensitivity was too much for an analog stick). I wish the sensitivity would've made the acceleration more faster rather than the sensitivity after it.

I guess playing CoD and Source games made us all a bit biased for the controls, but damn what a bitter aftertaste after all this insane hype.

I'll still buy the full version when the game is out, but looks like it'll take a lot of time to get used to the controls.
 
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