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There are so many etiquette angles on "who pays" it's bound to tie people in knots.

Like others I have no problems (at least conceptually) with going dutch on the first couple of dates. After awhile and things get committed, being treated (and doing the treating) from time to time is nice, though - and as always, courtesy should apply. Offer to contribute to the bill (or cover your share) with emphasis proportionate to the anticipated cost of your meal.
 
Hey woah, this is pretty dead.

I call upon the wisdom of girl/lady gaf, in case any of them bother to see this, to ask them a question:

Splitting the bill on the first date. What's your opinion on that?

I'd say first date you should both definitely go dutch.

Unfortunately, some guys seem to think that if they pay for the meal it means that they're owed something in return so I try to avoid that by always paying for myself.
 
This is a test post to see if any of LadyGAF are still subscribed to/on the lookout for this thread.

I had a question earlier but I thought this thread was well and truly dead so I just sorted it on my own. Still, it would be nice to get this back.
 
The resident female population can hardly advise when males don't query it :)

It's funny how I dislike the term 'lady'...
 
must be a stupid question because I know the answer but anyway - has any woman present on this forum know some other woman who was choosing men by making lists? like there are 2 or 3 guys and she compares them by categories in excel? I know about at least 3 women who do this but I thought that it may be some local thing and women in civilized countries DON'T DO THIS.
 
must be a stupid question because I know the answer but anyway - has any woman present on this forum know some other woman who was choosing men by making lists? like there are 2 or 3 guys and she compares them by categories in excel? I know about at least 3 women who do this but I thought that it may be some local thing and women in civilized countries DON'T DO THIS.

I've never seen someone use software like excel to do this.
 
The resident female population can hardly advise when males don't query it :)

It's funny how I dislike the term 'lady'...
Touché!

must be a stupid question because I know the answer but anyway - has any woman present on this forum know some other woman who was choosing men by making lists? like there are 2 or 3 guys and she compares them by categories in excel? I know about at least 3 women who do this but I thought that it may be some local thing and women in civilized countries DON'T DO THIS.
The girl I'm currently dating has a spreadsheet that she shares with her best friend on all the men they've met from OKCupid. It's got notes about the person like "Crazy republican", "nutjob", "creepy", "won't let me pay", etc., etc.

They tend to get messages from many of the same guys so they decided that, to avoid awkward situations, they should probably keep a record.

I have no idea how common this is though.
 
There was the one girl who made the list of her past dates of the year, pros and cons of the dudes, including sex details, etc. It was online, all over the reddits and sites like that. I don't think it's a normal thing, but I wouldn't doubt that people make lists, be they unofficially mental, or official and physical.

Also, I am lost, what is this thread?

Currently scoping out this super super hot middle aged woman. It's crazy how hot she is. She looks like an elfin creature or something, but has like a silver streak in the front of her black hair. That's how I know she's older.
 
Touché!


The girl I'm currently dating has a spreadsheet that she shares with her best friend on all the men they've met from OKCupid. It's got notes about the person like "Crazy republican", "nutjob", "creepy", "won't let me pay", etc., etc.

They tend to get messages from many of the same guys so they decided that, to avoid awkward situations, they should probably keep a record.

I have no idea how common this is though.
It seems pretty common. Not that I bothered by it, but is it that hard to keep that stuff in mind? I'm currently seeing three girls from dating sites but I remember which one likes horror movies, which one wants children badly and which one hates guys who can't pay for themselves. And yes, I don't need a list to make a comparison.
 
Hold the fuck on.
Women ... make and share lists about.. men... to choose from them?

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That's a level of creepy/disturbed I only would expect from men.
 
That's a level of creepy/disturbed I only would expect from men.

I know the guy, he is a bit on a paranoid side, so he actually set up a bug in his girlfriend's room and recorded that stuff. It was hilarious to listen how she discussed with her friend which guy to choose to settle down. The condition of teeth was discussed in all seriousness. But I thought that this thing might occur less in societies where women less dependent on men, that is why I asked here.
 
I know the guy, he is a bit on a paranoid side, so he actually set up a bug in his girlfriend's room and recorded that stuff. It was hilarious to listen how she discussed with her friend which guy to choose to settle down. The condition of teeth was discussed in all seriousness.
That's more than a bit paranoid. That's some serious issues there :/
 
I know the guy, he is a bit on a paranoid side, so he actually set up a bug in his girlfriend's room and recorded that stuff. It was hilarious to listen how she discussed with her friend which guy to choose to settle down. The condition of teeth was discussed in all seriousness. But I thought that this thing might occur less in societies where women less dependent on men, that is why I asked here.

Girls discuss things with their friends, news at 11.
 
must be a stupid question because I know the answer but anyway - has any woman present on this forum know some other woman who was choosing men by making lists? like there are 2 or 3 guys and she compares them by categories in excel? I know about at least 3 women who do this but I thought that it may be some local thing and women in civilized countries DON'T DO THIS.

That sounds horribly calculating. I've never done any such thing. I tend to just go with my gut, for better or worse. I wonder if a more prosaic approach yields a better success rate :/
 
Girls discuss things with their friends, news at 11.

Yeah, it's not like we never discuss women bodies, I agree.

Anyway I don't want to turn it into dating-age, I got the answer to the question I asked. Still don't know why bother with making lists though.
 
I know the guy, he is a bit on a paranoid side, so he actually set up a bug in his girlfriend's room and recorded that stuff. It was hilarious to listen how she discussed with her friend which guy to choose to settle down. The condition of teeth was discussed in all seriousness. But I thought that this thing might occur less in societies where women less dependent on men, that is why I asked here.

ahaha wow, he sounds like the whole other extreme.


Though I don't want to be a horsy for sale :(


I can understand using Excel though, just enter length and girth, calculate volume and sort cells by highest number, BAM!
j/k


In all seriousness, I guess it compares to the little black book some men have? With telephone numbers&notes for casual sex partners? not sure if equally creepy though.
 
ahaha wow, he sounds like the whole other extreme.


Though I don't want to be a horsy for sale :(


I can understand using Excel though, just enter length and girth, calculate volume and sort cells by highest number, BAM!
j/k

In all seriousness, I guess it compares to the little black book some men have? With telephone numbers&notes for casual sex partners? not sure if equally creepy though.

I highly doubt it's just some women doing the excel spreadsheet shit. I'd imagine anyone with enough choices and a penchant for treating people like buying the next latest electronic device, android or iPhone, has lists. They are the epitome of lonely despite being among company since people can be narrowed down into some categorical list in their mind.
 
So I met a girl this past friday in a club and got her number and facebook info. I haven't contacted her yet but I've been wanting to call her out and set up a date. Thing is I have a friend who is also talking to some other girl and he's wanting to get a time out with her as well. Would it be recommended to try and do a double first date? I have to note that my friend has been talking to his girl longer since they met at a language class while I met the the one who'd be with me at a club. He hasn't actually gone out with the girl but they have been talking. What do you guys/girls think? Should I try talking to her some before asking her out, should we save a double date scenario for later? Mentioning now that this is pretty much the first time I do this.
 
So I met a girl this past friday in a club and got her number and facebook info. I haven't contacted her yet but I've been wanting to call her out and set up a date. Thing is I have a friend who is also talking to some other girl and he's wanting to get a time out with her as well. Would it be recommended to try and do a double first date? I have to note that my friend has been talking to his girl longer since they met at a language class while I met the the one who'd be with me at a club. He hasn't actually gone out with the girl but they have been talking. What do you guys/girls think? Should I try talking to her some before asking her out, should we save a double date scenario for later? Mentioning now that this is pretty much the first time I do this.

I'm going to assume no, but did you get some talking time in/after the club? Usually if I meet a girl there or at a bar I don't know what she's saying at all. But I would avoid the double date if you didn't get to know her personally. You want to establish yourself first before branching out to meeting your friends and such. Take her out in a setting where you can actually talk, get to know each other (since it seems your friend seems to know his lady), then go on the double date after.
 
So I met a girl this past friday in a club and got her number and facebook info. I haven't contacted her yet but I've been wanting to call her out and set up a date. Thing is I have a friend who is also talking to some other girl and he's wanting to get a time out with her as well. Would it be recommended to try and do a double first date? I have to note that my friend has been talking to his girl longer since they met at a language class while I met the the one who'd be with me at a club. He hasn't actually gone out with the girl but they have been talking. What do you guys/girls think? Should I try talking to her some before asking her out, should we save a double date scenario for later? Mentioning now that this is pretty much the first time I do this.

No. That's just weird.
 
No. That's just weird.
I can see why it would be hahaha.

I'm going to assume no, but did you get some talking time in/after the club? Usually if I meet a girl there or at a bar I don't know what she's saying at all. But I would avoid the double date if you didn't get to know her personally. You want to establish yourself first before branching out to meeting your friends and such. Take her out in a setting where you can actually talk, get to know each other (since it seems your friend seems to know his lady), then go on the double date after.

I was able to chat with her some at the club, found out a bit about her music taste (we both said we would send some cool music to each other) and I also found out she's studying architecture which is convenient since I have friends also majoring in it. So I know a bit about her but not that much I guess. Where would you guys recommend for a first date? I know a place that has these things called pastel which is kind of a fried empanada. It's part of Brazilian culture and the place I go to is probably the best in the city and it's a good place for younger people (20 here, she's 18) it's kind of like fast food. That's not a weird place to go to eat after a date right?
 
oh ladygaf, I think I want a lady. As in, older than me. More mature. With their shit together.

I'm not ready for a relationship right now, but how do I prepare? Where do I meet women? I don't go to college currently, and my co-workers are not eligible. Not really sure where else I can go.

If girlgaf can't help you out, you should totally check out the dating-age thread.
 
LadyGAF thread, rise from your grave!

I posted this in the OKCupid thread here on GAF but I wanted to get the opinion of female GAFfers on my profile.

I've had limited success with my profile so far (I get about one face-to-face date every month and a half) and I'm curious to see what you guys think of it and what improvements you can suggest. I got crit from the people on the OKC subreddit but second opinions are always good.

Quote for profile as usual and I appreciate any help you can provide :)

 
I've had limited success with my profile so far (I get about one face-to-face date every month and a half) and I'm curious to see what you guys think of it and what improvements you can suggest. I got crit from the people on the OKC subreddit but second opinions are always good.

You know, for a guy with as much on his resume as you, you're sure as hell not bringing your A-game to your online profile. Snappy one-liners? Nowhere to be found. You're competing for attention in a haystack of ...hay. Be the needle! Shiny and sharp! Go! Go! Go!

More specific advice:

Put your summary in complete sentences. Save the point form for actual lists (e.g. "your favourites");

Lose the navel-gazing "is this enough of a summary?" after 75 characters. It's not enough of a summary, that much is obvious;

Don't immediately advertise that you're really good at sarcasm. It's hard to come across effectively as sarcastic without sounding a) condescending b) depressed or c) both, when the person you're trying to advertise to doesn't know you;

Cooking: you're "generally acknowledged"? What's your signature dish? Make a play with this: <people who don't have to like what you cook> have said that they <liked this dish that you made>, among others, and you would relish an opportunity to demonstrate just how good it is on a date;

Private things: If you want to save the reveal of private information for after you've come to know someone at least a little bit, say so. It's cool. It's a pretty stupid question to have on a dating profile site anyway;

Favourites: Simply executed. Again, could use more character in the expression but otherwise fairly tight and demonstrate a variety of interests; and,

SHOW YOUR FLAVOUR. You list off the things that are important to you and cool to you like they're some sort of checklist. Imagine you're at a coffee shop and someone three seats over is getting so animated and excited talking about something that they almost knock their coffee over. Those are the kinds of things you have to put on your profile. Not to the point of total geek-out - that's intimidating - but enough that a girl out there can read what you write and think, "hey, that guy really really LOVES x. And I love x. And, he seems sane. This is awesome!"

The combination of more flavour and colour to your profile will help you stand out. I think it's great that you're not too heavy on the innuendo and that you come across as a smart guy who's re-discovering what's important to him - but I might also suggest that you find a way to describe why you're on OKC. If you're interesting and charismatic and good with words, what in blazes are you doing single? Have you just not yet found someone equally awesome to share your life with? Hey, that's cool - work that in to your profile somewhere. Maybe at the you're "good at cooking" part.

That done, start messaging more girls. Remark on something you found interesting on their profile and an interest that you think you share - and, if she reaches the same conclusion, to fire a message back your way, and you can meet up for ...some innovative first-meeting thing.

In all - yours is an inoffensive, and decently foundational profile, but you're not standing out. Stand out! Because you can!
 
You know, for a guy with as much on his resume as you, you're sure as hell not bringing your A-game to your online profile. Snappy one-liners? Nowhere to be found. You're competing for attention in a haystack of ...hay. Be the needle! Shiny and sharp! Go! Go! Go!

More specific advice:

Put your summary in complete sentences. Save the point form for actual lists (e.g. "your favourites");

Lose the navel-gazing "is this enough of a summary?" after 75 characters. It's not enough of a summary, that much is obvious;

Don't immediately advertise that you're really good at sarcasm. It's hard to come across effectively as sarcastic without sounding a) condescending b) depressed or c) both, when the person you're trying to advertise to doesn't know you;

Cooking: you're "generally acknowledged"? What's your signature dish? Make a play with this: <people who don't have to like what you cook> have said that they <liked this dish that you made>, among others, and you would relish an opportunity to demonstrate just how good it is on a date;

Private things: If you want to save the reveal of private information for after you've come to know someone at least a little bit, say so. It's cool. It's a pretty stupid question to have on a dating profile site anyway;

Favourites: Simply executed. Again, could use more character in the expression but otherwise fairly tight and demonstrate a variety of interests; and,

SHOW YOUR FLAVOUR. You list off the things that are important to you and cool to you like they're some sort of checklist. Imagine you're at a coffee shop and someone three seats over is getting so animated and excited talking about something that they almost knock their coffee over. Those are the kinds of things you have to put on your profile. Not to the point of total geek-out - that's intimidating - but enough that a girl out there can read what you write and think, "hey, that guy really really LOVES x. And I love x. And, he seems sane. This is awesome!"

The combination of more flavour and colour to your profile will help you stand out. I think it's great that you're not too heavy on the innuendo and that you come across as a smart guy who's re-discovering what's important to him - but I might also suggest that you find a way to describe why you're on OKC. If you're interesting and charismatic and good with words, what in blazes are you doing single? Have you just not yet found someone equally awesome to share your life with? Hey, that's cool - work that in to your profile somewhere. Maybe at the you're "good at cooking" part.

That done, start messaging more girls. Remark on something you found interesting on their profile and an interest that you think you share - and, if she reaches the same conclusion, to fire a message back your way, and you can meet up for ...some innovative first-meeting thing.

In all - yours is an inoffensive, and decently foundational profile, but you're not standing out. Stand out! Because you can!

Damn blade, I've said similar things in the okc thread <3.
 
LadyGAF thread, rise from your grave!

I posted this in the OKCupid thread here on GAF but I wanted to get the opinion of female GAFfers on my profile.

I've had limited success with my profile so far (I get about one face-to-face date every month and a half) and I'm curious to see what you guys think of it and what improvements you can suggest. I got crit from the people on the OKC subreddit but second opinions are always good.

Quote for profile as usual and I appreciate any help you can provide :)

How come you don't have "hosted a SC2 tournament" as an accomplishment?

Oh wait.
 
Awesome advice
Thanks Blade, this is the sort of stuff I was looking for!

I was dating a woman that I met on OKC up until a couple of days ago and I've not really touched the profile for a few months. What you said will really help me change things up.

Honestly, thanks a lot!
Damn blade, I've said similar things in the okc thread <3.
You didn't say it when I asked for advice. What a jerk!
How come you don't have "hosted a SC2 tournament" as an accomplishment?

Oh wait.
I want some success.
 
Thanks Blade, this is the sort of stuff I was looking for!

I was dating a woman that I met on OKC up until a couple of days ago and I've not really touched the profile for a few months. What you said will really help me change things up.

Honestly, thanks a lot!

You didn't say it when I asked for advice. What a jerk!

I want some success.

Oh oops my bad >_>.
 
Thanks Blade, this is the sort of stuff I was looking for!

I was dating a woman that I met on OKC up until a couple of days ago and I've not really touched the profile for a few months. What you said will really help me change things up.

Honestly, thanks a lot!

You didn't say it when I asked for advice. What a jerk!

I want some success.

Good luck!
 
That was a thread that failed miserably.

edit: Venus was a bit too hot for my taste. My pale skin couldn't take it.
 
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