mckmas8808
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They were terrible. That's when they fired Coach Blatt.
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They were terrible. That's when they fired Coach Blatt.
Mix Master
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Thats what it was. They fired blatt, completely forgot about that.
But chuck is right though. Why moan to the media?? Go talk to griffin and Gilbert in private and stop trying to be a victim, come june KD and steph comin for that ass.
Lebron only has 2 years left before he starts lookin like Grandpa kobe. He has to win NOW, not in the future or whatever, NOW.
mckmas8808
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Yeah, that's a little too easy to be labeled a coon. Someone has to do more than that, I mean come on!
Do people even realize how much money Barkley has given to HBCUs?
This is something about the human psyche that I was never understand. Why is it when someone is talking about their own situation and how they want it to be better, that same person has to be acting like a "victim"? We all know Lebron is right in that they need a good backup point guard at the minimum.
Dan I wrote a public slave master letter and acted like LeBron was my property Gilbert. Yeah that's the guy that knows how to keep shit in house
Lmfao! Seriously. Fuck Gilbert.
Diprosalic
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30-11 on a 4 game win streak is not exactly terrible.
Kyrie missed 24 games in that period.
Xisiqomelir
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Barkley pretending that players can't be friends across teams was some real dumb shit.
Professional basketball player with a lot of success talks about his legacay - after working his ass off or over 10 years.... I don't see the problem here. This has nothing to do with an inflated ego.
shanafan
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If you listen to his press conferences, he says "I" and "my team" statements quite a bit. Sure he is the best player on the team, but say terms like "we" instead since it is a team you are on.
SlackAdjuster
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My Cavs play on TNT twice in the next week and a half.
Mon, Feb 6 Cleveland @ Washington
Thu, Feb 9 Cleveland @ Oklahoma City
Aww yiss. Should be entertaining.
Mon, Feb 6 Cleveland @ Washington
Thu, Feb 9 Cleveland @ Oklahoma City
Aww yiss. Should be entertaining.
He has been talking shit for the past 2 weeks.
It is going to come back on him if he doesn't win in June. Thats how sports media hacks operate.
So barkley gave an interview today about Lebron comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWwa2y6baBQ
He basically said,
"Im not upset, what he said about me is correct but it doesnt make my statement incorrect. He didnt like the message so he attacked the messenger personally. I stand by what I said. "
Then he reiterated his point and said he wont retort with personal insults. He also said a lot of young players now take the criticisms personally and label you a hater without ever seeing if the point is actually valid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWwa2y6baBQ
He basically said,
"Im not upset, what he said about me is correct but it doesnt make my statement incorrect. He didnt like the message so he attacked the messenger personally. I stand by what I said. "
Then he reiterated his point and said he wont retort with personal insults. He also said a lot of young players now take the criticisms personally and label you a hater without ever seeing if the point is actually valid.
They were good, but Blatt wasn't the guy Lebron and possibly the other players wanted.
The Cavs rotation is far from Dleague tier and they even just got Korver on the cheap.
I don't like Lebron but he should be proud of his legacy. He has been the face of the NBA since he was 18 and his biggest controversy is holding a television event to announce a free agency decision that benefited Boys and Girls Club.
The day this dude is off TV will be a great day for basketball.
They've been missing guards the whole year.
Felder, Liggins and Mcrae are all bottom of the barrel guards. Not sure if thats even arguable.
entremet
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Nah. Barkley is the most entertaining commenter in sports. Forget NBA and Basketball. I would say pro sports overall.
Nope, he's terrible. Or turrible.
Granted TV analysis in general is shit, but Chuck is among the shittiest.
bigboss370
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well Barkley definitely looks like the bigger person in this situation now
Scully Scully Scoo
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lebron made cleveland relevant again, he can say whatever the fuck he wants
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
Lebrun James is the best man.
Barkley jealous and bitter as hell
Barkley jealous and bitter as hell
You can't have everything.
On paper they are AT LEAST the second best team in the league. A superstar can't really complain about that. It's not like he is passing to Smush Parker.
Nydius
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Why? Once again, Barkley is right. Nothing LeBron said in his rant disputed anything Barkley said. Barkley made a professional, albeit meandering, analysis that LeBron is asking Dan Gilbert to go even further above and beyond and making it a public spectacle instead of handling it behind closed doors. Kenny Smith agreed.
LeBron's reaction was to wait a week and come back with personal attacks.
Gilbert can only splash around so much cash, the Cavs are already the highest payroll and highest luxury tax team in the league. Likewise, there's only so much talent to go around in the league. Instead of bitching in public with passive-aggressive comments about the team and front office, maybe LeBron should pull a Tim Duncan and take less money to free up space to bring someone in. You know, the same thing LeBron himself did in Miami. And if LeBron's the leader on the team, he needs to convince Kevin Love and Kyrie to do the same thing. LeBron complains that teams are top heavy? Well no shit, Bron. Guess who's responsible for the free agent, player driven superstar stacking that causes teams to be top heavy?
LeBron wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to make as close to max contract cash AND have a team that continually wins championships. Something has to give, no amount of personal attacks on Barkley for pointing that out will change this fact.
The Salt Life
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Doesn't sound like someone that got tethered to me.
There is always going to be people that defend LeBron because he's good, but point still remains, dude whines alot. LeBron should act like he wants to be treated.
They are going to be paying his ass 33.2mil next year and 35.6mil the following. Next year, they are still stuck with all the overpriced talent at 125mil... with dropping some 5 or 6 of the lower end players. Cavs are stuck with a sinker and the only godsend is them being in the East.
Eh.
Charles is a public figure and opens himself up to criticism. Same is true of LeBron.
LeBron probably went too personal but he is allowed to complain about the talent on his team (whether that is wise is another question), that is definitely fair game for Chuck to criticize and Bron is allowed to respond to said criticism.
I disagree with almost all of that, but that's irrelevant. Chuck vs. Bron is a small spat in the grand scheme of things that I frankly don't care much about. What matters is that he's a worthless analyst who is completely out of touch with the modern game. And that's just the basketball side of things. When TNT tries to touch on political or social issues it's even more of a disaster. He's the worst in just about every way.
I know people who tune in just to laugh at him and some of the antics on TNT, knowing that most of what's said on Inside the NBA makes little sense. That I sort of get. But the thought of casual fans tuning into TNT looking for actual basketball insight is frightening.
This is a little off-topic admittedly so I'll leave it at this, but I never like to squander an opportunity to trash Barkeley.
this lebron hate is absurd, specially because y'all attacking his character. he got no history of anything not just dumb but legally ehhh. remember kobe's parking lot tirade? rape case? magic announcing he's not gay after his HIV and received a standing ovation? lebron is being lynched for this? vince carter faked an injury to get traded LOL
he endorsed hillary when most of the old gen basketball players you all like kept mum, and / or closet trump supporters.
now if the criticism is "lebron should play better defense, get to the foul line more, post it up more. etc. etc." then it is fair.
all of the superstars had made worse statements regarding their team TO THE MEDIA.
In fact, Charles Barkley coughed "pussy" to his producer on TNT ON AIR.
PLEASE.
and im not even a lebron fan. LOL.
he endorsed hillary when most of the old gen basketball players you all like kept mum, and / or closet trump supporters.
now if the criticism is "lebron should play better defense, get to the foul line more, post it up more. etc. etc." then it is fair.
all of the superstars had made worse statements regarding their team TO THE MEDIA.
In fact, Charles Barkley coughed "pussy" to his producer on TNT ON AIR.
PLEASE.
and im not even a lebron fan. LOL.
You're telling the best player in the league, after all the injuries and player movements this season to ignore their abysmal guard rotation and their free roster spot because they are a lock for second place? I mean who the fuck was there to tell GS that they shouldnt manuever to get KD because" well you cant have everything" and are" at least second place" already?
You could argue that a guy who says he is the best player of all time should be able to win with the roster that the Cavs have.
You can't have it both ways.
And if you open your mouth the way LeBron did against his own team you have to be prepared for some people who will
not agree with said decision.
Syphon Filter
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Kyrie is the reason Cleveland has a championship.
GravityInsanity
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I agree. That block he had on Iggy to give the Cavs a chance to win was amazing.
Except Lebron didn't...?
Jack The Nipper
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There's a new sheriff in town
The roster they have isnt even fully healthy and they still have a free spot. The 73 win Warriors just added Kevin fucking Durant. How the fuck is he having it both ways by suggesting to at least fill their vacant spot?
If you are the best player in the league and want to be considered the best of all time you should be able to win a finals with the Cavs roster. Which I believe he already did.
Let someone else make those comments. If LeBron says it rightfully opens himself up to criticism.
Jack The Nipper
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Cavs were not winning that series without irving or lebron, don't kid yourselves.
Syphon Filter
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Cavs would be up with that kyrie 3 even if iggy was not blocked. the fact is that kyrie made the shot to give them the lead.
Basketball is entertainment. At the end of the day I tune in to the NBA more than college for all of the entertaining factors: high level basketball, matchups, personalities etc.
I like people like Chuck who say whats on their mind even if its wrong.
If I was Lebron though I wouldnt stress out so much over some regular season losses I would focus on resting for the postseason. Golden State is going to get beat up by the Spurs out West so Cleveland being fresher could make all the difference in a hypothetical third meeting between the 2 teams.
Edit: Lebron hit a 3 with 3 mins left to tie the game in the first place so chill with that "Cavs only won because of Kyrie" nonsense.
I like people like Chuck who say whats on their mind even if its wrong.
If I was Lebron though I wouldnt stress out so much over some regular season losses I would focus on resting for the postseason. Golden State is going to get beat up by the Spurs out West so Cleveland being fresher could make all the difference in a hypothetical third meeting between the 2 teams.
Edit: Lebron hit a 3 with 3 mins left to tie the game in the first place so chill with that "Cavs only won because of Kyrie" nonsense.
Jack The Nipper
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What about all the other points, plays of the game? You don't win a game on one shot, you win it in the whole game and from the players that are there.
Syphon Filter
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yea which kyrie also contributed a lot, I am just tired of kyrie not getting enough credit.
Lol.
He has no choice but to respond this way.
LeBron didn't call him anything other than a hater. All that stuff about the gambling and Barkley being a clown is out there as public knowledge. LeBron also called out the whole notion that players weren't friends back in the day, or whatever bullshit that was.
If he wants to take "hater" personal then so be it.
LeBron does things to bring attention to himself. But to his credit it he seems like a good dude. No player goes under more scrutiny, but he's handled himself pretty well all his career. There is literally no dirt on the guy, and I think that's great. Especially for a black athlete. All the shit talk you can throw at him will likely only have to do with basketball.
How do you even know they go with that play if AI scores? A quick iso off a block, tied up is completely different from being down 2 with the ability to inbound the ball.
This stuff doesnt exist in a vacuum. It does matter who you are facing off against in the finals. You would think GS had a quiet offseason looking at some of the logic here.
Totally. What he just said makes Lebron look like a child in comparison.
Uno Venova
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This is why the thread title is hilairous. No one is ever going to "ether" Chuck, he doesn't take things to seriously.
Lebron is the only one coming out of this looking like a salty child. Inside the NBA is going to be hilarious on Thursday.
WesternHeretic
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As a player I think LeBron already put himself in the top 5 with the ceiling of as high as #2. For me personally if he wins another title or not I will never put him above Jordan as well as never winning another wouldn't drop him out of top 5.
As far as CB comments are conceren it's a different generation / era compared to when he played and it's like comparing apple to oranges. There's no point, and half the shit Charles says are stuff he comes up with on the fly without no real thought.
LeBron has already proven everything he needed. His team having a shitty month at the end tail of his career is really nothing surprising or newsworthy. They had a shitty month so what lol. Chances are they won't repeat and everyone kind of knew that going into the season.
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R Charles saying shit just to say shit and Lebron finally responded. Probably should of just ignored it like most of his career.
As far as CB comments are conceren it's a different generation / era compared to when he played and it's like comparing apple to oranges. There's no point, and half the shit Charles says are stuff he comes up with on the fly without no real thought.
LeBron has already proven everything he needed. His team having a shitty month at the end tail of his career is really nothing surprising or newsworthy. They had a shitty month so what lol. Chances are they won't repeat and everyone kind of knew that going into the season.
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R Charles saying shit just to say shit and Lebron finally responded. Probably should of just ignored it like most of his career.Pupperbabysassy
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Again, as bad as you think his quotes are, does not qualify Barkley as a coon(Stephen A. Smith either).
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