ReyBrujo
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The vast majority of people is not buying a Switch 2 for GTA6 in any case.
Nintendo Switch 2 Q&A with Virtuos: ‘I Think We Will See It Surpass The Predecessor’
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The vast majority of people is not buying a Switch 2 for GTA6 in any case.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
If all they could squeeze out of it is 540p upscaled to 1080p using DLSS, would Switch 2 owners complain? Nope. Only non-Switch 2 owners would tell us that's not how it's supposed to be played as we happily play it in their faces. Just saying.
Danjin44
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I'm not even planning to buy GTA6 on my PS5 let alone on Switch 2.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Why not? It looks fun!
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I used to like GTA games back in PS2 but later games it just not fun, the mission designs suck and just not fun control your character.
BlackTron
Member
You may well be right, but for all the wrong reasons. It won't fail to beat OG Switch due to being hampered by PC handhelds. It'll fail because OG Switch is the highest selling system ever and that's a tall order to beat.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Right now switch 2 has to focus on outselling the GameCube, there's plenty of time.
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
Even if theoretically could run GTA6(it cannot) Rockstar has no interest to do it. If they didn't port GTA5 to the Switch there's no way they will port GTA6 to Switch 2.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
Take Two is a publicly traded company, and shareholders can see how well the Switch 2 is doing.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Not actually, they can sell to new people too, Nintendo had that much wide appeal
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Which games virtuos are releasing on switch 2?
blacktout
Member
This. Only three systems in history have broken 150 million. The Switch 2 could be a phenomenal success and still fail to hit that milestone.
If it falls just 5 million short, then maybe you could talk about competition from PC handhelds, and if it's only 10 million short, then, sure, blame the lack of a COVID boost, but the reality is that both of those factors are ultimately going to be rounding errors. The fate of system is much more likely to be determined by industry trends and macroeconomic forces that are complete unknowns to us today.
GigaBowser
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yogaflame
Member
Switch 2 is already considered a next gen category compared to Xbox series s/x and base Ps5 and Ps5 pro. Xbox might not have a traditional next gen console. So late 2028 or early 2029 will be interesting and will be the real fight when Ps6 finally be face to face with Switch 2. For now both ps5 and switch 1 and 2 are doing good.
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So why didn't they buy Xbox or PS during that time? why buy the mobile device that actually allows you to go outside and play it?
Oh, it was the software...
If Nintendo keeps having a stream of games coming out every month like they do this year, they will get those customers. And if COD comes to it, they'll get even newer customers, as with Elden Ring, etc.
Nintendo is very well positioned.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
No chance it surpasses the Switch. Way too much competition in the handheld space now, so it ain't happening.
POKEYCLYDE
Member
The Switch 1's price made it so that everyone in the family could have their own. The Switch 2's price make it a 1 per household system.
There is no competition in the handheld space for Nintendo unless it ports its games to other handhelds.
This is wishful thinking. Even SteamDeck couldn't get pass 5m.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
Yea, Steam Deck. But steam deck isn't the only handheld eroding Switch 2 sales, all the other handheld are, and will for the next 8+ years while the switch 2 is on sale.
This guy gets it. People need to stop trying to force their PCMR views onto these shitty PC handhelds that are over priced and not direct competition with the Switch or Switch 2.
Exclusives still sell. These portable PC's are so niche with limited market penetration. There is no erosion here, move on, it's not the same experience Nintendo is offering. Getting so sick of this incorrect narative.
Do they have Nintendo games on them? no? ok.
In before some smart ass says yes they do, obviouslly illegally and through emulation.. 3 .. 2 .. 1
Kataploom
Gold Member
"Switch 2 too expensive no mass market price so people won't but it, also other handhelds that cost double and have no Nintendo games are competition and stealing its sales".
Yeah, makes total sense.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
I don't think you're getting it. Switch 2 is gonna sell millions BECAUSE OF NINTENDO GAMES. That doesn't mean that it will sell over 152M system. If the Switch 2 was the only handheld on the market, there would be a chance, but there's too many options, and you need to be less delusional thinking that everyone on a handheld gives a shit about 1-2 nintendo exclusives per year. The Deck 2 will most certainly be released in the next two years, and have much better specs than anything Switch 2, so unless you must play those Nintendo titles, the Deck 2 will be an easy choice over the Switch 2.
Who is talking about the price?
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Pimpbaa
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Are you saying the Switch 2 isn't overpriced? Especially when it's 110 US dollars cheaper in Japan (games are switch 1 prices before TTOK).
the deck1 was released with better specs and was not the easy choice with switch1.
It's amazing that after all this time people can be this delusional about specs making a difference.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
You're saying this as if anybody implied that the Deck was gonna outsell the Switch. Nobody is saying that, calm down. Secondly, the Deck is not the only other handheld there is. At this point it feels like there's one coming out on monthly basis, and they're all eroding Switch sales. The Switch 2 is here to stay for 7-9 years. During that time, can you even imagine how far ahead mobile hardware will advance? There's gonna be a Deck 3 by the time Nintendo is done with the Switch 2, and you ain't seeing any hardware upgrades with them either, so the future of everything running sub 30fps like on the Switch since 2020 is the future. Plenty of people will refuse buying a Nintendo exclusive if it runs like shit, i know for a fact many didn't buy ToTK because of it, and if they have to buy the system as well, forget it, they'll buy another, more capable handheld instead, and this is where the erosion of Switch 2 sales is coming from. Nobody said that it won't sell. It simply ain't gonna approach Switch 1 sales.
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They were eroding Switch sales so much it almost didn't pass 150m...
love ancedotal evidence of people who were not buying TotK, it only sold like 22m copies.
Specs are meaningless to 93.2% of people. That's a fact.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
Funny how you're ignoring the fact that the Switch portability was new for a console/portable hybrid when it came out and had zero competition for years. 22M sales when you have nothing to play on the system because no third party is on it, or it's by far the worse version of every game, is supposed to be impressive? Nintendo funnels you into their exclusives because you had nothing else on the Switch. Also, 22M ToTK sold with a 150M+ fanbase ain't as impressive as you think.
Robb
Gold Member
Relative to what?
Ps2 sold more and doesn't have a single 20M+ seller. The Nintendo DS reached similar heights and has 3 in total.
Don't feed the troll. Let's move past that.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
Why do you compare gaming nowadays to how it was 20+ years ago? It used to be known as a nerd hobby, and look at it now.
Robb
Gold Member
Same user base numbers. And if the Ps2 and DS consisted of 150/160M+ hardcore nerds you'd definitely expect there to be a multitude of 20M+ sellers.
All the handheld PCs you have in mind, including Steam Deck, have sales trajectories that won't reach even PlayStation Vita's total sales.
Let that sink for a moment. The supposed "competition" that should erode Switch 2 market penetration isn't even up to the task to match the abysmal sales of a failure like PlayStation Vita.
So is the sales performance of Steam Deck bad? No.
But that's because Steam Deck doesn't aim to be a competitor of Nintendo Switch or other previous handheld consoles, it was from the beginning a more niche initiative (thus it had lowered expectations of "a few millions") aimed to fill a niche, leveraging Valve's true trojan horse (Steam/SteamOS).
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
They do not always make a difference not in all markets and with all the core consumers, but you do get why some people get annoyed if price rise and companies use that to increase profit margins (I.e.: cheapening out on components promised vs delivered)… it might be that people are oblivious and/or do not care but in an enthusiast forum where people should be more aware about the impact of that should we really be celebrating that?
Then again there are people who have never been happier in their lives about Sony in general as their profits are right now almost 2x what they made for all other generations combined. Profits = they are great. Not sure I see the cheerful and happy feelings about Sony here either
. Anywyas, not the topic to talk about Nintendo competitors.
Mozza
Member
No competition whatsoever my freind. All those devices are niche at best and are not intended to comete with the Switch in the first place.
Mozza
Member
You are not the best argument to suggest the hobby is no longer nerdy however.
Astray
Member
No.
It means that Nintendo will have to find a way to either convince these people to get back in, or find new consumers to replace.
Hard does not equal impossible rofl.
Astray
Member
Who says they didn't?
Why do you think that the western industry overhired in 2021ish? Because they thought the sales they were getting were becoming a new norm.
I'm totally fine with my Switch 2, I don't feel like the device is not what is advertised and it's also a cheap compared to other handheld devices that have more advanced tech.They do not always make a difference not in all markets and with all the core consumers, but you do get why some people get annoyed if price rise and companies use that to increase profit margins (I.e.: cheapening out on components promised vs delivered)… it might be that people are oblivious and/or do not care but in an enthusiast forum where people should be more aware about the impact of that should we really be celebrating that?
Then again there are people who have never been happier in their lives about Sony in general as their profits are right now almost 2x what they made for all other generations combined. Profits = they are great. Not sure I see the cheerful and happy feelings about Sony here either
Boy bawang
Member
No it won't, but the Switch 1 is the most successful gaming system of all times.
But it will most likely beat 120-130 millions, which is still huge and an excellent consolidation of the concept. I sincerely believe that due to diminishing returns in visuals, the future of gaming will have to be hybrid. And Nintendo will have cultivated an audience for at east two generations before their competitors jump on that train (and they definitely will).
BlackTron
Member
I like Switch a lot but there a plenty of games for it I chose not to touch and play elsewhere instead. Don't lump all "Switch 2 owners" together as collectively having some mental impairment.
"Specs" do matter but aren't the only factor to determine the device penetration in the market (hardware price, unique features, exclusive content, game library, regional support and availability on retailers shelves, marketing push and so on).
However who speak about "specs" on videogame forum often suffer from tunnel vision and focus only on a small subset of "specs".
In this kind of thread you rarely see bring out the device's dimensions (if you want to cater to the mass market you need to think also to who has smaller hands), screen size, weight (again lower is better if you want to cater to the mass market), heat dissipation/fan noise, battery life.
Yet those are "specs" that every "average joe/janette" notices immediately.
The other key aspect often left aside when comparing Switch 1/2 with handheld PCs is that the Switch line of console vert on the hybrid design so that the console can easily/quickly morph to the form factor that better fit your lifestyle/moment to moment situation; out of the box you have everything needed for the hybrid concept to works and the whole ecosystem is tailored toward it.
On the other hand handheld PCs are mostly focused on delivering "PC gaming in a handheld form factor", while desktop/laptop PCs remain the main way to play PC games.
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PC handhelds don't sell even a fraction of the Switch 2.
Mozza
Member
So you mean the gaming handhelds that are even more niche than the already niche Steam Deck.... I see.
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