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NihonTiger90 said:
True, and that sounds like a worthy choice.

Speaking of which: geeky pursuits and quirks -- are they things the usual girl does not mind as long as they are not too weird or too quirky? My experience tells me "Yes, except for the uptightest of the uptight," but most of my female friends are fellow geeks, so my experiences are shaped as such.
Well, I love quirk. They are charming decorations if they are on a good base, kind of like a xmas tree. They make you unique and possibly even more awesome, but they shouldn't overshadow the rest of you. A quirk or hobby/geeky pursuit should not be so big that it consumes most of your brainspace or is only there to fill/cover some kind of messed up part of your life. I guess an example would be like.. an addiction or extremist politico-ideological leaning.

Of course, some poeple just have lots of quirks or even problems in their life and you should do your best to work on them or minimize them. I think most girls that see a good/possibly compatible person will give you points if they see you're trying to better yourself in some way.

Also, I wouldn't go for any girl that is too uptight or picky and puts you down for your hobbies. They can't look past videogames or comics or whatever as immature/beneath them? Then you shouldn't look past that they are probably boring party poopers.
 
i remember reading a thread a few days ago about some guy who thought he'd never be able to find anyone because "nobody else likes video games!". I don't think girls (who are at all worth dating) would look down on you for being a gamer - it would be extra awesome if she were a gamer too! But if she isn't, don't give up on her. Relationships aren't about having all the same hobbies, as that guy seemed to think. You may even manage to get her into playing (though I guess that depends on how willing you are to lose. Pretty sure my bf's laddering is all messed up because whenever I play with him we lose. I have fun though!). Don't get too caught up in gaming if she isn't into it. On one hand she needs to recognise you have your hobbies but if she comes round don't sit at the computer.

Hawkian said:
The similarities of the two above avatars are freaking me out.

woah awesome!
 
Just a quick bit of advice on how I should handle this situation.

So I worked with this girl (she quit last week). About 2 weeks ago I was on a night out with her and her mates. I want her mate, did my usual chatting shit routine. Seemed to work she added me on fb the next day asking if I was going out next week.

Now the girl I work with, shes coming out of a long-term relationship whilst baning some other dude, so I paid no attention to her. Starting flirting with her mate on fb and text a bit. The other night the girl I worked with comes on "Are you flirting with *other girl*?" I say nothign other than "she said that?". Instantly she goes offline doesnt reply to my texts or anything.

The next day I text her, she texts back, pretends like we never spoke the day before. I don't get it, is she jealous? I'm supposed to be out Saturday with her mate, who I will definitely hit on. But I don't want my friend (because she is a mate) getting pissed at me.

I don't get this, should I hit on her or leave it? She's pretty hot. Out of my league hot, but I don't care I think I can persuade her i'm a big shot. Is my mate jealous?

How do chicks work?
 
shanshan310 said:
i remember reading a thread a few days ago about some guy who thought he'd never be able to find anyone because "nobody else likes video games!". I don't think girls (who are at all worth dating) would look down on you for being a gamer - it would be extra awesome if she were a gamer too! But if she isn't, don't give up on her. Relationships aren't about having all the same hobbies, as that guy seemed to think. You may even manage to get her into playing (though I guess that depends on how willing you are to lose. Pretty sure my bf's laddering is all messed up because whenever I play with him we lose. I have fun though!). Don't get too caught up in gaming if she isn't into it. On one hand she needs to recognise you have your hobbies but if she comes round don't sit at the computer.

Absolutely this.
 
Hawkian said:
The similarities of the two above avatars are freaking me out.
Hahaha!

But we are like opposites, you see.
I am the goodguy, and DKnight can be the badguy.

Soru said:
Just a quick bit of advice on how I should handle this situation.

So I worked with this girl (she quit last week). About 2 weeks ago I was on a night out with her and her mates. I want her mate, did my usual chatting shit routine. Seemed to work she added me on fb the next day asking if I was going out next week.

Now the girl I work with, shes coming out of a long-term relationship whilst baning some other dude, so I paid no attention to her. Starting flirting with her mate on fb and text a bit. The other night the girl I worked with comes on "Are you flirting with *other girl*?" I say nothign other than "she said that?". Instantly she goes offline doesnt reply to my texts or anything.

The next day I text her, she texts back, pretends like we never spoke the day before. I don't get it, is she jealous? I'm supposed to be out Saturday with her mate, who I will definitely hit on. But I don't want my friend (because she is a mate) getting pissed at me.

I don't get this, should I hit on her or leave it? She's pretty hot. Out of my league hot, but I don't care I think I can persuade her i'm a big shot. Is my mate jealous?

How do chicks work?
Yeah, your work mate sounds jealous. Haha.

Were I you, I'd ask what's up with your work mate because it seemed like she didn't like hearing that you may have been flirting with her friend. Then I'd go out with other girl anyway. >_> You snooze, you lose, lady! She doesn't really have a right to be pissed anyway. Dashing Prax don't play those games.
 
Professor Beef said:
YOU BET!
But no on the speedos. And nose piercing.
Boxer briefs, baby. No body piercings or markings.
(though I think guys with earrings or brow rings and tattoos are cool too)

DKnight said:
Ok, I'll bring the duct tape, can you get the candles
Candles? That's not a dashing goodguy item. >_>
Swords and capes or bust!
 
Prax said:
YOU BET!
But no on the speedos. And nose piercing.
Boxer briefs, baby. No body piercings or markings.
(though I think guys with earrings or brow rings and tattoos are cool too)

Will you bring back the Triforce boots?
 
Ladygaf, a girl from Calgary came over to salsa. Wasn't for me of course (did make a joke on it), but I had to leave early for work tommorow. We're "light" friends from salsa courses many moons ago.

But... I committed the cardinal sin of dating a "potential" girl: I messaged her on FB right away when I got home. I don't normally do this, but this time I guess I felt like I could have done way more.

What is GirlGaf's opinion on a guy that messages you (let's say 30 min) after meeting you? And I am prepared to cringe at some answers lol
 
Prax said:
Yeah, your work mate sounds jealous. Haha.

Were I you, I'd ask what's up with your work mate because it seemed like she didn't like hearing that you may have been flirting with her friend. Then I'd go out with other girl anyway. >_> You snooze, you lose, lady! She doesn't really have a right to be pissed anyway. Dashing Prax don't play those games.

Well, it looks like it doesn't matter now. Was going to a little warm-up flirting before tomorrow, but it's pretty evident my work mate has said something thats put this other girl right off. Now all i'm getting are responses like "lol" "ok".

My work mate screwed me.
 
Soru said:
Well, it looks like it doesn't matter now. Was going to a little warm-up flirting before tomorrow, but it's pretty evident my work mate has said something thats put this other girl right off. Now all i'm getting are responses like "lol" "ok".

My work mate screwed me.

uh oh :s I wouldn't go after your old workmate.. If you're into this other girl I'd ask her to come clean on what's going on. Workmate might not have been honest in talking about you.

I had a "friend" in high school who completely turned on me after I started dating my bf. There were a couple of people I tried to be friends with, but they'd soon start avoiding me. I was really confused until one girl said "X told me not to talk to you anymore". ugh! Girl politics. After that I only hung out with guys basically until graduation.
 
There was a good post on reddit a couple days ago that explained some things that I think I was aware of and logically knew, but hadn't internalized it properly yet.

I guess it might be interesting to the forever alone crowd.

Homosocial bonding is different between men and women, and this causes a lot of confusion and why it's assumed that men and women cannot be friends.
Men see their friendships as camaraderie, hanging out, occasional complaining, and chilling. There's plenty of support mechanisms in place, but they're not intimate, per se.
Women on the other hand are intimate, affectionate, they talk more about how they feel than how things happened. The support mechanisms are explicitly intimate.
So, men who are not used to intimate physical contact and discourse have to translate a person of the opposite sex being physically and emotionally intimate beyond the boundaries of relationships he is used to.
Women may say that this is really the man's fault for getting his hopes up, but it's worth noting that scientists have found that this disparity in relationships has an actual significant effect on different genders. Men and women are programmed differently.
As the study shows, women share their emotional intimacy through much broader networks. They don't restrain it for that one special person. They give it out freely. They take it in easily.
And also, as the study shows, men reserve their emotional intimacy for one special person. They rely on that person. They hold back until they find someone they can trust and then pour it out to them.
This actually makes male intimacy a far more dear thing than female intimacy. This is why men "overreact." This is why men panic. Above all, this is why the Nice Guy misreads his interactions with a woman he likes.
Of course, this has an interesting side-effect. To wit, when bad relationships end and men are single, they actually do better emotionally than single women do because what a man derived from the relationship had a higher cost for him. Men don't mind being called "single," what they mind is having their only intimate outlet being in jeopardy or, worse, being turned against them, such as in a bad relationship.
EDIT: fixed the wording of the above.
In opposition to this, when women are single, they actually do worse than when they are in bad relationships. A woman in a bad relationship still has her emotional network intact. A woman who is single has instead had her relationship status changed.
Now you can look at the nice guy phenomenon through a sharper lens. Men are used to emotional intimacy being saved for a special person, women are not. Women find emotional stability in poor romantic relationships, while men do not.
This confuses the fuck out of the Nice Guy. None of this makes sense. A woman is being emotionally intimate with him, he thinks he's special since that's how he would act. A woman stays in a bad relationship, he thinks it's illogical since that's not how he would act. Combined, this becomes the "I would be good to you, what's wrong with you!" mindset.
Of course, he doesn't understand that a woman has cultivated many intimate relationships with friends and family while he has been working on the one trying to develop a romance. The woman doesn't need to get her emotional support from her romantic relationship. In fact, she can spend all day talking about how bad her relationship is -- but at least she's not single, and maybe her partner provides some other value beyond emotional intimacy.
In regard to how the nice guy is viewed, the woman sees his actions as those of just another friend, since that's how she would act toward her friends -- freely intimate, physically affectionate. When the guy doesn't get what he wants, she will sometimes feel betrayed, primarily because he has willingly integrated himself into her network and then has destroyed the status quo.
Ninja-Edit: It's worth noting that there become unspoken non-rules about flirting and relationships. If a man is physically affectionate with multiple women, it's probably safe to befriend him since he probably isn't going to balk at his intimacy not developing into romance. It also probably means that he's not going to respond to romantic advances as quickly. Interestingly enough, this may all be at the root of our inculcated romantic steps. Men are usually non-intimate, so intimacy means romantic interest. Women are usually intimate, so sexual interest means romantic interest. Oddly enough, there is still an expectation for men to make the first move in such an environment.
Over the years, a mix of misogyny, misandry, entitlement, and sheer ignorance and indifference to all parties involved have turned this issue into a point of contention. Everyone is trying to translate it through a universal precept of human interaction, often ceding to one side or the other points they have not actually managed to make out of politeness or self-loathing or whatever.
As you can see, men get over it faster than women do. Not universally, of course, but men are more comfortable being single than women are. This is where the myth of "commitment-phobic" men comes in. For men, advances in one's relationship are emotionally expensive, each step more costly than the next. For women, it is effectively a status change.
Like all studies, generalizations are merely a recognition of the trend in a group. Personal anecdotes and asides are all well and good and I am not trying to discount them. That said, the trends are apparent.
TL;DR Male platonic relationships are friendly camaraderie, female platonic relationships are intimate and physical. When men try to be friends with women, they sometimes misinterpret each other's intent and feel betrayed when things do not go as expected.
This also has an effect on initiated romantic relationships as well, since each partner is investing and seeking something different in each stage.

I can TL;DR it in a different way if it helps.

Basically, this is saying that women are emotionally and physically intimate even in their platonic relationships. Generally speaking, male relationships are not like this, they're about hanging out etc. So when a guy encounters a girl and she is being intimate like that it can easily be misinterpreted by the guy as "she wants my dick!" even though that's not at all what it means to her.
 
shanshan310 said:
i remember reading a thread a few days ago about some guy who thought he'd never be able to find anyone because "nobody else likes video games!". I don't think girls (who are at all worth dating) would look down on you for being a gamer - it would be extra awesome if she were a gamer too! But if she isn't, don't give up on her. Relationships aren't about having all the same hobbies, as that guy seemed to think. You may even manage to get her into playing (though I guess that depends on how willing you are to lose. Pretty sure my bf's laddering is all messed up because whenever I play with him we lose. I have fun though!). Don't get too caught up in gaming if she isn't into it. On one hand she needs to recognise you have your hobbies but if she comes round don't sit at the computer.

Also, I'd like to point out that having shared interests is the worst reason to start dating someone. Two people should have a genuine interest in each other, with the activity being an added plus.

hydragonwarrior said:
Ladygaf, a girl from Calgary came over to salsa. Wasn't for me of course (did make a joke on it), but I had to leave early for work tommorow. We're "light" friends from salsa courses many moons ago.

But... I committed the cardinal sin of dating a "potential" girl: I messaged her on FB right away when I got home. I don't normally do this, but this time I guess I felt like I could have done way more.

What is GirlGaf's opinion on a guy that messages you (let's say 30 min) after meeting you? And I am prepared to cringe at some answers lol

Haha, if she came up from Calgary, you're probably in the same city as I am :) But at any rate, there's no sure-fire rule about when to message a girl. If she's into you and you phrase your message right, then it doesn't matter when you message her.

PS. The Salsa scene in Alberta is surprisingly big too. I don't do much of it anymore :(
 
SRG01 said:
Also, I'd like to point out that having shared interests is the worst reason to start dating someone. Two people should have a genuine interest in each other, with the activity being an added plus.

What sucks is when you've been in a long term relationship and interests shift.
 
Devolution said:
What sucks is when you've been in a long term relationship and interests shift.

Oh definitely. I've seen dancers where one half just decides not to dance anymore.

I think the most important thing is for couples to develop genuine bonding activities, and to have a good variety of them in case one of them gets stale.
 
SRG01 said:
Also, I'd like to point out that having shared interests is the worst reason to start dating someone. Two people should have a genuine interest in each other, with the activity being an added plus.



Haha, if she came up from Calgary, you're probably in the same city as I am :) But at any rate, there's no sure-fire rule about when to message a girl. If she's into you and you phrase your message right, then it doesn't matter when you message her.

PS. The Salsa scene in Alberta is surprisingly big too. I don't do much of it anymore :(

AlbertaGAF holler
 
Wormdundee said:
There was a good post on reddit a couple days ago that explained some things that I think I was aware of and logically knew, but hadn't internalized it properly yet.

I guess it might be interesting to the forever alone crowd.



I can TL;DR it in a different way if it helps.

Basically, this is saying that women are emotionally and physically intimate even in their platonic relationships. Generally speaking, male relationships are not like this, they're about hanging out etc. So when a guy encounters a girl and she is being intimate like that it can easily be misinterpreted by the guy as "she wants my dick!" even though that's not at all what it means to her.

This is kind of cool. I think there are definitely two categories of guy, this one describes the one that women generally don't want.
 
So how long does it usually take for a girl's feelings to "fully develop"? I know that a woman's heart usually moves slower than a guy's...
 
Can someone help me dig up the conversation about the word "aww"? Some girl was telling me that it means a girl is flirting when they use it...
 
cooljeanius said:
Can someone help me dig up the conversation about the word "aww"? Some girl was telling me that it means a girl is flirting when they use it...

Really? Whenever a girl 'awws' me, it feels like she's saying "I am never going to touch your penis".
 
cooljeanius said:
Can someone help me dig up the conversation about the word "aww"? Some girl was telling me that it means a girl is flirting when they use it...

From what I recall the whole "awww" conversation put forth the notion that a girl/woman pities you if she's says it and isn't going to go there with you.
 
SRG01 said:
So how long does it usually take for a girl's feelings to "fully develop"? I know that a woman's heart usually moves slower than a guy's...
Depends on the guy, depends on the girl, depends on the kind of bond. This is one case where there is no "usual".

If you have a sense of the girl's history, you can get a better sense of how long she'll take to hook - some of us fall hard, and fast; others take a lot of time before we let someone in.
 
Devolution said:
What? lol.

Wait, you mean it doesn't? lol

Anyhow, a bunch of my friends (and my GF) told me recently that their feelings always take a bit of time to develop into something stronger (on the order of 6-8 months). Is this actually true? Granted I'm also making a distinction between that initial attraction and "love"...

BladeWorker said:
Depends on the guy, depends on the girl, depends on the kind of bond. This is one case where there is no "usual".

If you have a sense of the girl's history, you can get a better sense of how long she'll take to hook - some of us fall hard, and fast; others take a lot of time before we let someone in.

Hmm, fair point.

edit: I guess I should know that it differs for everyone, but my experience has always told me otherwise.
 
SRG01 said:
Wait, you mean it doesn't? lol

Anyhow, a bunch of my friends (and my GF) told me recently that their feelings always take a bit of time to develop into something stronger (on the order of 6-8 months). Is this actually true? Granted I'm also making a distinction between that initial attraction and "love"...

Bladeworker put it well above you. It just depends. Plus are we talking hooking up as strangers or friends? I fell pretty fast for the BF since we were pals already.
 
Devolution said:
Bladeworker put it well above you. It just depends. Plus are we talking hooking up as strangers or friends? I fell pretty fast for the BF since we were pals already.

A bit of both, perhaps. I know that it always depends but UGH it's always hard to put away my own experiences and history, as well as hers.
 
Kinitari said:
Really? Whenever a girl 'awws' me, it feels like she's saying "I am never going to touch your penis".
Devolution said:
From what I recall the whole "awww" conversation put forth the notion that a girl/woman pities you if she's says it and isn't going to go there with you.
Yeah, I know that's the consensus we came to here on GAF, I was just looking for some help finding some links to the original conversation we had about it...
 
So right now, I'm in a very "do not get serious and settle down with any girls" part of my life, which is a bit difficult for me but it feels important.

But there is this one girl I sort of met, who is so damn... freaking awesome, I feel like if she were to want something relationship-y from me, I would want to get into a monogamous tied down relationship immediately and hold on to her tight. That sounds a bit creepier than I am intending, basically what I am saying is, she seems exactly my type.

Two parts to this question. Is it weird for me to remain friends with her? She actually originally tried to 'pick me up', but it never went anywhere because before we really got things going, we spent some time apart and sort of fell into it with different people. She is now in a semi-serious relationship. She obviously knows I am interested in her, but I never make any moves and I sincerely just enjoy her company.

Second part, is it weird that I feel like I -shouldn't- be in any serious relationships right now? Have you ever thought about any males you know "that guy just needs to be single for a while"? Because that seems to be everyone's conclusion for me, and while I agree with their points, sometimes I feel the urge to get serious again.
 
Kinitari said:
So right now, I'm in a very "do not get serious and settle down with any girls" part of my life, which is a bit difficult for me but it feels important.

But there is this one girl I sort of met, who is so damn... freaking awesome, I feel like if she were to want something relationship-y from me, I would want to get into a monogamous tied down relationship immediately and hold on to her tight. That sounds a bit creepier than I am intending, basically what I am saying is, she seems exactly my type.

Two parts to this question. Is it weird for me to remain friends with her? She actually originally tried to 'pick me up', but it never went anywhere because before we really got things going, we spent some time apart and sort of fell into it with different people. She is now in a semi-serious relationship. She obviously knows I am interested in her, but I never make any moves and I sincerely just enjoy her company.

Second part, is it weird that I feel like I -shouldn't- be in any serious relationships right now? Have you ever thought about any males you know "that guy just needs to be single for a while"? Because that seems to be everyone's conclusion for me, and while I agree with their points, sometimes I feel the urge to get serious again.

Keep her as a friend if you can handle it, otherwise if she gets really serious, there might be some drama ahead. Ask yourself if you can deal with that. This might not be you but I feel like some people hang on to friendships hoping that when they do get the urge to settle down, the one they're really interested in will be waiting. It's a sad state of affairs when they don't feel the same or have waited too long and eventually move on themselves.
 
Wormdundee said:
There was a good post on reddit a couple days ago that explained some things that I think I was aware of and logically knew, but hadn't internalized it properly yet.

I guess it might be interesting to the forever alone crowd.



I can TL;DR it in a different way if it helps.

Basically, this is saying that women are emotionally and physically intimate even in their platonic relationships. Generally speaking, male relationships are not like this, they're about hanging out etc. So when a guy encounters a girl and she is being intimate like that it can easily be misinterpreted by the guy as "she wants my dick!" even though that's not at all what it means to her.


what makes this post interesting, is its a good way not to just see the way nice guys react to a womans lack of sensitivity, but also how women feel much more threatened by opposite sex relationships than men do.

For a guy, a platonic friendship with a girl is just about chilling and hanging out, they cant see why thats such a big deal to a their partner, who knows that the other woman in question is a actually using her man as some kind of emotional support system - support that a girlfriend feels should be exclusively hers.

Its something ive had to deal with many times in the past and it never ends pretty.
 
I met my girlfriend doing salsa, but I think it was the comment about me keeping her vagina safe from dance floor man claw that really won her over.
 
SRG01 said:
Anyhow, a bunch of my friends (and my GF) told me recently that their feelings always take a bit of time to develop into something stronger (on the order of 6-8 months). Is this actually true? Granted I'm also making a distinction between that initial attraction and "love"...
I've seen this written. I don't believe it's absolutely true - but bonds that somehow manage to last beyond a given period are more likely (in terms of the laws of statistics) to have survived fights, personality differences, learning things about one another that you will probably not completely adore, etc. Those bonds are generally considered much stronger.

edit: I guess I should know that it differs for everyone, but my experience has always told me otherwise.
We humans generally go for a particular type, so our experience generally confirms what we've had happen in the past.
 
Devolution said:
Keep her as a friend if you can handle it, otherwise if she gets really serious, there might be some drama ahead. Ask yourself if you can deal with that. This might not be you but I feel like some people hang on to friendships hoping that when they do get the urge to settle down, the one they're really interested in will be waiting. It's a sad state of affairs when they don't feel the same or have waited too long and eventually move on themselves.

I'm pretty sure I'd be able to handle it. But you make a good point, I'll be honest and say that - if I ever feel like I'm ready to settle down, I hope she'll be in a similar place. But... she's just cool to hang around, and I am not pining and she doesn't seem to be either. I guess if stuff gets weird, I'll have to cut and run.
 
BladeWorker said:
I've seen this written. I don't believe it's absolutely true - but bonds that somehow manage to last beyond a given period are more likely (in terms of the laws of statistics) to have survived fights, personality differences, learning things about one another that you will probably not completely adore, etc. Those bonds are generally considered much stronger.


We humans generally go for a particular type, so our experience generally confirms what we've had happen in the past.

There's some truth to that I think, considering that I always find myself falling for the emotionally unavailable ones, or ones with an extended history.

But yes, I generally agree with what you wrote. My GF and I are still getting to know each other, and -- despite knowing some undesirables -- I think it's generally stronger than my previous relationships when we didn't take the time to build those bonds.
 
SRG01 said:
I think the most important thing is for couples to develop genuine bonding activities, and to have a good variety of them in case one of them gets stale.
Anyone have some quick suggestions for such activities? Apparently dancing is big.
 
So ladygaf, how would you feel if your guy spent more on clothes than you do? I just had a friend tell me it was "Kinda gay."
 
Alucrid said:
So ladygaf, how would you feel if your guy spent more on clothes than you do? I just had a friend tell me it was "Kinda gay."


Not a chick, but are you comparatively wealthy? If you make more money you can therefore spend more on a given thing without it being a big deal. To use the extreme example, it's not "kinda gay" if a millionaire buys a ton of nice suits.
 
Stormtrooper30 said:
Anyone have some quick suggestions for such activities? Apparently dancing is big.

Recreational sports/activities in general are a good way to go: dancing, skating, rollerblading, soccer, rock climbing, wrestling...

Doing things that explore new things: walking/hiking in different parts of town, aiming to find the best coffee/pizza/burritos/sushi in town, do-it-yourself book club, board games, movie buff...

Doing a class together - cooking, pottery, ballroom dancing, improv acting...
 
fredrancour said:
Not a chick, but are you comparatively wealthy? If you make more money you can therefore spend more on a given thing without it being a big deal. To use the extreme example, it's not "kinda gay" if a millionaire buys a ton of nice suits.

Not at all. I just budget efficiently so I can.
 
Alucrid said:
So ladygaf, how would you feel if your guy spent more on clothes than you do? I just had a friend tell me it was "Kinda gay."

Men's clothes are generally more expensive though and second hand stores rarely have good stuff for men, since many men wear their stuff till it falls apart rather than from season to season.

Basically I wouldn't care unless they'd rather purchase clothes than shit they really need.
 
fredrancour said:
Not a chick, but are you comparatively wealthy? If you make more money you can therefore spend more on a given thing without it being a big deal. To use the extreme example, it's not "kinda gay" if a millionaire buys a ton of nice suits.
Rather, it's the percentage of income you spend on clothes that is what's telling (comparatively speaking).
 
Ducky_McGee said:
If you are a lady and you would like to confirm this statement you may proceed. If you are a man and you have tried this method and it has proven true you are also encouraged to say so.

I can confirm that my girlfriend read your OP and said, "Okay she's full of shit."
 
cabot said:
I can confirm that my girlfriend read your OP and said, "Okay she's full of shit."

Oh I don't know if she's full of shit - these sorts of rules aren't universal - but does your girlfriend think a lot of girls aren't attracted to a guy who can dance/is willing to dance?
 
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