LA Times: Microsoft announces X360 pricing at lollapalooza 2005
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jetjevons said:
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A 210 quid 360 + cheap third party memory card + RR6 = gaming heaven and at a bargain price. You can't argue with that and MS know it.
Roll on the 360
Roll on the 360
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$400 for this! No thanks, you just made the wait for PS3 a whole lot easier MS.
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Dr_Cogent said:
what it ends up doing though, at least for me, is convince me that neither skus are a good deal. $399 is just way too high for a console.. and if i get the $299 version and decide to upgrade the components at a later date, im going to be completely ass raped by the price.. either way, i feel like i lose.
op_ivy said:
Maybe. That's up to Majesco's marketing department. I'm on the production side of things.
You know, everyone's freaking out about 360 cost and everything, but when you see Gears of War or Darkness running widescreen at 1080i it's going to be tough for gamers to resist. I'm not saying every 360 game is going to look truly next-gen, but the ones that do are going to pop some eyes.
I know I'm going to get the $399 pack, and I'm actually really looking forward to that "new system" moment of getting it home, setting it up, and booting up my first 360 game. It's going to be in super hi-def and I'm going to play it on my wireless pad. W00t!
jetjevons said:
agreed. i'm kinda pissed in that i really feel MS has bungled the pr handling of this whole thing. i feel mislead into believeing that the 360 would come w/ the hdd as the base. no splitting the market for it at all.
with that said, at 399, its not bad. realistically, it was bound to happen, consoles cant keep launching at 300, just cause that was the "magic price point" 10-15 years ago
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jetjevons said:
Good to hear. Man Paul's been busy with this and the new Hulk game.
Personally it's not the $399 price that is hurting. But rather, you'll have to buy a 2nd wireless controller to match the one you already own if you have any friends so that's really $450+tax for a launch system. Then if you want to play online wirelessly, you're talking about $600 before you even buy one game. Figure you're buying 2-3 games at launch @$60 each and the launch will run you almost
$800
For a new system and 3 games. That's a lot. I put away about $500-600 for the launch and a couple of games and now that'll just barely get me the system with some accesories.
Also you gotta realize all those kids who were expecting a system for Xmas will be getting rocks instead as their parents hear from the salespeople that not only do they need to buy a $299 system, but they also need a $40 memory card to save games and a $40 2nd controller if they have two kids in the house.
So in the end I think the system prices are fine, but neither bundle comes with everything you'd really want for a full-functioning system and since accesories prices are insane everyone gets screwed. Cut all the accesory prices by 50% and you'd have a pretty great launch, but at the current levels it's >_<
$800
For a new system and 3 games. That's a lot. I put away about $500-600 for the launch and a couple of games and now that'll just barely get me the system with some accesories.
Also you gotta realize all those kids who were expecting a system for Xmas will be getting rocks instead as their parents hear from the salespeople that not only do they need to buy a $299 system, but they also need a $40 memory card to save games and a $40 2nd controller if they have two kids in the house.
So in the end I think the system prices are fine, but neither bundle comes with everything you'd really want for a full-functioning system and since accesories prices are insane everyone gets screwed. Cut all the accesory prices by 50% and you'd have a pretty great launch, but at the current levels it's >_<
the $400 360 sku is the equivalent to the sony $250 psp sku (launched with base sku in japan).
there's a couple things that make it shocking. first, we were spoiled by ms's inclusion of the hard drive at seemingly no extra cost in xbox1. second, we all swore to death's end that the wireless controller would be standard in all systems and maybe that's our fault in thinking that.
the $400 sku really isnt that BAD of a deal. the only thing that sucks is that since you're pretty much forced to buy the $400 pack that leaves me with only one game at launch. because there's no way im going over $500
there's a couple things that make it shocking. first, we were spoiled by ms's inclusion of the hard drive at seemingly no extra cost in xbox1. second, we all swore to death's end that the wireless controller would be standard in all systems and maybe that's our fault in thinking that.
the $400 sku really isnt that BAD of a deal. the only thing that sucks is that since you're pretty much forced to buy the $400 pack that leaves me with only one game at launch. because there's no way im going over $500
My thoughts exactly. What would and could have been a sure 3-4 games at launch now looks like 1-2 games at launch.Joe said:the $400 sku really isnt that BAD of a deal. the only thing that sucks is that since you're pretty much forced to buy the $400 pack that leaves me with only one game at launch. because there's no way im going over $500
Izzy said:Oh, it's Dan Jevons. I'm looking forward to your game - you'd better not let me down.
Have I ever? j/k Starbreeze are putting their hearts into this game. I'm pretty confident about it. If you even barely liked Riddick you are going to flip out for Darkness.
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yeah splitting the market at launch was pretty crazy. i think the HDD should at least be standard. then MS is gonn split the split market again when they launch the HD-DVD addon??? someone wasnt thinking at that company. oh well launch day for me is the $399 unit, GR:AW, COD2, PGR3 and an empty checking account
What the hell happened with the WiFi Adapter? When Microsoft announced no Wifi Out-of-the-box at E3, everybody spun it by saying that they would have a low-cost USB Wifi adapter. Now it's $100? Why is this? Are they using a wireless bridge AGAIN? Why would they when they've got the ports to support a much cheaper alternative?
They can call you a retarded fanboy, but don't let 'em say you aren't hardcore. :lol Unfortunately after blowing that much income you will have to live in a cardboard box next to Starbucks and leech their free WiFi to get on Live (+$100 for WiFi adapter).
So let's see......at usual minimum wage ($5.50/hour) you will have to work 72 hours just to get the system with the hard drive and NO GAME. That's nearly two weeks at a job...nearly half a month's salary.Dopeyfish said:
They can call you a retarded fanboy, but don't let 'em say you aren't hardcore. :lol Unfortunately after blowing that much income you will have to live in a cardboard box next to Starbucks and leech their free WiFi to get on Live (+$100 for WiFi adapter).
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just picked up an hdtv about 2 months ago ivy. the sony LCD's are hotness.
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Reaction from Japan...
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MassiveAttack said:Reaction from Japan...
:lol
Pimpbaa said:
I don't give a flying fuck if they want to make money. I, as a consumer, want the most bang for my buck possible. I'm not saying that the $399 bundle is bad, I'm saying that the $299 bundle is.
What they should've done:
$299 Bundle - add in the HDD
$399 Bundle - add in 2 wireless controllers
Some of the features they showed off from Live are not available to the first bundle. How the hell am I to download demos/extras for games if I don't have the HDD?
I don't care for online play.
I can't afford an HDTV.
I don't sit far enough away from my tv set that I'd need a wireless controller.
Therefore, the $399 bundle is useless to me.
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Spike said:
How is the 299 bundle any worse from the release of the ps2? It didn't let you do all that stuff. Why are gamers all of a sudden demanding premium features? OMG MS is not selling the 360 with 8 wireless controllers and a 120 gig harddrive for 99 bucks OMFG what a ripoff!
Where did all these bitches come out from? Jeez!
This seems like a very reasonable pricing, all things considered. This has all to do with what the consumer needs, and different consumers have different needs.
You think that the casuals won't find the the $299 price alot more interesting? Most people just don't care that much about online gaming (even considering the good growth in numbers of online gamers across both the Xbox Live and PS2 online services). They certainly don't care if the controller is wireless or not, as long as it works. Hell, i've even read many people in this same forum complaining about Wireless controller being a standard! (possible lack of response, constant recharge, etc.). And it's not as if people aren't used to buying memory cards to save games or for whatever other purposes it may have. Afterall, Microsoft isn't only after the so called "Xbots". They're looking after that other piece of the market that is still untapped. The hardrive would be a great plus for the value pack, but remember that everyone in this market is in it for the money above all else. (you may argue this...). And besides, we really don't know how much important it is for gaming, especially since it has a lot more RAM than Xbox ever did (better loading times are assured). Let's not forget that a 64Mb memory card is a lot of memory and that multimedia content can be streamed through your PC while gaming (i'm saying this by heart, but i think it's right??). Oh and more importantly, why would one want an HD cable all things above considered? Whoever wants an HD cable is certain to want a wireless controller, an HDD, and whatever else that comes with the most expensive pack.
Quit it!
This seems like a very reasonable pricing, all things considered. This has all to do with what the consumer needs, and different consumers have different needs.
You think that the casuals won't find the the $299 price alot more interesting? Most people just don't care that much about online gaming (even considering the good growth in numbers of online gamers across both the Xbox Live and PS2 online services). They certainly don't care if the controller is wireless or not, as long as it works. Hell, i've even read many people in this same forum complaining about Wireless controller being a standard! (possible lack of response, constant recharge, etc.). And it's not as if people aren't used to buying memory cards to save games or for whatever other purposes it may have. Afterall, Microsoft isn't only after the so called "Xbots". They're looking after that other piece of the market that is still untapped. The hardrive would be a great plus for the value pack, but remember that everyone in this market is in it for the money above all else. (you may argue this...). And besides, we really don't know how much important it is for gaming, especially since it has a lot more RAM than Xbox ever did (better loading times are assured). Let's not forget that a 64Mb memory card is a lot of memory and that multimedia content can be streamed through your PC while gaming (i'm saying this by heart, but i think it's right??). Oh and more importantly, why would one want an HD cable all things above considered? Whoever wants an HD cable is certain to want a wireless controller, an HDD, and whatever else that comes with the most expensive pack.
Quit it!
Pimpbaa said:
Please.
All I want is a HDD in the base unit. It's what they gave us in the Xbox 1, and it should have been given to us in the base unit of the Xbox 360.
Stop bringing the PS2 into the equation. I'm referring to the Xbox line only.
Any Xbox fan who says this is a great idea is a tool. Plain and simple.
Pimpbaa said:
It's not. But MS is not Sony... IMHO the only reason that the xbox was as mildly successful as it was, was the fact that you got better graphics+better online+HDD out of the box for an awsome price. They where able to create a respectable userbase because they bleed out the ass for it. Of course MS still could be the better value next gen, we don't know about sonys plans yet. I just don't see MS winning more customers by offering less.
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sportzhead said:$400 for this! No thanks, you just made the wait for PS3 a whole lot easier MS.
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Microsoft can take their $399, wallguy, velocity girl and shove it up their ass.
People are dissapointed simple because of how MS let us believe that the standard(cheapest) SKU would come with a wireless controller and a HDD. Most of us then understood a few weeks back that that would not be entirely true and HDD would probably be removed... but who really thought they would replace the wireless controller with one with wires? Not me for sure.
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