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Larry Wachowski publicly debuts as... Lana Wachowski
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There are biological women who cannot reproduce nor menstruate due to ovarian issues. Not to mention intersexed individuals who get made into women as babies or have internal testes. You might want to do some reading about just how many people at birth are a bit intersexed and have been modified to fit the gender binary society has set up.
I do not particularly care for such narrow definitions of womanhood even as a cis woman. Being a woman is not about periods and child rearing.
Bigoted against bigots? Again? And so what if it is their religion? They are still bigots. If someone has a religion that thinks human sacrifice is needed are they not still murderers if they do it? If a religion had a tenet that said Jewish people were less than human, would they not still be racists? Requiring the religious person to adopt the belief of the other would be pretty shabby, but convincing the religious person and showing them how they are wrong is not requiring anything. If someones belief is held AND it impacts others happiness negatively, it does not get to be protected. If it does not impact anyone, they can believe whatever they want.
Wiktor
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Chuck Norris
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Did she choose the name Lana just because it's close to Larry? If you're going to change your name why not go with something awesome?
This from the guy who chose Chuck Norris?
"God's Beard!"
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...attempt to what?
CHEEZMO
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To stir shit.
FanTomasas
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Dreadful!
Calling out a girl on something her guy said 5 years ago, when they probably weren't even together, sounds fair to you?
LegendofJoe
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I feel fortunate that I never had to struggle with gender identity. I can't imagine anything that would be more difficult and trying to experience. So when people like Lana are able to overcome and become the person they truly are I can't help but feel an immense amount of pride for them. Lana and other people like her are true symbols of both the human spirit and our ability to persevere.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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I've always thought it was because of her love for Superman.
BuggyDClown
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Not off topic but a side note to this.
I don't know the truth behind this or not, maybe someone can verify? Rooster teeth brought this up recently on a podcast, and there was in interesting fact concerning the matrix era for the wachowskis.
Apparently the character switch was intended to only be female in the matrix and then male in the real world. Though after casting the actress to play switch they liked her performance they altered the script to make her a all female character. Just thought it was interesting.
Back on topic, this is great. Especially combined with the recent news of being a transgenderd man or woman (correct inoffensive term?) is no longer a mental illness. Hopefully our world will continue to let people be whom they are and express themselves as such.
I do have to agree, I don't think she made the greatest transition although I think it's just the hair mainly. The other picture of her looks like any (not attractive sorry) 40 something soccer mom, but It's still fairly obvious.
Although after moving to Los Angeles I have met many transgenderd people and some I had no idea until either they or someone else had told me. It's amazing for these people that we have the ability to truly help them make such great transformations into their true physical identities.
I don't know the truth behind this or not, maybe someone can verify? Rooster teeth brought this up recently on a podcast, and there was in interesting fact concerning the matrix era for the wachowskis.
Apparently the character switch was intended to only be female in the matrix and then male in the real world. Though after casting the actress to play switch they liked her performance they altered the script to make her a all female character. Just thought it was interesting.
Back on topic, this is great. Especially combined with the recent news of being a transgenderd man or woman (correct inoffensive term?) is no longer a mental illness. Hopefully our world will continue to let people be whom they are and express themselves as such.
I do have to agree, I don't think she made the greatest transition although I think it's just the hair mainly. The other picture of her looks like any (not attractive sorry) 40 something soccer mom, but It's still fairly obvious.
Although after moving to Los Angeles I have met many transgenderd people and some I had no idea until either they or someone else had told me. It's amazing for these people that we have the ability to truly help them make such great transformations into their true physical identities.
Yep, it's true. There's a video earlier in this thread in which Switch's actress confirmed it.
BuggyDClown
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Ah awesome. Thought that was a cool film fun fact. I am currently on a plane, so the wifi is too slow to stream anything.
After reading this whole thread, I can't help to facepalm at how most "normal" (lol) people, when confronted with any kind of gender issue, always focus the whole discussion on SEX itself ("hurr durr penis goes in vagina") instead of taking 2 minutes to look at the whole picture (affective relationship, mental well-being or self-image to name a few). We're almost on the verge of overcoming it on homosexuality especially through the normalization of marriage equality, but there's still a lot of education to be done in the other 3 scales of that gingerbread man.
Fenderputty
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Right ...
This reminds me of that poor athlete runner who lost all her awards because they found she had testis which increased her testosterone. She was born with her female genitalia and lived her whole life as a female and lost everything due to our societies rigid gender definitions.
Vermillion
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Me neither.
Oh, look, this thread is filled with heated argument. What else is new.
This thread...
Anyways good for her. Here is a couple of pics that haven't been posted.
I'd hit it!
She's looking cute!
And yeah.. this thread...
BuggyDClown
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Looks much better in those photos. Great for her.
Finaika
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Oh my...
This is basicaly the biggest probelm of lack of understanding in the world regarding trans people
What chooses who we are (or the closest we have for a soul, scientificaly speaking) is our brain. Our brain tell us what we are.
So our body is seen and understood by our brains and for other people's brain.
So if someone brain's is male, than the person is male and vice versa.
So nobody is changing anything to look like something they are not.
Besides all the "I have an uncle who can't have kids and the president of my country is old enoght so she don't menstruate .. this means that they are males ? =O" that already been said, every advance towards gender diferentiation in neuroscience proves that :
Women (cis and trans, post or pre anything) have the same basic brain.
Males (including males taking drugs to lower the testosterone to treat prostate cancer) and Transmales (as in female to male) have the same basic brain.
There is a very interesting and educational video about a neuroscientist telling this, but my google fu (would that be youtube fu ? =P) fails me now ...
Actualy the human body tends to androginy in 2 poins of it's life : before puberty and after menopause/andropause.
So a considerably old person has the same chances as a considerably young person.
That said, there is an old lady that lives in my grandma's street that looks EXACTLY like her
But the results are more dependant to genetics than anything else
Pics?
Asking for pre pics is one of the most non polite things a person can do to a trans person. Same with asking "your real name" .... would be like asking for the boy who had a gun destroy his genital "so ... you have your penis destroyed .. can I see pics of what is left ?" ...
Just bumping for this, it's great. Especially the brain / phantom limb stuff.
Vermillion
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Ah, did you get that other link?
Back off man, that post was fucking art.
I am trans, yes, MtF.
My avatar is not me, no
The person in your avatar looks like Ricky Ortiz with a little makeup.
Finaika
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I lol'ed.
When watching the Matrix films (which I do quite often) I always wonder how people born inside the system knew what they were supposed to look like - their residual self image. I guess your brain knows on some level whether or not you're male or female and where all your body parts are supposed to be, but to have their physical bodies match their virtual ones so closely was something I always thought was odd. For a while I thought maybe it happened that way through an assist by the system for the sake of maintaining order.
Looking at it through the lens of this conversation, I suppose it's the same way some of us know we're supposed to be boys or girls even though we're not always born with the "appropriate" parts. The brain just knows somehow.
Looking at it through the lens of this conversation, I suppose it's the same way some of us know we're supposed to be boys or girls even though we're not always born with the "appropriate" parts. The brain just knows somehow.
boutrosinit
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Looks a lot happier. Good for her!
It was a compliment, I'm comfortable saying Ricky is a very pretty man.
Beerman462
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She looks a bit better here and in the other shot as a blonde. In the op pic/video though she looks horrible. Really poor complexion/teeth.This thread...
Anyways good for her. Here is a couple of pics that haven't been posted.
I'd hit it!
bengraven
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http://blog.sfgate.com/dailydish/2012/09/05/lana-wachowski-opens-up-about-sex-change/
More info about her change. Found myself actually emotional about it. The weird "best marriage" line is kind of creepy, but actually also kind of cute in a way due to the fact that they're finding they work better now that Lana isn't "projecting her issues" onto him. Better films? Maybe.
She opens up quite a bit.
Except about her junk:
Word, girl. Some things are better kept in the bedroom.
Edit: removed the Daily Male link since the rag is banned. Put up the San Fran Chrono story instead, but that's missing a lot of her and her family's quotes. I don't want to post the entire story since the site is banned, despite it being an interview given in front of a group of journalists and verified - don't want to violate any TOS.
Original full story at this link if you just put in the right words: http://www.*****************/tvshow...case-family-reject-her.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
More info about her change. Found myself actually emotional about it. The weird "best marriage" line is kind of creepy, but actually also kind of cute in a way due to the fact that they're finding they work better now that Lana isn't "projecting her issues" onto him. Better films? Maybe.
She opens up quite a bit.
Except about her junk:
Word, girl. Some things are better kept in the bedroom.
Edit: removed the Daily Male link since the rag is banned. Put up the San Fran Chrono story instead, but that's missing a lot of her and her family's quotes. I don't want to post the entire story since the site is banned, despite it being an interview given in front of a group of journalists and verified - don't want to violate any TOS.
Original full story at this link if you just put in the right words: http://www.*****************/tvshow...case-family-reject-her.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
bengraven
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They were notoriously private about it and she didn't speak on it until just recently, after her public revealing in the Cloud Atlas video. This is the first interview given as Lana about her gender identity issues.
Gender identity.
bengraven
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Yeah, sorry, I meant to put "sexual gender" but realized that was redundant and excised the wrong word. It was a pretty crappy morning for me.
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