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The roster spot isn't filled so the team can avoid paying an even higher luxury tax.
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Lebron James Ethers Charles Barkley
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The roster spot isn't filled so the team can avoid paying an even higher luxury tax.
Lebron and Charles are both right. Stars back in the day were friends to a certain extent but it's not like today where everybody wants to play with each other. There's always exceptions but it's been out of control for awhile now.
One example, I remember Reggie Miller was a free agent and the Lakers offered him a deal to play with kobe and Shaq and he declined
One example, I remember Reggie Miller was a free agent and the Lakers offered him a deal to play with kobe and Shaq and he declined
sixteen-bit
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Great takedown
CountBlack
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Dark Lebron Rises??
Lebron is a sensitive dude.
Nothing good can come from him taking on someone in the media. Its sports 101.
I am surprised that he is cracking under the pressure in January. They were never getting the one seed and all they need to get out of the East is to be healthy. Not sure why he is freaking out.
Nothing good can come from him taking on someone in the media. Its sports 101.
I am surprised that he is cracking under the pressure in January. They were never getting the one seed and all they need to get out of the East is to be healthy. Not sure why he is freaking out.
He's taken a lot of criticism in his career and kept his mouth shut. Even in the very article, it says that LeBron usually doesn't respond to these hot takes. Some of the early comments in this thread was about old man lebron finally talking back and securing his legacy. No idea where you're getting thag Lebon has a thin skin and like to dish it out. And likening him to Trump is inflammatory nonsense and reveals your troll bias
maybe you should listen to Lebron and you'd hear wha he's complaining about
So in other words, you agree that he did not complain when he was at Miami, got it
cubicle47b
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He sees what Golden State is doing and the Cavs are worse than last year.
DasPenguin
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Yes, because Riley is too respected around the league to do so. After he skipped town, he starts complaining how the Heat are disrespecting Wade. Even though the Heat paid him less so they could bring James and Bosh into the mix. Their offer to Wade was fair and they made the right choice, which is easy to see now.
When you start coming after an analysts finances, you have a thin skin. And it makes him look incredibly petty. And especially when your huge salary is based on the work by said analyst and his peers.
Last I checked, Charles didn't critique what an unbelievable player LeBron is. But all these "I have no time to waste" comments are nothing but trolling at this point.
The argument Chuck made was valid but probably not very popular. And it's his job to do so. A guy jumps from team to team every time they start to age or go over the cap, and then lashes out to the press about the state of the roster and how he's getting older. Which is basically like saying "get me this and that or I'm leaving again". If Barkley doesn't comment on that he's not doing his job very well.
Sho_Nuff82
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They have nothing to offer other teams in trades, except the bloated contracts of players that are already overpaid on their roster, or draft picks a decade in the future.
And honestly? What team in their conference (or the league) wants to help the Cavs or Warriors get better right now?
You can make a lateral move like trading Jefferson and Shump for Jamaal Crawford, but they give up a ton of D for a "playmaker" and pick up a terrible salary. No is touching that JR contract.
Cavs are playing worse with a better roster. They dodged a bullet with Mozgov, who is worse this season despite an expanded role.
Hyperactivity
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His team is playing like shit and he's trying to wake them up, yeah.
But "that tightening window scares the living shit out of him"? "The idea that he may not win this year or that his team may not be good enough k. The future is a disaster to him"?
Honestly, hottest takes I've seen, you should work for ESPN. If you're a contending team, than your goal should be to win the ring at the end of the season. Plenty of talented championship teams in the past stumbled because they become complacent about their status, and about how they have a target on their back. If you want to avoid that, than you have to focus on nothing but getting the ring, and getting the best possible shot at it.
Lebron's legacy will be fine, and he's not leaving Cleveland
Byakuya769
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Damn. Barkley, eat a turkey leg if you're okay.
the_batman
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goddamn, seems like he had something to get off his chest.
cubicle47b
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I'm talking about losing Delly. They are just straight-up playing much worse than they should be, though.
Soapbox Killer
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Heard this in the car this morning, HEEL TURN?
CanUKlehead
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Chuck is a hater, since even LBJ's Heat days.
He's also not wrong.
He's also not wrong.
Hyperactivity
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Wade called himself and Butler, as if they were in the same league, the leaders of the team. He specifically said that the younger players weren't putting on effort.
Lebron has said that they are a top heavy team, during a period where his team has had to deal with numerous injuries, and pointed out the specific hole they had for a bench playmaker. Yeah, too an extent it's insulting, but it's much more comparable to IT saying "We kind of suck right now" about the Celtics back in November/December
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxs...rade-010617?amp=true?client=ms-android-google
People forget about this but Lebron was bringing up that hole in the cavs before this losing streak had ever started. Of course, it didn't make for as juicy conversation beforehand
This is what he wants IMO. He's averaging the most minutes per game right now iirc, and of not, he's still averaging a stupid number of minutes. He's asking for a secondary playmaker because even if someone like Delly didn't do as much for the cavs in the playoffs, he averaged 24 minutes a game last year being the backup and helping the rest of the cavs get their rest time. I don't think the cavs need a playmaker for the playoffs, but Lebron wants to reduce the wear and tear of the season on him and Kyrie's bodies, especially when the team's injuries are currently proving his point
Ninja Scooter
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He's right and I'm shocked more players don't come out against Chuck in the same way. The NBA on TNT is entertaining but he's a clown on the level of Skip Bayless. He just says things to say things, with no real insight behind them. The next time Chuck says something insightful about basketball will be the first. This is the same guy who said the Warriors play "girly ball" and claimed that no 3 point shooting team would ever win a title, despite "three point shooting teams" having won the last two. He and Shaq only exist on TNT to be clowns and buffoons, not for their analysis. These old heads like Chuck just come across as bitter with the way they go after the younger generations for every little thing. If MJ had come out and ripped his team the way LeBron did, the same people would be talking about how great of a leader he was.
also let's not forget about JaVale McGee ethering Shaq on his own show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q69O7CiwL8
also let's not forget about JaVale McGee ethering Shaq on his own show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q69O7CiwL8
Yep. Their main issue right now is that ever since JR went down they have been worse on both ends, but mostly on defense.
thank you. I love when players speak up. people throw around the word "whiny" way too much.
It's refreshing to hear a player say something other than "We just stay aggressive, you know. Stay after loose balls. I don't worry about that man I just worry about winning ball games."
the_batman
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Barkley may not be very eloquent, but he knows basketball. and his chemistry with the TNT crew is funny as hell.
Right I get that, I'm just saying if it was filled with "a playmaker" it would be better Game-wise than keeping it unfilled.
How is he right when he doesn't even answer the original criticism? Barkley didn't say anything to attack Lebron personally.
Lebron whole argument is an ad hominem. Barkley was mentioning that Lebron complaining about the owner not spending money doesn't make sense when the Cavs payroll is the highest in the league. He said that Lebron was being "whiny" in that sense.
Lebron responds by attacking Barkley character which Charles has been very open about and knows he is a screw up.
Lebron still has yet to address the original criticism of why is he complaining about the team not spending money to get a playmaker when they are already spending more than anyone else in the league.
Skellig Gra
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Chuck is dead.
BadAss2961
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Haha, LeBron unhinged.
He won't win a war of words against Chuck.
He won't win a war of words against Chuck.
True Savior
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Bron was so nice he didnt even mentioned the hooker blowjob dui.
Sorry but everyone recognizes Jordan was a prick.
Sorry but everyone recognizes Jordan was a prick.
Which is odd considering he had players like Kevin Johnson and Majerle. I think there lack of a true 4/5 is what killed them. Barkley was playing the 3 on the Suns at times...
Gotdatmoney
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Charles Barkley is such a motherfucking idiot. He and the TNT crew are funny but they dont know shit about ball and I absolutely despise hearing any of them speak on social issues. Motherfucking clowns.
That said Charles was right. Lebron needs to stfu. You cant endlessly throw money at the situation. Most of the Cavs cap is tied up because Lebron held the team.for ransom signing shit like Tristem Thompson JR Smith Shumpert and even Love to an extext
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That said Charles was right. Lebron needs to stfu. You cant endlessly throw money at the situation. Most of the Cavs cap is tied up because Lebron held the team.for ransom signing shit like Tristem Thompson JR Smith Shumpert and even Love to an extext
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Hypemaster
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As a Wizards fan, I don't want to hear this crap. It's bad enough the Warriors and Cavaliers suck away talent from teams attempting to compete all for naught when these demands just increase the disparity in the league. Chuck is a bonehead, can't disagree on that though.
crimzonflame
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There's a new sheriff in town and it aint Reggie Hammond!
Lol they'll both be friends by next weekend.
Lol they'll both be friends by next weekend.
what world do you live in?
Jordan is the ultimate sports idol, period. what you call being a prick, 99% of people see him as a strong leader, doing anything to get his teammates going in order to win ball games, and the GOAT because of it.
Current players, Lebron especially, get slapped with the "whiner" label for doing the same shit.
shaq was a bitch for that. whenever dude is losing an argument he always brings up rings. you telling me adam morrison has more say than Chuck because he has a ring? foh
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captmcblack
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The only thing that would've made this better, is if I was able to see this happen live.
Somebody needed to shut Barkley up - I'm glad LBJ stepped up and smacked the shit out of him.
Somebody needed to shut Barkley up - I'm glad LBJ stepped up and smacked the shit out of him.
Byakuya769
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Yeah. That was wack. But Shaq was right otherwise.
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