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League of Legends |OT13| Diamond is Unreachable
- Thread starter Dobkeratops
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You need to learn how to minimise ADC stupid decisions. Maybe play a sustain champ or a heavy peel champ such as Braum who have to baby sit ADC.
Hydrophobic
Member
oh wait, i forgot this was silver
ADC in silver in 2017.
That's like almost their entire job in teamfights though.
I don't think assassins/tanks/divers have it too hard right now, lots of meta picks and bans belong to those classes.
lmao
let's go
funny enough you had strong picks in every position
get qss against malz ult/exhaust
counterplay is you finding the right moment to pounce
don't run in head first and expect great results if u have a defensive support with full summoners next to the carries
There are champions you never engage head on.
Mal and Zyra are two of them. Janna and Braum are other..... In fact, you never just start engage against most supp champions because that is their job, to peel their adc and give them advantage to nuke you down.
killatopak
Member
Yeah rylais/roa too for hp. And abyss for mr.
They have ways to reduce burst while adcs have none. Except maybe for those that use bc/mercurial.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Adcs already have a whole player dedicated to protecting them
What more do you want lol
I want them to keep lethality as it is, or if they nerf lethality give ADCs their own item to compensate.
I just lost a game against some bronzes because my jungler who has a great win rate on jungle Kha and Noct decided "you know what how about I play graves for the first time in ranked"
why do these people dictate my games.
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=tburgs
why do these people dictate my games.
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=tburgs
Naota is gonna beat us both to gold
Naota is gonna beat us both to gold
I swear mane. I may have to find a good adc and start duoing. which I hate.
From the one game I duoed with you on my smurf, here`s some things you can improve on 7flow.
1. Play more aggressive. Especially on champions like Nami, you can get really big leads in botlane during the early game. This means running up and using W whenever it`s off cooldown, constantly harassing with autos and procing your spellthief.
2. Learn to push and maintain your leads. If you have a decent lead in botlane, constantly try to extend this lead. That means force 2v2 fights, set up pink wards for ganks, setup tower dives with your jungler. If you`re ahead and your mid is behind, it`s sometimes I bad idea to group with your team.
3. Don`t do dumb roams. This isn't LCS where you're two levels behind the ADC. Everytime you roam, you're essentially losing XP and gold. Try not to roam unless the minions are pushed up to their tower, or you're guaranteed to get kills or assists. Remember that everytime you roam, that means your ADC is either going to get zoned or all-inned if they try to farm. By roaming you're slowly killing the lead in your botlane, or putting you guys further behind.
4. ESTABLISHMENT. I put this in caps because this is something I see supports esp in gold and silver constantly mess up. When you both back and you're returning to lane, don't go into the river or their jungle to ward. If you do this, the enemy botlane will push into tower and you will lose total control over your lane. Remember that a pushed lane is good for you because that means that you have control over the the enemy botlane and you're drawing jungle pressure (if you're setup to handle jungle pressure). Come straight to lane, ward the bushes near lane, and when you're well established in the lane is when you can leave to ward.
5. SYNCHRONIZED BACK. Another thing I constantly see supports mess up on. If you can, you want to always back at the same time. Now there's lots of exceptions to this rule, but usually it's most efficient for you to back and return to lane at the same time. If you desync your backs, you risk one of you dying or taking a whole bunch of harass, and losing lane control. Botlane is all about controlling the lane with minion management and ward placement, remember that.
6. POTIONS. Don't come to lane with no potions.
Look at Ghost's stats from last season, even on champs he loses on, he has fairly high KDAs.
1. Play more aggressive. Especially on champions like Nami, you can get really big leads in botlane during the early game. This means running up and using W whenever it`s off cooldown, constantly harassing with autos and procing your spellthief.
2. Learn to push and maintain your leads. If you have a decent lead in botlane, constantly try to extend this lead. That means force 2v2 fights, set up pink wards for ganks, setup tower dives with your jungler. If you`re ahead and your mid is behind, it`s sometimes I bad idea to group with your team.
3. Don`t do dumb roams. This isn't LCS where you're two levels behind the ADC. Everytime you roam, you're essentially losing XP and gold. Try not to roam unless the minions are pushed up to their tower, or you're guaranteed to get kills or assists. Remember that everytime you roam, that means your ADC is either going to get zoned or all-inned if they try to farm. By roaming you're slowly killing the lead in your botlane, or putting you guys further behind.
4. ESTABLISHMENT. I put this in caps because this is something I see supports esp in gold and silver constantly mess up. When you both back and you're returning to lane, don't go into the river or their jungle to ward. If you do this, the enemy botlane will push into tower and you will lose total control over your lane. Remember that a pushed lane is good for you because that means that you have control over the the enemy botlane and you're drawing jungle pressure (if you're setup to handle jungle pressure). Come straight to lane, ward the bushes near lane, and when you're well established in the lane is when you can leave to ward.
5. SYNCHRONIZED BACK. Another thing I constantly see supports mess up on. If you can, you want to always back at the same time. Now there's lots of exceptions to this rule, but usually it's most efficient for you to back and return to lane at the same time. If you desync your backs, you risk one of you dying or taking a whole bunch of harass, and losing lane control. Botlane is all about controlling the lane with minion management and ward placement, remember that.
6. POTIONS. Don't come to lane with no potions.
Also, 12 deaths is way too much, you should have the least deaths on your team as support.
Look at Ghost's stats from last season, even on champs he loses on, he has fairly high KDAs.
Naota doesn't have the best mechanics, but he doesn't play like an Ape. I know this one Lee OTP who has great mechanics, but just plays like a Bonobo :^).Naota is gonna beat us both to gold
Then get your champ banned in inhouses :^).
Hydrophobic
Member
Newt, I meant to ask back on Friday but did you have any tips for me in the Jhin Lulu lane? Ignoring the fact that Ghost was being Chauster to Naota's doublelift.
I had a bad game because I kept getting sniped by lux. That was easily my worst game of the season.
my nami is good but I can't dictate my team screwing me over every game. decided to stop playing support.
Out of 69 games with nami
3.45:1 KDA
1.3 / 5.6 / 18.1
57%
69 Played
I can't dictate my teammates diving into 1vs3 situations everytime. nor can I teach an adc to auto in teamfights instead of relying on spells.
I have played against gold players last season when I duoed with Fuzzery and we went undefeated over 6-7 games.
hell some of the loses I had with nami over the day or so I was the only one to get an s rank.
my nami is good but I can't dictate my team screwing me over every game. decided to stop playing support.
Out of 69 games with nami
3.45:1 KDA
1.3 / 5.6 / 18.1
57%
69 Played
I can't dictate my teammates diving into 1vs3 situations everytime. nor can I teach an adc to auto in teamfights instead of relying on spells.
I have played against gold players last season when I duoed with Fuzzery and we went undefeated over 6-7 games.
hell some of the loses I had with nami over the day or so I was the only one to get an s rank.
Trust me, the role you're playing isn't the problem.
Those points I listed in my last post aren't just general stuff, it's stuff I've noticed you doing.
Those points I listed in my last post aren't just general stuff, it's stuff I've noticed you doing.
Haha, I remember that game being rough, but I don't really remember the details.
true. teammates is my problem right now.
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Peanut Butter
Member
I think one of the biggest things is playing around your team. In my experience, you have to be flexible if you want to do well. Sometimes you sync with a lane partner and/or the rest of our team, but other times they're just going to do what they want because that's how they see the easiest way to win. Just go with the flow of the game and your teammates.
Will do
Terbinator
Member
Lol. I have 22ms here, did have 12ms when I lived at my Mums.
Shmuppers
Member
Prioritize Hec though. Kha is strong but he's more risk/reward
Hec has a little more utility and people will focus you in low elo b/c xd
Shmuppers
Member
Damn khan is ridiculous right now
Hydrophobic
Member
I might do that then. Is Kha playable in that mode?
Yes he is. And blood moon isn't that bad. There's like almost no strategy to it, but whatever.
Peanut Butter
Member
If Rengar somehow slips past pick/ban, I'd suggest taking him over Kha'Zix and Hecarim.
Stone Ocean
Member
Your teammates are completely out of your control. Enemy teams get the same roll of dice off the bag of morons as you do so the faster you accept that and only worry about your own play the faster you get better and actually climb.
Peanut Butter
Member
*Teammate hovers Yasuo*
"No cure for fools..."
WTF WHY U BAN MY YASUO AFK GG ENJOY LOSS KYS NOOB FK YOU DIE STUPID BRONZIE
"No cure for fools..."
WTF WHY U BAN MY YASUO AFK GG ENJOY LOSS KYS NOOB FK YOU DIE STUPID BRONZIE
57% winrate with 69 games is great, just stick with that and you will climb in a decent pace.
climbing just takes time
if you're consistent and win more than you lose you'll eventually get there
even if ur placements go really wrong or you lose ten games in a row, eventually statistics take over and that 51% winrate takes u to where u belong
and in the long run it's never ur team mates cos you're the only common factor among all those hundreds of games. be more aggressive, more consistent, less dumb, get rid of bad habits, have good map awareness, don't flame, don't play yasuo
if you're consistent and win more than you lose you'll eventually get there
even if ur placements go really wrong or you lose ten games in a row, eventually statistics take over and that 51% winrate takes u to where u belong
and in the long run it's never ur team mates cos you're the only common factor among all those hundreds of games. be more aggressive, more consistent, less dumb, get rid of bad habits, have good map awareness, don't flame, don't play yasuo
Kiss yourself. But seriously can someone tell me how I can instalock Enve on Lee every game.
And how do I improve mechanix noot
Actually how do I play this game in general,my abilities don't work. seriously though give me advice
gg
Lucker. I usually sit around high 50s.
Going from 37 (uni) to 59 (home), I could feel the difference.
Orochinagis
Member
Because they know only one lane and one champ
I legit can't jungle. Tried learning it at the start of the season and have like a 30% win rate with it.
Ivern invaded my blue level 1 so I went to take his and I got 4 man gang banged level 2. FeelsGoodMan.