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Kochs cut back on political spending, realize it's not a good look

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johnsmith

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Basically when you hear the word Koch you don't think Koch Industries, but those rich guys throwing tons of money at Republicans. Interesting that this is happening in a year when so much money has been wasted to achieve so little in the primaries. 150 million on Jeb flushed down the drain, Trump winning despite spending hardly anything, Sanders outspending Hillary and still losing.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/kochs-are-souring-on-national-politics.html

Charles and David Koch once pledged to spend $889 million on the 2016 campaign cycle. Now the billionaire brothers plan to stay on the sidelines of this year’s presidential race — and have cut their paid media budget for all of this cycle’s campaigns to $40 million, down from $150 million one year ago. While many have interpreted the Kochs’ sudden stinginess as a rebuke to the less-than-libertarian Republican nominee, a new report from the National Review suggests the tycoons are fundamentally rethinking their approach to rigging the system.

The magazine’s story opens at a February meeting of the Koch network’s top political operatives. Trump had just won the New Hampshire primary, and Freedom Partners president Marc Short had prepared a plan to halt the Donald’s rise. But when Short arrived at the summit he was confronted by an unwelcome surprise: The Koch’s “corporate wing” had been invited.

The suits at Koch Industries had never been crazy about the brothers’ campaign spending and the public-relations nightmares it routinely generated. When Charles Koch decided to poll the room on Short’s plan, its fate was inevitable: The Kochs would sit out the primary. A month later, they announced they’d probably be sitting out the fall presidential contest altogether. Now they appear to be cutting back on their down-ballot spending as well.

According to the National Review, the Koch network has spent $10 million in paid media on this year’s Senate races — at this point in 2014, they’d spent more than $35 million. In those midterms, the Kochs funded ad campaigns in 11 Senate contests; in 2016, they’re involved in just 4.

Some reasons for this drawback are cycle-specific: A lot of big-money donors have a fetish for presidential politics, and when the Kochs announced they had no interest in backing Trump, their fundraising took a hit. Plus, with the Donald’s unfavorability handicapping GOP Senate candidates, the Kochs are reluctant to bet big money on Republicans keeping the upper chamber.

But the brothers are also getting tired of being the poster boys for plutocracy. Last October, Charles made the media rounds to promote his book Good Profit, which detailed the high-minded principles that guide Koch Industries. Much to his horror, the only thing the media wanted to talk about was how he was trying to buy the government.

The Koch network began inviting reporters to its exclusive donor retreats for the first time last year, and Charles embarked on a media blitz to promote the book. What he encountered was eye-opening: Despite his remarkable business career and decades-long involvement in other philanthropic initiatives, questions centered around one topic: his putative role as the GOP’s puppet master.
The Kochs’ communications department had long warned that their conspicuous political spending would erode the corporate brand. Charles finally believed them.


Before 2010, the Kochs were content to advance their self-serving brand of libertarianism by bankrolling university departments, think tanks, and like-minded local candidates. Now, after six years as two of the biggest moneymen in national politics, they’re starting to appreciate the virtues of their old model.

Their participation in federal elections has cost them millions of dollars and generated innumerable pieces of bad press. And for what? Sure, they helped engineer big Republican victories in the 2010 and 2014 midterms. But America is no closer to being Ayn Rand’s utopia — heck, the GOP Congress just reauthorized (the bastion of cronyism called) the Export-Import Bank.
 
I'm actually happy Social Media has made commercials less relevant and spending on commercials more of a waste of money.

Follow the candidates on Twitter and/or Facebook and you'll get direct access to whatever the hell they are all about.

It devalues the big money campaign influencers, like the Koch bros.
 

bomma_man

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There was a big article in the New Yorker recently about how they're trying to change the image of the extreme right. They realise their self interested motives are entirely transparent at the moment, so they're going to change tack and try to focus on positive things up front, like justice reform, and sneak the plutocrat stuff around the back.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/01/25/new-koch
 

Beartruck

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-Kochs spend millions on the Republican party
-Republicans have to share party with increasingly libertarian extremists
-Republican party eats itself alive

Whoops.
 

Cyan

Banned
Alternate headline: Kochs realize Trump won the Republican primary, decide to save their money for another cycle rather than setting it on fire.
 

- J - D -

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They were usually less conspicuous about privately feeding unlimited funds to candidates of their choice, being very good at hiding all disclosure of the source. I mean, aside from shit like Americans for Prosperity. I guess the desperation set in.
 
I like how corporate had to step in like "bros, you're killing us." Anecdotally, I use 3oz Dixie cups (a Koch product) for the bathroom, and I've been trying unsuccessfully to find a competing product because I don't want to support those clowns. I'm pleased that at least someone inside the company realizes their activities are bad PR.

Though I'm equally cynical as others and figure they'll be back to their routine in 2018.
 

smurfx

get some go again
Alternate headline: Kochs realize Trump won the Republican primary, decide to save their money for another cycle rather than setting it on fire.
well it's probably a better investment to keep destroying democrats in midterm elections.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
They probably could have spent their money more effectively by buying out some news or entertainment company and have them create content that is sympathetic to their ideas.
 

jiggle

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Sure, for now
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Shame these guys won't live to see renewable energy killing their empire.
 
Maybe if Ed didn't run NYC into the ground they wouldn't be so reviled.

Nah, they're still scum.

(I am aware Ed and the Koch brothers are a different family)
 

StMeph

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If the issue is entirely about image and not ROI or ineffective/insufficient influence on policy, I don't see why it wouldn't just be moved to more anonymous forms of contributing like through new SuperPACs that they aren't nearly as loud or public about.
 
Everyone knows they're rigging the system, but they're failing at it, so they're going to try to back off and find a sneakier way to fool and control people. Great. Because what we need is for systematic problems to get even sneakier.
 

riotous

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well it's probably a better investment to keep destroying democrats in midterm elections.

The article states they are way behind on their typical spending on mid-term elections though.

Not saying it's absolutely certain this PR excuse is the reason why; but the article doesn't ignore your point.
 

megalowho

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The Kochs will never get the stink of their political games off them at this point. Their hand picked guy didn't win, the GOP nominee is unsavory and the negative PR of being unabashed plutocrats trying to rig the system has tarnished their legacy. Not surprised to see them pull back from the crazy numbers that were originally getting thrown around.

I have a difficult time believing they're doing anything but being sneaker and smarter about their political spending and networking, as the article purports. They just don't want to be seen in the eye of the storm right now.
 

akileese

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No. Quite the opposite really. They're just going to toss a ton of money at the senate and house races, as well as local government races.

4th post nailed it though. I kept seeing all these...weird, charitable (at least for the Kochs) things they've been doing and thought "huh, well that's weird." They're just trying to do image rehabilitation since Americans think really terribly of them.
 

Crosseyes

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Wouldn't it be easier just to grease the palms of the people who end up getting elected without trying to put your guy into office? Almost any elected official can be on your side if you show what's in it for them.
 

megalowho

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Wouldn't it be easier just to grease the palms of the people who end up getting elected without trying to put your guy into office? Almost any elected official can be on your side if you show what's in it for them.
Current campaign finance laws are what make unchecked donor networks and huge influxes of cash marked for desirable candidates possible. Bribing individual elected officials to vote for your interests is much shadier, and illegal.

A third option - dumping money into schools, establishing education programs promoting libertarian economic values in an effort to influence the young and impressionable - is their preferred method of playing the long game. Politicians are less reliable than broad social change.
 

devilhawk

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No. Quite the opposite really. They're just going to toss a ton of money at the senate and house races, as well as local government races.

4th post nailed it though. I kept seeing all these...weird, charitable (at least for the Kochs) things they've been doing and thought "huh, well that's weird." They're just trying to do image rehabilitation since Americans think really terribly of them.
This is some ignorant shit here.

Say what you want about the Kochs' politics, but they have consistently donated to cancer research in the last decade plus.

As a cancer researcher, I am sure as hell going to defend a cancer survivor throwing hundreds of millions towards research from a keyboard warrior who thinks he's doing it for "image rehabilitation."
 
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