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Lack of hype for Spider-Man 2
- Thread starter Mibu no ookami
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TheHolyGhost
Neo Member
Because just like the other sequels we've seen like GoWR and HFW it will probably be another extremely safe (no risk) game with minimal improvements in most areas over the previous game.
If only Insomniac had balls and turned the Spiderman Franchise into what Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor is, a game within the spiderverse but new characters, story and gameplay. Its going to be good ol spideyman and the plot is already known.
If only Insomniac had balls and turned the Spiderman Franchise into what Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor is, a game within the spiderverse but new characters, story and gameplay. Its going to be good ol spideyman and the plot is already known.
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semiconscious
Member
& i absolutely get this... but, the thing is, this works both ways - what's 'more of all i love' for some is simply 'deja vu' for myself & others...
BlackTron
Member
Spider-Man is bigger than that, but it sure doesn't help. I think if MM didn't happen, and the presentation didn't seem like what we have already with rails QTE, the hype would be stratospheric.
trent_the_gent
Banned
I liked the original and Miles Morales a lot but to be honest this just looks like more of the exact same.
Feels like an expansion pack rather than a new game. I'll play it whenever it shows up on PS+.
Feels like an expansion pack rather than a new game. I'll play it whenever it shows up on PS+.
Honestly after initial trailers I try not to watch many more. I just view them as being full of spoilers. I can’t be the only one, and I think it’s somewhat evidenced by the general decline in viewers of subsequent trailers. Many People who want to play it will have been sold on the first trailer and don’t need to see any more. 
SenkiDala
Member
I've to say I agree, we're seeing Starfield being VERY HYPE since MONTHS prior to the release, marketing was not so big but everybody talking about it. But for a big licence like SM2 nobody talks about it, almost, I am surprised. The licence that sold the MOST on the PS4, most popular console of last gen, from the most popular console brand PlayStation, coming out on the PS5 the new most popular console, and I dunno, people don't seem excited about it.
And me too. I loved SM1 and Miles Morales, and I'll get SM2, but honestly I can play it 6 months after release I don't care, I am not hurry.
And me too. I loved SM1 and Miles Morales, and I'll get SM2, but honestly I can play it 6 months after release I don't care, I am not hurry.
indigoSociety
Member
i cant wait to see how poorly this ages
bender
What time is it?
I enjoyed Spider-Man and I liked how Miles cut out some of the fat of the original but I think I've had my fill of that formula. A big part of my disinterest is not fault of Insomniacs as I want a new city to explore and expanding the map just isn't going to cut it for me.
BlitzerRadic
Member
Are people really thinking Sony dont know how to market their most popular IP? LMAO
Remember back before PS5 launched and after MS had revealed XSX people on gaf were making threads about how theres no hype for PS5 because no reveal, MS outhyping Sony etc.. Look how that turned out lol
Remember back before PS5 launched and after MS had revealed XSX people on gaf were making threads about how theres no hype for PS5 because no reveal, MS outhyping Sony etc.. Look how that turned out lol
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Is this going to be a thing going forward?
"Where is the hype/marketing for big AAA release that's 6 weeks away?"
That's what we're doing?
"Where is the hype/marketing for big AAA release that's 6 weeks away?"
That's what we're doing?
CrimsonSquall
Member
The marketing push will be big. Relax, Papa Sony always has a plan
kazuyamishima
Member
You underestimate kids and teenagers, the game will sell gangbusters
Sleepwalker
Member
It's just more Spiderman, third game in 5 years. I'm sure it'll be good but it's nothing new. It will sell really well regardless.
Check back again with Wolverine.
Check back again with Wolverine.
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Mibu no ookami
Banned
i cant wait to see how poorly this ages
In what way can this age poorly? Be specific.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
I think it'll outsell CoD, even though it was multiplatform. Spider-Man 2 is going to be the best-selling game in October, November, and probably December. It doesn't have much competition for the rest of the year.
Sleepwalker
Member
I don't know, CoD will release in november tho so it'll have a few weeks for itself. (FIFA/EAFC) releases on september 29th so most of its sales will probably come in october. Then you have Super Mario Wonder which is guaranteed to sell 10 million like basically every first party switch game. I guess we'll see.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
My point was that despite how many views it has and how well it will still sell, I don't hear anyone talking about it.
People were hyped for Zelda, Diablo, and Baldur's Gate, all sequels, but for some reason not much discussion around Spider-Man, a sequel to one of the best-selling games in history.
That's strange, but I do think it's because it looks like a safe formulaic game and it's the 3rd Spider-Man game in 5 years as someone mentioned.
I don't think anyone is refuting that it is going to sell bonkers, but it doesn't have the buzz that Zelda or Elden Ring had. A game that sells this much usually has a lot of buzz and conversation around it. This game has almost zero. It has even less buzz than God of War did last year.
Virex
Banned
Capeshit is losing popularity again. I like Spiderman but there's been an overdose of capeshit the last couple of years in all form of entertainment. Same thing is happening to Star Wars. These things used to be a treat because we got these games/movies once in a while. Now it's a constant bombardment of capeshit.
I'm sure it will still sell a shitload. But less than Spiderman 1 on PS4
I'm sure it will still sell a shitload. But less than Spiderman 1 on PS4
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Crispy Gamer
Member
Yuuup and it'll continue to sell for the rest of the generation I don't think we'll see Spider-Man 3 until PS6 launch
Mibu no ookami
Banned
CoD tends to peak at some point during the generation. It's a pretty generic release, much more so than Spider-Man. Not saying SM2 definitely outsells it, but if it's anywhere in the ballpark of a 90, SM2 has a very good chance of being #3 or #4 for the year. Mario Wonder will be very high as well, but I don't think as high as Spider-Man 2.
Mario Odyssey did about 26 million copies. I expect Wonder will do worse given that the Switch is dying down. It'll have legs, but I think everyone who buys a PS5 for the holidays is going to buy Spider-Man in North America and Europe. It's going to be the number #1 PS5 game by far.
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
My son absolutely loves Spiderman, the movies and the games and he's happy to wait till Xmas to get it, he just didn't see anything Whoaaa to make him want it day1 and personally I thought it looked a bit meh, honestly you could've told me that was running on a Pro and I would've believed you
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Spider-Man doesn't wear a cape.
Sleepwalker
Member
PS5 only maybe sure, with COD its hard to know, they only reported it took them 15 days to reach 1 billion in sales and that it was the biggest PS store launch ever for the series but no actual copies sold.
FIFA 23 sold 10.3 million copies in its first week last year.
Barakov
Member
The hype definitely seems pretty muted for this one. Maybe it's because we've had quite a few bangers this year so it seems people have learned to pace themselves as far as hype goes, ie. don't get too excited too soon.
There's still over a month before it comes out so I'll think we'll see more excitement in a couple weeks.
There's still over a month before it comes out so I'll think we'll see more excitement in a couple weeks.
SenkiDala
Member
I don't think that's the subject, of course it'll sell, will maybe be the best seller of all the generation for a 1st party game. But just it's true that there's almost no hype about it.
In my opinion it's because it looks too similar from the previous one, the map is the same + 1% extras, and OF COURSE it has to be the same, it's SM after all so yes it is in New York but... It could be in another city, another country... With some moments in NYC since the map is already done since SM1... Yeah for me that's what kills the hype, the game looks very fun, but it looks like an add on to the 1st one, because it is just the same map with 3 new powers or something like this. Not enough to get me excited.
Virex
Banned
Not all heroes wear capes
splattered
Member
Not worried about hype, i already preordered the physical launch edition.
Unknown?
Member
Not when it was with Activision. Thank God it's not!
Virex
Banned
I feel like these days games get way way way more hyped up by developers, publishers and communities to a point where the hype can never live up to the actual game and people feel angry, sad, make a youtube channel to say "why x games is actually bad."
Games are overhyped these days which leaves most disappointed. There's too many things wrong with the game industry and it's getting worse.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Didn't some of you guys said the same about GOWR and then it sold gangbusters shattering Sony's sales records for a 1st party game? These threads are honestly pathetic.
Pagusas
Elden Member
The trailers were underwhelming, and we've had 2 giants just launch. Its been a crazy packed Fall. The game is still going to be amazing. Release day people will be buzzing. I'll likely wait on the game though as Starfield and BG3 have me booked right now.
This fall is seriously amazing. 3 generation defining games within this short period of time. Add Zelda Totk and a Armor Core 6, this year has just been nuts.
This fall is seriously amazing. 3 generation defining games within this short period of time. Add Zelda Totk and a Armor Core 6, this year has just been nuts.
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Camreezie
Member
This year has had hyped up releases from some of the biggest franchises month to month back to back, thats why
- Final Fantasy XVI
- Street Fighter 6
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- TLOZ Tears of The Kingdom
- Starfield
- Diablo IV
Bonus round but less big series
- Dead Space Remake
- Baldurs Gate 3
- Armored Core 6
Its a marathon year with tentpole releases everywhere of course some of the games towards the end of the year arent going to have as much attention. Spiderman is dropping in a month with : Assassins Creed , Mario and Alan Wake too
We've also yet to have heavy hitters like Mortal Kombat and Call of Duty. Ridiculously stacked year
- Final Fantasy XVI
- Street Fighter 6
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- TLOZ Tears of The Kingdom
- Starfield
- Diablo IV
Bonus round but less big series
- Dead Space Remake
- Baldurs Gate 3
- Armored Core 6
Its a marathon year with tentpole releases everywhere of course some of the games towards the end of the year arent going to have as much attention. Spiderman is dropping in a month with : Assassins Creed , Mario and Alan Wake too
We've also yet to have heavy hitters like Mortal Kombat and Call of Duty. Ridiculously stacked year
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I hope it does something really surprising and everyone's like "Holy shit I didn't expect that"
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
It's not the first game of the year where there's plenty of awareness, but not much palpable excitement.
For me, it's mostly because of how similar it looks to Miles Morales and Spider-Man 1, and how un-inticing the story seems so far. They barely seem to have improved anything, and the additions look like total half-steps. They've added the black suit, but other than the canned specials and maybe one or two moves, it's barely distinguishable from the red suit. They've not upgraded the webswinging at all beyond how fast you can go, and the animation systems honestly don't line up with that type of momentum.
The first problem has no getting around it until and unless Insomniac decides to rip out the foundations for Spider-Man 3. If they wanted the kind of hype the first game or other stuff like TLOU2 or Cyberpunk got, or even what Wolverine might get, they'd need to change up the gameplay and design structure massively. Less Arkham, more Web of Shadows, but even then they'd have to make contemporary enhancements. The open world would have to be a lot more interesting and well designed. Destruction, interiors, interesting side quests full of different villains and other heroes.
Who knows the content of the game, but the mechanical foundations are totally last gen, and limit how that content can be expressed.
For me, it's mostly because of how similar it looks to Miles Morales and Spider-Man 1, and how un-inticing the story seems so far. They barely seem to have improved anything, and the additions look like total half-steps. They've added the black suit, but other than the canned specials and maybe one or two moves, it's barely distinguishable from the red suit. They've not upgraded the webswinging at all beyond how fast you can go, and the animation systems honestly don't line up with that type of momentum.
The first problem has no getting around it until and unless Insomniac decides to rip out the foundations for Spider-Man 3. If they wanted the kind of hype the first game or other stuff like TLOU2 or Cyberpunk got, or even what Wolverine might get, they'd need to change up the gameplay and design structure massively. Less Arkham, more Web of Shadows, but even then they'd have to make contemporary enhancements. The open world would have to be a lot more interesting and well designed. Destruction, interiors, interesting side quests full of different villains and other heroes.
Who knows the content of the game, but the mechanical foundations are totally last gen, and limit how that content can be expressed.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
That's a hardcore bubble for ya.
Lupin25
Member
The “artificial hype”, is like a byproduct of modern extreme fanboyism. It’s a sickness that’s made an even worse impression on devs who have to live up to illogical expectations.
That, and with every publisher’s neck on the line to break even, you’ll continue to see more intentional false advertisement to sell these $70 games.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Peter parker = Total win
Miles = Total fail.
Miles = Total fail.
Robbinhood
Banned
Sony fans don't need to convince others to buy these games, they buy them cause they are fun. Would you prefer 100 SM2 threads like that other game? That shit was nasty.