Killzone Shadow Fall Review Thread

noobasuar said:
It is what it is. After a generation of shooters the only ones I'm will
ng to pick up are the ones with the very best MP. I'm sorry but FPS campaigns have went waaaay down from where they were 10 years ago.
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And you use reviews to base your judgement on what games are the best MP experiences. Honestly, reviews don't put enough time into MP to even judge it fairly.

all my fav MP last gen console shooters got so-so reviews
 
The criticisms mostly make sense on their own, but when compared to Call of Duty and Battlefield it seems like Killzone is being punished by some outlets for a reason I can't discern. Killzone sounds like Crysis. Beautiful, starts off open and different but reverts to old corridor shooter mechanics later on, and a story that isn't all that great. But pretty solid multiplayer. Sounds fine to me, and a wide range of scores make sense depending on which parts of the game you find most important.

It seems to me they did seem to put more effort into trying to tell a different sort of story from the sounds of it rather than just phone it in. They just lack in the storytelling execution department.

What confounds me is when I read statements like "In a launch lineup crowded with shooters, Killzone: Shadow Fall sits at the bottom." or see outlets putting lots of emphasis on storytelling giving higher scores for Battlefield and CoD: Ghosts.

Battlefield, I understand getting high numbers based on the visuals combined with what will likely end up being a true to form spectacular multiplayer experience for those who love big battles and the freedom it gives. As soon as its many predictable technical issues get hammered out, of course.

CoD on the other hand, is kind of ugly compared to its peers, seems to have downgraded the multiplayer component by adding little new and removing some popular content (from what I hear from CoD fans), and I've seen the campaign. The campaign is is a completely brain dead mess from the beginning. I watched a nice chunk of people playing that campaign, and it's just chock full of logical inconsistencies, unexplained motivations, uninteresting enemy behavior, and a bunch of generic military tough guy yelling.

I have a hard time seeing the Killzone campaign being worse, and from reading even the negative reviews, it sounds like a better executed and more interesting experience than what I've seen from CoD: Ghosts with my own eyes.
 
dark10x said:
Really? He gave Halo 4 a 9.5 huh?

Having just replayed the game last week I'm genuinely surprised to see that. It's a solid game but it really lacks something next to Bungie's titles (especially Halo Reach). The campaign felt far more narrow in scope and less satisfying overall. Certainly not something I'd rate at 9.5.
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Maybe the most insulting part is the 7/10 for Ghosts, which literally rips features from the previous games in order to get the title out the door. what a joke Polygon is.
 
So a KILLZONE game is pretty, but also bland and uninspired? I am shocked.




SHOCKED.

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dragonbane said:
Polygon's reviews for Sony's biggest exclusives in 2013 so far:

Beyond: Two Souls - 8
The Last of Us - 7.5
GoW: Ascension - 7
Knack - 6
Killzone: SF - 5

lol
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Take two points from Beyond and tack them to The Last of Us, but otherwise those look pretty in-line with consensus.
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
Here's a post I made when The Last of Us was reviewed.



And an update when someone asked me to look at just first party IPs:
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Would've been better to show per game scores also. Cause this is the average of all scores, one game scoring very low can bring down the average, but the rest of the games score similar to Metacritic.
 
toastyToast said:
Sessler's review was pretty positive. Actually got me a bit more interested in the game.

Shame this game doesn't inspire confidence or enthusiasm. Weird to see people so down on an FPS campaign since most of them are junk. Last one I had a good time with was COD 4
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Yeah, I agree about Sessler's review. The stuff he said makes the game sound much better than the score he gave. Sounds like it was right on the border of a 3 and a 4.
 
RMI said:
no, that's not what i'm saying at all. It's just that when they're consistently an outlier, it doesn't make sense to include them in the broader discussion. Also, in practice including them adds nothing to the conversation.
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Wow, this really doesn't make sense. When discussing reviews, it makes more sense to include diverse opinions than just to spew out the 100 other reviews that give the same score.
 
I'm glad to hear the game at least delivers on a technical stand point with great, crisp graphics and a steady framerate out of the gate at launch - gives me hope that the hardware can deliver great experiences with more exciting game ideas in the future. If the level designs get more linear as the game progresses, that's a shame, but hopefully the MP can deliver some quality fun once the community-built warzones get out there.
 
fuzzyreactor said:
And you use reviews to base your judgement on what games are the best MP experiences. Honestly, reviews don't put enough time into MP to even judge it fairly.

all my fav MP last gen console shooters got so-so reviews
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I'm assuming one of those was Bionic Commando?

That's the game that made me realize, finally, that reviews aren't the only thing you should base your buying on.
 
Most of these scores is what I expected. 8 is a very solid number and most review feel the game is great overall.

Can anyone explain why Polygon gave it a 5/10? Are they known to be down on PS game reviews in general? Honestly, Polygon is not a site I ever really go to and not for any particular reason. I just enjoy the sites I normally go to and never had a real reason to start looking at Polygon.
 
Metfanant said:
i think the confusion is that its not Polygon as a whole...its Gies....if Gies did the Knack review it would be a 0/10....maybe a 1/10



good post...i would be interested to know (not expecting you to do it for me lol) how many of the reviews (on both sides) Gies wrote himself...
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dragonbane said:
Polygon's reviews for Sony's biggest exclusives in 2013 so far:

Beyond: Two Souls - 8
The Last of Us - 7.5
GoW: Ascension - 7
Knack - 6
Killzone: SF - 5

lol
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The hell has that do with anything? How convenient for you to leave out that in its entire publication history, Polygon has graded Sony exclusives HIGHER than the metacritic average. Additionally, its averages for Nintendo and Microsoft exclusives are LOWER than its average for Sony's. They've given out one console exclusive PERFECT (to vita) and one console exclusive ZERO (to Xbox). Fuck outta here with the conspiracy bullshit.
 
Polygon review doesn't seem to mention the OWL and the various abilities associated with that. If a Player doesn't use the stunning, shield, tactical echo feature, the game could get quite difficult :)
 
BajiBoxer said:
The criticisms mostly make sense on their own, but when compared to Call of Duty and Battlefield it seems like Killzone is being punished by some outlets for a reason I can't discern. Killzone sounds like Crysis. Beautiful, starts off open and different but reverts to old corridor shooter mechanics later on, and a story that isn't all that great. But pretty solid multiplayer. Sounds fine to me, and a wide range of scores make sense depending on which parts of the game you find most important.
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Everybody wishes Killzone had a tenth of the depth of Crysis' gameplay.
 
I think i'll have my fun with this. Scores are all over the place but i think it will be fine. Hopefully Guerilla will work on the stuff that they get critisized for.
Variety, good gameplay, good multiplayer and eyecandy will keep me happy for a while.
 
breakfuss said:
The hell has that do with anything? How convenient for you to leave out that in its entire publication history, Polygon has graded Sony exclusives HIGHER than the metacritic average. Additionally, its averages for Nintendo and Microsoft exclusives are LOWER than its average for Sony's. They've given out one console exclusive PERFECT (to vita) and one console exclusive ZERO (to Xbox). Fuck outta here with the conspiracy bullshit.
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When people start making this kind of argument it is a better sign than the reviews themselves that a game isn't worth playing.
 
Pryce said:
But how's the MP? That's the only real reason why I'm buying it.
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No one really knows. These reviews probably should be labeled for single player. I mean, yeah, they got a taste of multi but only in a test situation. Not the journalists fault though as they have to review what they are given proper access too.
 
I can't fucking believed that reviewers said that the harders difficulty is a minus. WTF? Can't wait for user's score.
 
StoopKid said:
This thread is a mess.

The scores aren't really that bad.

except well polygon.
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This. Toss polygon and the toronto newspaper (game was too hard!) and its pushing 80 on metacritic.

Game reviews are like indie movie reviews, totally incapable of being consistent or really making a recommnendation for what any individual should get.
 
Ha, not surprised to see some reviewers shit on Killzone. What does surprise me is that people still trust this media's opinions on games.
 
Lolygon 5/10, what a surprise.

The Killzone series always had problems with reviews, many being overly harsh because they feel it is just a graphics demo. At least this time around the overhyped other shooters are also slammed by the reviewers so it is somewhat fair.
 
Even though some may say the SP isn't that good, I'm WAY more interested in that than COD's and BF4's SP modes. Funny how BF4 got so much higher praise, yet it's SP was complete dog shit. Hell, the game still constantly crashes, even if the MP is fun. The netcode still sucks. Honestly, I have more faith in KZ being great than BF4, and I like BF4.
 
My main concern was all this Shadow Marshal business to begin within Killzone. I always thought they were cool but who really wanted to play as one?

Some of the scores are not surprising seeing that SOME of these guys already go into playing SF with some sort of ridiculous standards and expectations. Either way, decent round of scores if numbers are what you care about.

I won't be touching next gen until mid next year but Killzone Shadowfall will be on my to play list.
 
I'm curious, when people say you shouldn't base your purchasing decisions on reviews.....what exactly is the alternative you're referring to?
 
evilromero said:
Or you know, make a judgement based on reviews from people who have played the game and save the money. Maybe?
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He pre-ordered because it looked good, already took wrapping off, it has gotten good/fair reviews (not bad by any means).

Unless he wants to play COD or BF4 in replacement, which have also gotten mixed reviews, it's not worth worrying over.
 
I've read that the game still has input latency? Sounds absolutely terrible to have for a FPS (and most genres).

I am honestly not surprised to see this game getting low scores by some reviewers and some decent scores by others. People have different values and form different opinions based around those values.

Let us try to not get too caught up in the number values though. Numerical scores are only good for a glance.

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And lets be honest, if there were other games out there at launch, I think more people would be willing to wait for a price drop on this game.
 
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