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Kingdom Hearts 2 first impressions - IGN
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Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Damn, that sounds awesome. I can't wait for KHII, its a must buy for me. Thanks.
because square enix is on a media tour with the same demo that was unveiled in japan last week.xsarien said:
i haven't heard anything about recycling. i'd be surprised, unless IGN knows something i don't. the demo struck me rather as KH but moreso. smoother, better combat and control, better camera, better cinematics... but also the same problems the original faced in these areas, more or less. it seems to be playing it safe and doing a very good job of it.
Gamespot's take on KH2
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/kingdomhearts2/preview_6106062.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/kingdomhearts2/preview_6106062.html
does the audience that's buying this game care? the FF popularity spiraled upward at that point, and anyone who's playing KH is probably an FF fan from that period.jett said:
besides, would the amano characters work in KH?
personally, the only amano-era FF characters i care about are from FFIV, and i don't particularly have any desire to see them in KH. =P
TheGreenGiant
Banned
KH is one of the few games this gen I actually seriously enjoyed. Fantastic visuals + great story works on so many levels. The FMV in this game was stupendous. And the whole heartless thing worked. loved it. 9/10 in my books (1 for the gummi boat sequences)
anyone out there thought the FF:CC had the same endgame boss fight? You go through x number of portals (except KHs was better cause it got there first).
anyone out there thought the FF:CC had the same endgame boss fight? You go through x number of portals (except KHs was better cause it got there first).
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
TheGreenGiant said:
Finally a fellow Kingdom Hearts fan. Tell it!
krypt0nian
Banned
TheGreenGiant said:
1000% true for me too.
dark10x said:
ABout half of the level designs were good (albeit short, and only had about 5 rooms total), but they art in those levels and the play mechanics for them were nice.
My favorite were Wonderland, Under the Sea level and Halloween Town... the rest of them can go to hell... especially the Tarzan stage.
Mashing said:
Don't ever get me started on Wonderland. I expected something interesting out of it. Heck, think of the possibilities of having a good, well done Wonderland. But I was greeted with 5 square rooms with typical platforming/ARPG puzzles. I was underwhelmed right there. When I got to Monstro and Tarzan, I started loathing the game.
SolidSnakex
Member
jett said:
They really haven't even began revealing the "extra" characters in the game yet. Most of the new Disney characters are still unknown, and the only new game character they've revealed is Auron I believe. I'd like for Nomura to bring in some of his other characters, like Aya Brea for example since they don't want to do a new Parasite Eve this gen. Musashi would be nice too.
tenchir said:
Don't even DARE compare Halo's levels to the shit in Kingom Hearts. At least Halo's level PLAYED well and often LOOKD very good. Kingdom Hearts is broken up into little tiny, worthless pieces. Halo is light years beyond Kingdom Hearts in terms of level design...
TheGreenGiant
Banned
haters be damned. KH's levels were all very well designed - the trinty gameplay concept of finding bonuses was awesome too. I personally had no problems with Tarzan's level - it really wasn't that hard and the end boss on that level was great fun and tough too.
re: dark10x
I don't see how replaying the same room/corridor and then in reverse in halo makes it the better design. Halo had it weak spots and the library bits were bad. Also, once the flood came; every room encounter was more of the same; same room, same creatures - I can swear I was playing Serious Sam.
re: dark10x
I don't see how replaying the same room/corridor and then in reverse in halo makes it the better design. Halo had it weak spots and the library bits were bad. Also, once the flood came; every room encounter was more of the same; same room, same creatures - I can swear I was playing Serious Sam.
TheGreenGiant
Banned
bionic77 said:
100% agreed. haley and that angel actor rocked.
That's the problem, though...they were NOT the same room. There is a huge difference between gameplay variety and visual variety. The later levels in Halo failed to provide visual variety, but there was most certainl gameplay variety. It should also be noted that all levels were fully realized into one giant stage. The only level where this could be argued is The Library, but even then, that level still played well. At least in Halo, you could walk outside and feel as if you in a truly massive area. Kingdom Hearts was not a world, it was just a collection of badly designed rooms.
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
I'll go into this one with as little bias as possible. I'm not a fan of the original but I'll be optimistic with this sequel.
I thought KH had pretty bad levels overall, ranging from absolute crap, to alright. The only one that i liked was Halloween Town, and even then its not as if the layout of that was that good, it just looked very nice.
Given the fact that most of the level concepts, areas, and graphics were already done by disney, it was pretty poor how square managed to mess them up with either terrible layout and execution (Tarzan, Wonderland), or just having them completely boring considering the materials potential (Alladdin). There really didn't seem to be enough worlds either, consideinrg how short and crap they all were, if there were loads of them it would be less noticeable.
Its abit crap if they reuse alot of the same worlds, especially as its not as if theres a lack of disney or square material to get new areas from, but then theres so much more potential in improving the levels from the original it shouldn't be so bad.
Given the fact that most of the level concepts, areas, and graphics were already done by disney, it was pretty poor how square managed to mess them up with either terrible layout and execution (Tarzan, Wonderland), or just having them completely boring considering the materials potential (Alladdin). There really didn't seem to be enough worlds either, consideinrg how short and crap they all were, if there were loads of them it would be less noticeable.
Its abit crap if they reuse alot of the same worlds, especially as its not as if theres a lack of disney or square material to get new areas from, but then theres so much more potential in improving the levels from the original it shouldn't be so bad.
SolidSnakex
Member
Mejilan said:
For Nomura characters that's where it began. That's what he's doing, taking his characters and putting it into games. How many gamers, outside of hardcore gamers, even know characters from FF games before 7?
TheGreenGiant
Banned
SolidSnakex said:
yup. Its got more to do with recognizability than anything else.
Cloud or Edgar...
Sephiroth or Terra
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I'd love to see Kefka though
SolidSnakex
Member
I think another problem is that Amano's design would be hard to translate into 3D while making them looking appealing. They're generally extremely pale and very thin which isn't going to be pleasing to alot of people.
SolidSnakex
Member
I'd actually like for them to translate Amano's art straight to the game without touching anything, for obvious reasons.