HeisenbergFX4
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As most suspected anyways looks like 5000 series not coming until 2025
kopite7kimi - I think we won't see RTX 50 until CES
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analog_future
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I don't know who this person is
Punished Miku
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They're friends with wef;34;siof
analog_future
. He's a famous Nvidia leaker. He has a very good track record.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
One of the most consistent and reliable leakers when it comes to NVIDIA stuff.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Got it! A bit disappointing but in reality I have no reason to upgrade any sooner anyway.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Yes. Rumors/leaks were suggesting Q4 of this year. And that cadence would align with NVIDIA's traditional 2-year cycle.
Being announced at CES 2025 means a slower release cadence than they've had in recent years.
SantaC
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Nvidia has always been on a 2 year cycle before
Buggy Loop
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Meh, probably only the $2000 (?) 5090 would have made it to Q4 anyway. They might just release more models closer together to dilute the mountain of salt the internet will gulp when they see 5090's price.
DenchDeckard
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That's what I've heard from papa Jensen.
Gaiff
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That's the longest cycle yet. Ampere to Lovelace was just over 24 months. This looks like it'll be 26-27 months.
Corporal.Hicks
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My GPU is 8 years old, so I'm not willing to wait until Q4 2024, let alone Q1 2025. I think something like the RTX4080S will still be an attractive card when the 5000 series comes out, so I will have no regrets getting it.
It's likely that the available RTX 50 supply will be scarce, so prices will be much higher than MSRP for many months. According to Redgamingtech source, Nvidia is planning to gimp the 5090 and offer even more expensive Titan AI. If this performance target is real the RTX5070 will have similar performance to the 4080 and maybe even less VRAM.
It's likely that the available RTX 50 supply will be scarce, so prices will be much higher than MSRP for many months. According to Redgamingtech source, Nvidia is planning to gimp the 5090 and offer even more expensive Titan AI. If this performance target is real the RTX5070 will have similar performance to the 4080 and maybe even less VRAM.
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Thabass
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Ah, good to know. To me it always felt like it was going to go late into year in 2025, but I'm happy to know I was wrong on that.
asdasdasdbb
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With nFlation, the same prices would be a price cut basically. I'd expect a decent price hike for the 5090.
StereoVsn
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I am kind of scared to see the prices, lol. I have a 3080TI and will upgrade to something, but really depends on the price.My GPU is 8 years old, so I'm not willing to wait until Q4 2024, let alone Q1 2025. It's also likely that the available supply will be scarce, so prices will be much higher than MSRP for many months. I think something like the RTX4080S will still be attractive card even when the 5000 series comes out. It seems that the RTX5070 will have similar performance to the 4080 and maybe even less VRAM. According to Redgamingtech source, Nvidia is planning to gimp the 5090 and offer even more expensive Titan AI.
I fully expect $2K+ for a 5090, $1,300-1,400 for a 5080 and like $3K for the Titan.
Mister Wolf
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The 4090 was a good investment.
Haint
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My GPU is 8 years old, so I'm not willing to wait until Q4 2024, let alone Q1 2025. It's also likely that the available supply will be scarce, so prices will be much higher than MSRP for many months. I think something like the RTX4080S will still be attractive card even when the 5000 series comes out. It seems that the RTX5070 will have similar performance to the 4080 and maybe even less VRAM. According to Redgamingtech source, Nvidia is planning to gimp the 5090 and offer even more expensive Titan AI.
The 4090 is itself already gimped, a 12% cutdown of AD102. If it were rightly named as the 4080Ti it actually is, it'd still be the most cut down XX80Ti in Nvidia's history. Pushing the product stack down a tier wasn't a joke or conspiracy theory.
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Black_Stride
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Nvidia release every 2 years.....assuming the 2025 is true that would be late for Nvidia.
And they have conference called GTC coming later this year.....people were expecting them to be announced there (they still might be).
What does GTC stand for you ask?
Celcius
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I doubt that the Titan lineup comes back, but if they do then I'm down for a TitanMy GPU is 8 years old, so I'm not willing to wait until Q4 2024, let alone Q1 2025. It's also likely that the available supply will be scarce, so prices will be much higher than MSRP for many months. I think something like the RTX4080S will still be attractive card even when the 5000 series comes out. It seems that the RTX5070 will have similar performance to the 4080 and maybe even less VRAM. According to Redgamingtech source, Nvidia is planning to gimp the 5090 and offer even more expensive Titan AI.
48GB vram let's go
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MikeM
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You don't need a 5080 for a good Blops 6 experience. Its coming to PS4 too, so baseline specs will be low. Buying a 4080 or 4090 will net you a damn good framerate.
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hinch7
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True, the game and engine scales well but I like them high frame rates. I have 4070Ti which is pretty okay but running MW3 doesn't quite cut it for me at 4K. When I was on my old 1440P monitor, I could get 220-240fps (DLSS Quality) in MP. Now I've gone and upgraded monitor; only getting 160-170fps at 4K Performance.
That and I can play games at 4K with heavy RT (plus any mods), without them shitting the bed due to the lack of VRAM.
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cash_longfellow
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Who the shit is that?
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lmimmfn
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Pffttt, ~30% increase over midrange current gen?My GPU is 8 years old, so I'm not willing to wait until Q4 2024, let alone Q1 2025. It's also likely that the available supply will be scarce, so prices will be much higher than MSRP for many months. I think something like the RTX4080S will still be attractive card even when the 5000 series comes out. It seems that the RTX5070 will have similar performance to the 4080 and maybe even less VRAM. According to Redgamingtech source, Nvidia is planning to gimp the 5090 and offer even more expensive Titan AI.
That's a bit shit.....and not worth an upgrade in that bracket for those with 4 series cards.
Killer8
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I picked up a 4070 Super for a good price a couple weeks ago with the free Black Myth code. The long wait for 5xxx + diminishing gains + likely price hike due to TSMC's warnings made me just say fuck it and upgrade. No regrets. I can do path traced Cyberpunk 2077 and Alan Wake 2 now at very playable framerates.
amigastar
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I have a 4070 with 1080p monitor and i'm super satisfied.
The later 50xx series comes out the better for me at least.
HeisenbergFX4
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analog_future
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Why'd you sell the 4090?
night13x
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honestly not surprised. AMD pretty much waved the white flag for next gen cards (focusing more on value and console level vs extreme performance). As a 4090 owner, and as nice as the 5090 sounds, I will probably skip the blackwell gen unless there is some surprises with it. 4090 will still be more powerful than a 5080 and I don't play high fps competitive 4k games so the extra power isnt really needed. YMMV of course.
I wonder if 5090 is also the price tag lol.
I wonder if 5090 is also the price tag lol.
hinch7
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Thats supposedly raster. RT is rumored to be getting a larger boost in performance.
zeroluck
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The value going down fast once they announced 5000 series, plus I don't need a hot GPU during the summer. Been doing it since 1080ti, ended up never spending a dime on GPU, I even made some money on 3090.
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StereoVsn
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Yeah, if you have 4000 series there isn't as much incentive but that's pretty normal. A lot of folks upgrade every other gen or so.
I am coming from a 3080Ti and even a 5080 should net me a significant improvement, not to mention a 5090. I kind of doubt I want to drop $2-2.5K on it (plus a new PSU) though so probably will stick to a 5080.
Hoddi
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I thought 2025 was already rumored?
Anyway, this would be on par with Pascal > Turing which had a similar timeframe. I just hope we see new features like with Turing instead of incremental performance improvements. Rasterization is already a mostly solved problem to the point that I barely see a reason to upgrade my 2080 Ti. And that's a 6 year old GPU.
Anyway, this would be on par with Pascal > Turing which had a similar timeframe. I just hope we see new features like with Turing instead of incremental performance improvements. Rasterization is already a mostly solved problem to the point that I barely see a reason to upgrade my 2080 Ti. And that's a 6 year old GPU.
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amigastar
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I don't see the problem, just wait for 60xx series if the performance increase isn't big enough for you. Why upgrade every gen when its clearly not supposed to be apperantly.
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Celcius
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You must not play FF14 at 4k max settings with the new graphical update.
Hunt trains can bring my 3090 into the mid-low 40's at times.
Dirk Benedict
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A 3090 isn't shit. Coming from a 3090 owner. Lol. For most games is it THE shit, but as we get into the newer stuff... Cyberpunk 2077 and newer, minus a few I might have missed. It gets bent over the knee and spanked. I am glad I didn't impulse buy the 4090.
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Hoddi
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That's very true, 4k was pushing it too much for my GPU. But I sidegraded from a 4k LCD to 3440x1440 OLED last summer and it clawed back enough performance that it's still very viable outside of edge cases.
It would be different if I was using one of those new 4k240 monitors and I still want to upgrade the GPU when the next gen rolls around. But I'd be hard pushed to say that this 2080 Ti was truly struggling for performance.