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[CCS]

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Will vote before day end, just not sure who for yet.

Was tempted to OMGUS melon, but I don't actually think they're scum.

There's quite a few people where I feel like either I haven't heard enough from them or I'm not familiar enough with how they normally play to come to a judgement yet.

Haven't ruled out acohrs as scum but as I think Cab said, he seems a bit more indisciplined and all over the place than last time, which would make sense if it's his first game on his own (ie without a scum team to guide him).

 

[Ty4on]

I didn't misread you in persona, I started with a slight scum read on you then flipped it to town, here I started with a slight town read and flipped it to scum.

Iirc I was one of your strongest scum read on N1?

 

[Sorian]

Going to bed here in a few, will be back before deadline but I like where my vote is for now. I highly doubt I'm taking my vote away from Ty or Acorhs.

Iirc I was one of your strongest scum read on N1?

I don't know why I wasted my time checking but my last thought on you was a basically "everyone else thinks you're fine so I'll just roll with it since there are bigger fish to fry." Not like that really matters in this game though.

 

[melonrabbit]

I'm honestly puzzled how Tim can be a null read, he's done more than enough to have a harder stance on. Splinter has picked up just now but I'd definitely say he's a lot less certain than Tim

?????

I have played with Splinter more. I'm not sure why this is a weird stance. I do think Tim as been activity but I'm not sure I agree with some of his opinions and I haven't seen enough of him to be able to call this a town play or not. Which is why I'm null.

melon, I look at your read list, and a good number of players that aren't town read are ones I'd be very weary of as Scum and knowing they weren't on my team.


Like your town list:

Sophia :- Can be useful for Town if town-aligned, but also can be reluctant to make votes which make her appear scummy (to me at least)

Splinter :- Has proven before he can go off completely on the wrong tangent as town, and is stubborn so will follow his targets to the death. Also never claims truthfully. Bad lover.

Fran :- Probably the most dangerous town player on your town list, though has a tendency to throw crazy theories out which can be seen as distracting to town.

Ty :- As Town, he's more of a mediator and an alternate opinion among the group, though his reading is reasonably inconsistent.


I understand there's a lot of WIFOM in my argument right now, but honestly it just seems like thinking Sorian, Tim, myself, Kawl, Stan are all not looking town currently is suspect.

I think CCS is currently an easy target, and I town read him for his behaviour. Acohrs is tricky because yeah he could be scum, but again it's not exactly a wild opinion to look at him suspiciously.


You say he's Neutral? as in neutral alignment or a null read? why is neutral used instead of null if so?

I'm not sure why you're point out here. Yes, scum would be worried if any of the top players were town? I don't disagree.

I don't think CCS is an easy target. I haven't seen much discussion around him. And every time he posts it is always about struggling to come up with anything and his voting record is weak.

I see Acohrs as almost being to obvious and to me it seems like they are baiting for votes which is why I'm getting a neutral feeling. Their play has been productive for either side no matter how you slice it.

also melon can you try to go into a bit more detail for your Kyan read please.

Kyan brought up the secret partner think and when pushed brought up Acohrs as suspecious. He doesn't seem as bored/frustrated scum as in prior games. He is acting a little like his town self in Pixar but I'd still like to hear more of anything from him. He has been more relevant to the game that some of our inactive tho.

 

[melonrabbit]

Also, I realize my notes weren't helpful which is why I stopped. They are my interpretation of events, so yes, I'm sure they do have unintended bias.

I still don't have a good impression of you, Doctor.

And I'm not sure what to think of Tim immediately jumping on your vote on me after you came to his defense.

I'll be a work for most of the day. Hope to be back at lunch to comment some more.

 

[cabot]

I have played with Splinter more. I'm not sure why this is a weird stance. I do think Tim as been activity but I'm not sure I agree with some of his opinions and I haven't seen enough of him to be able to call this a town play or not. Which is why I'm null.

This would have been more useful to put in your read list than what you had.

I'm not sure why you're point out here. Yes, scum would be worried if any of the top players were town? I don't disagree.

I don't think CCS is an easy target. I haven't seen much discussion around him. And every time he posts it is always about struggling to come up with anything and his voting record is weak.

I see Acohrs as almost being to obvious and to me it seems like they are baiting for votes which is why I'm getting a neutral feeling. Their play has been productive for either side no matter how you slice it.

My point was your top town are players that can be good to have around, but also have weaknesses that can be exploited via lynch (useful for scum), whereas it's not quite as easy to lead a lynch on players like Kawl, Sorian and I (Tim has been lynched before as Town in Love Boat, but he was fairly inactive) without actual PRs doing some work. That was what popped out to me when I went through that reads list.

I don't think CCS is an easy target. I haven't seen much discussion around him. And every time he posts it is always about struggling to come up with anything and his voting record is weak.

I see Acohrs as almost being to obvious and to me it seems like they are baiting for votes which is why I'm getting a neutral feeling. Their play has been productive for either side no matter how you slice it.

You could objectively apply that point for acohrs to either CCS or acohrs right now. CCS has now been discussed and he's been involved in some discussion generating events. Voting record seems a weak argument when it's D1 and no votes have actually taken place. He's been choosing easy targets but he has now clarified he's going to vote before deadline. Maybe then you can work from that record once the day ends.

 

[cabot]

Also, I realize my notes weren't helpful which is why I stopped. They are my interpretation of events, so yes, I'm sure they do have unintended bias.

I still don't have a good impression of you, Doctor.

And I'm not sure what to think of Tim immediately jumping on your vote on me after you came to his defense.

I'll be a work for most of the day. Hope to be back at lunch to comment some more.

You can have a bad impression, I just felt your notes weren't particularly useful to post and you've made mistakes in your assumptions which has me questioning your impression.

 

[cabot]

do you think scum!Tim would follow scum!cabot's vote so quickly after my response to you?

 

[cabot]

OK. Changing tactics. However, here is where I’m at after reviewing the thread.

SCUM

Cabot – Not feeling the good doctor. Can’t put it into coherent words yet, so purely gut something is wrong here. Slight Scum.

My problem is above, you're throwing shade but you're not willing to give me a real reason why.

 

[cabot]

Alright, keeping things fresh I will be taking a step back from melon and commenting on some other posts I saw this morning.

Exhibit A

had some other garbage come up after getting home. not going to be able to have something tonight as I have to go to sleep for work. but i'll slack off at work and have something out in the morning.

Vote: Kawl_USC

lynch me if I don't

Kawl you've had history with self voting, a specific self hammer in a certain wrasslin' themed game. What even was the point of this? Triggering me just make you too happy?

Why not simply unvote? why vote yourself?

Apologies, everyone. The weekend kind of got away from me, so I haven't really had a chance to sit down and type. Gonna try to go through quickly and give my thoughts.

Pop-O-Matic - Null Read
Currently has the fewest posts other than me, and that post came in on Saturday. Nothing at all to go on except for a barely explained vote on Sophia.

They've yet to respond to a prod vote place on them by StanleyPalmtree.

Unless I'm forgetting, this is my first game with Pop, so I'm not sure how active he usually is or if that changes based on alignment.

StanleyPalmtree - Slight Scum Read
While posting and taking part in conversations, there isn't much to glean from those posts.

His most informative post is the one in which he votes for Pop.
There, he states:
That he's glad that Sorian is getting people talking, while still disagreeing with him.
That he currently buys Acohrs "I'm new" defense, mostly since they continued to post instead of hiding from their mistakes.

Later, when questioned further on the Pop vote, he says that he wants to make sure that no one gets lost amidst all the other, more talkative, players.

Acohrs - Slight Scum Read
As someone who still feels new to the game, I wasn't quite sure how to feel about you at first.
A few things that caught my attention:
Not sure how I feel about your rugby chat with CCS. Felt a little bit forced and out of place.
Not even a day into the game and you brought up wanting to lynch the most inactive player. For obvious reasons, I'm against that idea, but maybe you also knew your team wasn't in danger with that plan.

While I'm also not sure about you or Stanley, though, I do agree with him about your dedication to stick around despite it making you a target and topic of discussion.
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And I got started on this a lot later than I had hoped, so here are a few LIGHTING ROUND reads.

Splinter- Leaning Town, seems to be less aggressive than when I played with him when he was scum.
MagnumBoy20xx - Most of his posts at this point have been him defending his vote on AbsolutBro, and his definition of active.
Kyanrute - Called me out for saying something he has said before as scum. I'll be the first to admit, I'm a pretty weak player, especially day one. I've been lynched in the past for it, and posted what I said partially as a way to kick myself into playing better.

For everyone else, I'm having trouble coming up with anything useful that hasn't already been discussed. There are a lot of relationships forming, though, which will be fun to look into more after a flip or two.

can you maybe talk a little bit more about the relationships you see that are forming?

 

[cabot]

VOTE: Pop-O-Matic

 

[CzarTim]

I mean he's a replacement candidate at this point fam

 

[cabot]

Sometimes when people see their name in red, they react!

 

[acohrs]

Sometimes when people see their name in red, they react!

Do you have a special licence to use that trademarked property?

 

[cabot]

what a surprising reference there.

Top 3 scum and why acohrs, go.

 

[CzarTim]

Guess I gotta give PiR a read then

Sure. Is it for W/W or just general read?

Spoiler

W/W, wolf/wolf, usually used to see if two people interact as if they weren't both scum

I kinda think Sorian/Sophia are not on the same team after they wrote so close in parallel. It looks kinda scummy that they're not talking much too eachother, but it looks too obvious. Like this defence:


Scum generally don't defend their mates like this.

How does this preclude a Sophia / Sorian scum team? Not seeing it.

 

[Ty4on]

Did a quick look of Splinter in PiR last night, feel like he is town here. Scum!splinter is more aggressive and certain while there's a little more back and forth and thought in town!splinter's posts.

 

[CCS]

Very quick lunch post, feel like my top town are Cab and Splinter. They're both contributing a lot and I feel that their posts clarify the thinking and help town focus, rather than muddying and obfuscating.

 

[acohrs]

what a surprising reference there.

Top 3 scum and why acohrs, go.

1. Sorian - his posts just don't sit right with me, presents his view then when challenged goes on offensive usually. Maybe it's a 'weak' vote but it's what my gut says.

2. Magnum/Absolut/Ynnek/Nin - all have posted enough to be active but just trying to keep head down and stay undetected, my guess is one of them is a scum PR that is a x number of shots killer that wants to keep their head down for a day or two so they can use their PR.

Think Natiko is definitely town, his analysis has been very detailed and helpful.

Not sure why Ty4on is being targeted, looks to me like something happened in a previous game and peeps are jumping on that rather than now.

 

[Ty4on]

How does this preclude a Sophia / Sorian scum team? Not seeing it.

From Sophia's perspective the way she butted in and supported Sorian's positions felt very uncomfortable for me. It's from 670 to 682. It feels like as scum you'd just leave it to your scum mate to deal with instead of supporting them or fake some aggression against them.

 

[CzarTim]

From Sophia's perspective the way she butted in and supported Sorian's positions felt very uncomfortable for me. It's from 670 to 682. It feels like as scum you'd just leave it to your scum mate to deal with instead of supporting them or fake some aggression against them.

Okay yes, that one post seemed weak but the others are stronger

 

[cabot]

a) 1. Sorian - his posts just don't sit right with me, presents his view then when challenged goes on offensive usually. Maybe it's a 'weak' vote but it's what my gut says.

b) 2. Magnum/Absolut/Ynnek/Nin - all have posted enough to be active but just trying to keep head down and stay undetected, my guess is one of them is a scum PR that is a x number of shots killer that wants to keep their head down for a day or two so they can use their PR.

Think Natiko is definitely town, his analysis has been very detailed and helpful.

Not sure why Ty4on is being targeted, looks to me like something happened in a previous game and peeps are jumping on that rather than now.

a) what would be the way to respond to being challenged that you would read as town?

b) Could just as easily be a town PR.

 

[CzarTim]

Scum obviously have three roleblockers and a strongman vig. I can tell because some people are quiet.

 

[Ty4on]

Not sure why Ty4on is being targeted, looks to me like something happened in a previous game and peeps are jumping on that rather than now.

I think they find my playstyle here similar to how I play as scum. That's not terribly wrong, I tend to jump onto things really quickly as town and post outlandish theories while as scum I struggle to make decent scum reads. As for why; I've been more tired, especially real life D2, but in general I haven't been going at full speed into this thread which is reminiscent of playing as scum where I have to self motivate myself. After a string of misreads I'm also less certain. I'm not having the greatest feelings about Sorian, but I don't wanna spend 50% of my energy studying his posts like I did in Persona for no gain. This is also a game with a lot of good players so scum team is most likely quite competent. I find myself falling into the same trap of town reading generally active players and making a scum team of the less active "maybes" like Ynnek, Magnum etc. I guess AB and maaaaybe CCS feel ok. AB's analysis post wasn't that bad in retrospect.

Townie I guess I'd put Natiko, CzarTim, Splinter and AB. Neither of them play in a way hard for scum to fake, but an unlikely playstyle for scum. Hard to scale them because they're so different, but maybe AB at the bottom.
Splinter's isn't that hard to fake, but he's also playing much more passively which really strikes me as odd for scum!splinter to do.
Natiko could be scum, but is doing a great job of mixing his play up and it doesn't seem to be working when several are scum reading him. Just doesn't make that much sense for scum!natiko to play like this when he's really good at coasting while seeming active.
CzarTim is more fluffy as scum, but if he's motivated and focused on winning I could see scum!Czar playing like this. He seems a bit to be caring too much about the game though for scum.

Sophia is hard because I don't have a good scum comparison, but I don't like her "look at this. hmm hmm" posts when I remember her town analysis being more thoughtful and kinda more direct instead of this sorta throwing shade. It's doesn't feel that different, she's still doubting, but she seems more focused on building an agenda.

 

[Ty4on]

Okay yes, that one post seemed weak but the others are stronger

What do you mean by stronger and which ones are you talking about?

 

[acohrs]

a) what would be the way to respond to being challenged that you would read as town?

b) Could just as easily be a town PR.

a) not so frustrated and aggressive, feels more like he's trying to force a particular narrative that he wants pushed. Seeing other townies present their arguments and narratives like Natiko, and they don't sound as frustrated. Particularly on D1, plenty of time to get others to come round or decide.

b) that's true too and I can see why one would think that based on the evidence. TBH, there's several names in that list, I could see one being a scum PR and one also being a townie PR. Which one is which though, will be slightly easier to see after tonight's actions

 

[Ty4on]

Like this:

I don't know if I'd describe Stanley's attitude as "doesn't care" so much as "laid back" And considering it's won him games, I can't exactly fault him for it.

That being said, a quick look over his posts doesn't show much actual engagement on his part.



While I disagree with Splinter in regards to that being a town read in any sense, as it's a very easy statement to make as scum. Ty has a lot of "fluff" questions in his posts. Questions that, when you look at them, make you think "Does this really help get anyone closer to finding scum?"

For example.







He's also been fishing for reads with some of those questions. Which, on it's own isn't really alignment indicative, but does raise eyebrows when you take into account the other fluff questions.

There's way more agenda (Ty4on is scummy) than thought. A tunnel is fine, but Sophia isn't tunneling.
In general it feels like her posts have a predetermined opinion that she is arguing for instead of thinking about the situation at hand. Feels like there should be more nuance.

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I'm running out of time before work starts and don't really feel like melon is scum atm.

VOTE: Sophia

 

[CzarTim]

What do you mean by stronger and which ones are you talking about?

The post you quoted does not seem like a defense of Sorian's argument. All she says is she hasn't played with ab enough to make a judgement. That's why your post confused me. Her next post in the thread is much more straightforward back up of him and the follow ups continue down that path. Too lazy to look up numbers.

I'd agree with you that it would be weird of her to enter the conversation like that if they were on the same team.

 

[StanleyPalmtree]

oh, hey, the game end in 8 hours, who knew?
shit.
i had somehow forgotten how dick'd i tend to get by the time-zones

well, i sure aint leaving my vote on Pop, though i cant pretend that i have any stellar kickass surefire targets at the ready.

seems like the most suspicion/votes at this point are pointing toward Achors and Ty4on?

with the 'inexperienced' defense kinda shattered, i definitely dont like Achors play very much, only im stuck with the constant thought that it feels way to bad to be scum, like, the big push against sorian earlier was just impotent, seemingly desperate, instincts a yelling at me that it would be a just terrible play for a scum to make.
yeah, shit, 360 time, iv convinced myself i dont think Achors is scum.

looking back over more of Ty4ons posts ......
well i mean the arguments against him make sense, i just dont see it.

gah! duck it, this probably not gona go anywhere but

vote: CCS

painfully noncommittal play the entire day, and that whole rugby thing, has just left me with nothing but the bad vibes.

sleep time, good luck with the poor decision making you crazy kids.

 

[CCS]

Does anyone want to discuss Liam Williams moving to Saracens?

Failing that:

VOTE: Ty4on

Screw it, going back to my earlier vote.

 

[franconp]

Does anyone want to discuss Liam Williams moving to Saracens?

Failing that:

VOTE: Ty4on

Screw it, going back to my earlier vote.

I'm sorry if you said it before but I'm on mobile and is a pain to look it up but, why did you vote ty?

 

[CCS]

I'm sorry if you said it before but I'm on mobile and is a pain to look it up but, why did you vote ty?

I don't have any particularly strong scum reads, so it mostly just comes down to not quite feeling right about how Ty is playing. He's posted quite a lot but I'm not sure how much he's really said.

 

[franconp]

I don't have any particularly strong scum reads, so it mostly just comes down to not quite feeling right about how Ty is playing. He's posted quite a lot but I'm not sure how much he's really said.

Ok. If you don't mind, how are your reads with Acohrs, Magnum and melon?

 

[Kawl_USC]

Alright, keeping things fresh I will be taking a step back from melon and commenting on some other posts I saw this morning.

Exhibit A



Kawl you've had history with self voting, a specific self hammer in a certain wrasslin' themed game. What even was the point of this? Triggering me just make you too happy?

Why not simply unvote? why vote yourself?




can you maybe talk a little bit more about the relationships you see that are forming?

It was a form of self pressure to ensure I slacked off appropriately at work for this. Need that extra kick in the ass some time.

Plus the triggering was a plus.

On the topic of melon, I'm curious as to why the "do you really think a scum team would let a less experienced scum mate make these mistakes" defense has been applied to someone (I think CCS?) but isn't applied in this case. Notes with no analysis and such obvious little biases here and there as well as the opening survey both seem like high visibility things that our meta has shifted hard enough into not helpful while appearing helpful so it's scummy as all hell that scum!splinter or scum!sorian knows how it's going to appear. I don't think this early a scum team goes to the next level of saying yea melon does these things it's pretty scummy looking, so it will be that top scummy to be scum feel. I think a scum team tells you not to do those things.

I don't think melon is scum is what I'm getting at.

 

[CCS]

Ok. If you don't mind, how are your reads with Acohrs, Magnum and melon?

Acohrs is town, mostly based off the fact that he feels quite different to when he was scum. More chaotic, less in control.

Magnum is pretty much null. I don't know if he's barely posted or I've skimmed over his posts but I don't really have an impression of him.

Melon could be scum, was choosing between her and Ty but I wonder if my view might be beinf clouded by OMGUS. Still tempted to vote for her though.

 

[Kawl_USC]

Acohrs is town, mostly based off the fact that he feels quite different to when he was scum. More chaotic, less in control.

Magnum is pretty much null. I don't know if he's barely posted or I've skimmed over his posts but I don't really have an impression of him.

Melon could be scum, was choosing between her and Ty but I wonder if my view might be beinf clouded by OMGUS. Still tempted to vote for her though.

Lots of reasons that could lead to behavior change especially with a sample size of one. Do you think chaos is beneficial to town versus scum?

 

[CCS]

Lots of reasons that could lead to behavior change especially with a sample size of one. Do you think chaos is beneficial to town versus scum?

The basic point is that he feels like a new player without guidance to me, whereas last game he had guidance. He feels like he's not getting help outside of this thread.

 

[Kawl_USC]

The basic point is that he feels like a new player without guidance to me, whereas last game he had guidance. He feels like he's not getting help outside of this thread.

Guidance can take many forms.

 

[CCS]

Guidance can take many forms.

True, but I feel like there's a line between deliberate too scummy to be scum play, and just playing weirdly. I think he's in the second category.

 

[Kawl_USC]

Me? Groose, vanilla town.

Did you ever clear up why this post was made CCS?

 

[CCS]

Did you ever clear up why this post was made CCS?

Because it's the truth.

 

[Kawl_USC]

Because it's the truth.

That's not how role claims work dawg.

 

[CCS]

That's not how role claims work dawg.

Rather unfortunately, this isn't part of some weird gambit.

 

[cabot]

It was a form of self pressure to ensure I slacked off appropriately at work for this. Need that extra kick in the ass some time.

Plus the triggering was a plus.

On the topic of melon, I'm curious as to why the "do you really think a scum team would let a less experienced scum mate make these mistakes" defense has been applied to someone (I think CCS?) but isn't applied in this case. Notes with no analysis and such obvious little biases here and there as well as the opening survey both seem like high visibility things that our meta has shifted hard enough into not helpful while appearing helpful so it's scummy as all hell that scum!splinter or scum!sorian knows how it's going to appear. I don't think this early a scum team goes to the next level of saying yea melon does these things it's pretty scummy looking, so it will be that top scummy to be scum feel. I think a scum team tells you not to do those things.

I don't think melon is scum is what I'm getting at.

I don't know but I know I've seen scum do it before. Hyper has done it, hobo did it in vampire. Maybe Melon didn't consult.

I don't see CCS claiming a role and name without consultation from scum team mates however

 

[Kawl_USC]

I don't know but I know I've seen scum do it before. Hyper has done it, hobo did it in vampire. Maybe Melon didn't consult.

I don't see CCS claiming a role and name without consultation from scum team mates however

I guess the difference is I see one of those two people as diligent enough to check with their team and not fly off half cocked.

 

[Natiko]

Fiiiine, I'll cut you some slack. The notes are pretty good tho.

Also you spoke too soon, Ty. XD

Looking back over, she had a lot of early game fluff and not much substance. Getting past the fluff, she argued that Bronx seemed like an easy target to myslynch. That makes me wonder if she knew his alignment already, but I can't imagine scum would be that blatant. There's some prodding and questions, the vast majority of it seems to go nowhere.

Her posts now have something more to go off on, mainly because her notes have a conclusion attached to them. That being said, they're lacking in major hard stances.

So I don't know what to think.

Generalized notes are really not needed. The purpose of notes is a) show your work on a specific subject you wish to discuss and b) jog your memory when you personally re-read them.

These series of posts strike me as a bit curious. Bit of whiplash there. Did you realize it wasn't making Melon look good after all and not want to sound out of place compared to townies? You went from "this is good" to "this is eh" to "this is shit" in less than a page.

By that logic, I spent way more time having a tiff with Kawl than anything. Not really the original point of this conversation though, it was about why I think some people are fake and some are genuine in getting others to talk. That said, would love to see a raise of hands of who actually read much from what melon wrote from her notes because I know I didn't. I don't even say that to quell conversation but because summarizing what has happened doesn't assist in much of anything.

Your "tiff" with Kawl was nonsense. He instantly discredited his posts and said they were meaningless and you were arguing that's bad play in general. More an argument about the spirit of the game than his alignment. Your focus on Bronx was to paint him as scum and the entire time you did it you were saying how his play could be town or scum. At that point you might as well just be saying "your play is play".

Not particularly a fan on day one reads lists, so I won't be doing one. Unless someone does something obvious I prefer to keep my mind open at this stage and not put labels on people that will muddy my thinking later.

I don't think you're scum but boy does this read scummy. "I don't like sharing opinions because it can lead to me getting caught in lies or incriminating my teammates"

also melon can you try to go into a bit more detail for your Kyan read please.

Was this ever done? I did not notice it but I'm on mobile. I would like to hear more about this as well.

Also, I realize my notes weren't helpful which is why I stopped. They are my interpretation of events, so yes, I'm sure they do have unintended bias.

Did you realize they weren't helpful or did you realize you were starting to look suspicious by taking such boiler plate notes?

Think Natiko is definitely town, his analysis has been very detailed and helpful.

Not sure that I like you mentioning me a couple times as the example of town all of a sudden once a few people started criticizing me. Feels like you're trying to draw a connection between us in hopes I will get lynched instead of you should it boil down to that.

There was no crazy theories in Persona and someone who was in that game could back me up. Just the lightning rod and the blame is on Natiko and, mostly, Sophia, who didn't make it sound as a lightning rod at all in the PM.

Hey now, no need to assign blame.

Spoiler

I totally screwed you over lol

I am at work but will be checking in and trying to respond as needed.

 

[cabot]

CCS has done pre than one weird thing in this game do you believe he's just ignoring his scum team pals?

Ideal play for day one if scum is to avoid the limelight CCS has not played this way, which means he's being bold as scum or he's not scum.

His actions have been unnecessary, strange and anti town. The claim was the first of such. Hell it wasn't even getting attention until I raised it a bit more.

So we have bold scum ccs who Insta claimed vanilla and then did the rugby chat which made him change a vote target, doing what he damn pleases ignoring scum chat. I'm sure after that claim you're scum mates would be telling you to lay low a bit

 

[CCS]

CCS has done pre than one weird thing in this game do you believe he's just ignoring his scum team pals?

Ideal play for day one if scum is to avoid the limelight CCS has not played this way, which means he's being bold as scum or he's not scum.

His actions have been unnecessary, strange and anti town. The claim was the first of such. Hell it wasn't even getting attention until I raised it a bit more.

So we have bold scum ccs who Insta claimed vanilla and then did the rugby chat which made him change a vote target, doing what he damn pleases ignoring scum chat. I'm sure after that claim you're scum mates would be telling you to lay low a bit

Can confirm, scum chat is very annoyed with me

 

[cabot]

Whos your scum suspects kawl

 

[Kawl_USC]

So, he was scum 5 times in 6 games, right?

I like those odds.

I saw some discussion on that the first page, but I just need to check everyone knows that's not how odds work right? It was getting under my skin.