Never said either of them played a particularly good game. Town or scum don't think anyone's made that accusation at CCS.
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Legend of Zelda Mafia |OT| A Lynch to the Past
- Thread starter Sawneeks
- Start date
I will only focus on the CCS------Acohrs voting for now, even though Sophia was behind CCS with 4 votes Acohrs turned out to be mafia and therefore its far more interesting to watch it go down. ( Will look onto the Sophia votes later )
15 Minutes before day end CCS was leading in vote count with 5
ccs (5)
melonrabbit 756
stanleypalmtree 829
kawl_usc 865
bronx-man 987
sophia 1007
Acohrs right after him and Sophia with 3 votes
acohrs (3)
natiko 590
franconp 770
acohrs 889 (997) <----- The selfvote was as many pointed out very strange and should / will be looked into.
cabot 979
xx:45[/URL]Sorian Puts a vote down on acors putting him on the same vote count as Sophia , right behind CCS.
[URL="http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=227967490&postcount=1062"]xx:50Yennek7 puts his vote down for CCS
xx:52*splinter comes out of the bushes and between sophia ccs and acohrs, he choses him
xx:56 nin follows his gut and votes acohrs
xx:56CzarTim , who asked If I flip aco, will someone else join? a minute before , votes acohrs aswell, thanking nin
xx:58Kyanrute wants to increase the lead
xx:58acohrs wants to force a tie and votes CCS
xx:58AB replies to an old franconp post ( votes were CCS 6, acohrs 5 and Sophia 4 )and votes CCS
xx:59Ty4on says he did not know ccs had that many votes and puts a vote down for acohrs
xx:59Natiko says "no" and unvotes his vote which was sitting on acohrs
xx:59Sophia who initially had her vote on CCS, changes it to acohrs
xx:59Cabot decides to unvote ( vote was sitting on acohrs)
xx:00AB unvotes ( vote was on CCS )
For MY money i will either go down on Natiko Cabot and or AB ( who maybe just made a honest mistake ). But i will follow my gut
Vote:Cabot
15 Minutes before day end CCS was leading in vote count with 5
ccs (5)
melonrabbit 756
stanleypalmtree 829
kawl_usc 865
bronx-man 987
sophia 1007
Acohrs right after him and Sophia with 3 votes
acohrs (3)
natiko 590
franconp 770
cabot 979
xx:45[/URL]Sorian Puts a vote down on acors putting him on the same vote count as Sophia , right behind CCS.
[URL="http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=227967490&postcount=1062"]xx:50Yennek7 puts his vote down for CCS
xx:52*splinter comes out of the bushes and between sophia ccs and acohrs, he choses him
xx:56 nin follows his gut and votes acohrs
xx:56CzarTim , who asked If I flip aco, will someone else join? a minute before , votes acohrs aswell, thanking nin
xx:58Kyanrute wants to increase the lead
xx:58acohrs wants to force a tie and votes CCS
xx:58AB replies to an old franconp post ( votes were CCS 6, acohrs 5 and Sophia 4 )and votes CCS
xx:59Ty4on says he did not know ccs had that many votes and puts a vote down for acohrs
xx:59Natiko says "no" and unvotes his vote which was sitting on acohrs
xx:59Sophia who initially had her vote on CCS, changes it to acohrs
xx:59Cabot decides to unvote ( vote was sitting on acohrs)
xx:00AB unvotes ( vote was on CCS )
For MY money i will either go down on Natiko Cabot and or AB ( who maybe just made a honest mistake ). But i will follow my gut
Vote:Cabot
Ouch
Hey, we got a scum kill out of it, and a pretty strong PR at that. I'm playing 12D chess while you're playing checkers
Well you can see the minutes and you can see that acohrs and AbsolutBro both vote for CCS with a xx:58 time stamp. Four more posts come in at xx:58 with no one breaking the tie. Sorian even says to get it untied so as soon as I see it hit xx:59 I panic and unvote. Ty votes at nearly the same time. You can tell our posts came early because five more come after at xx:59 including a Sorian one which means he had time to get through his post cooldown.
I unvoted purely to prevent what was at the time a tie. I was still in support of an acohrs lynch. I was sitting there refreshing hoping the tie would be broke at once I saw there was under a minute to go I went in and unvoted.
So I take it you presume we have a neutral killer? They're both ok targets, but I think it's most likely Sorian was targeted by a strongman. Reminds me of my teams panic kill in OW.
Could you go through why you changed your vote to acohrs and what you thought of the two at the end of yesterday?
I won't lie its not my job to see why you unvoted, I just remember seeing it in the car and the mythical no being standout to me. It's your job to explain it to me.
that is true, considering its only a small part of Day 1, but its a hint. A messy part of the day that we will have to unravel.
Do you remember how many seconds were left when you last checked?
I presume nothing about the second kill at this time, other then the fact that it is unclear as to why we have two kills.
I saw votes shift to acohrs, and had no strong opinions either way, so I voted purely to avoid a tie.
I literally just explained it to you. I unvoted because it was a tie. It was a tie at xx:58 and I waited enough time for it to hit xx:59 and a tie was never broken, so I unvoted. You did literally the same exact thing. You saw it was a tie at xx:59, waited a bit and did not see the tie breaking so you unvoted. Sophia AND L_P had time to post before you submitted your post. It's the exact same situation.
Right, and i was saying thats why i asked you, ending the discussion thread.
Why? Wouldn't it be helpful, especially being that close to being lynched yourself, to find good arguments for voting out one of the two?
No, I just know that once I saw it hit xx:59 and the tie was not broke I went in and typed out my unvote and put "No". I didn't put a full explanation as I knew at that point time was getting tight.
My apologies then cab, I took it as you implying I had not explained which just seemed bizarre. Poor reading comprehension on my part.
If need be I can go back and point out the multiple times I pushed for an acohrs lynch, even when he was not in contention for one. If I truly didn't want to lynch acohrs I would have hopped off that vote and switched to CCS or Sophia when they were tied and each had a one vote lead over acohrs (around 30 minutes left at this point) or when Ynnek7 voted CCS and gave him a two vote lead over everyone (around 10 minutes left).
I would like to talk about another topic when the chance permits though. I had two night actions happen to me.
It would have been helpful, yes. But sadly, I didn't have.
Only insofar as breaking a tie. Switching my vote at the time of the post you quoted would have created a three way tie with all of us having four votes instead of CCS being in the lead.
A self voyeur?
1. Hasn't sor pretty much dropped Bronx?
2 why are you so sure it was scum who killed him?
During the down time I did my own analysis of the votes and the way they all rolled in. I'm of the opinion that there's scum amongst Bronx/Melon/Stanley. I also am not convinced CCS isn't scum.
I first was given an item. It was a beneficial one for town. I then had it stolen in a separate night action.
1) no idea
2) Sorian was on acohrs early and was proactive, aggressive. I would've considered him being a decent doctor target. So yeah, i'd be weary of NKing him N1 unless I had a strong kill or such.
Maybe a non-scum has a strong kill but its less likely than scum strong kill.
Interesting. Thief got lucky it seems.
Thats nothing new mate, want to ask me a real quest...
That is indeed true, But its still Cabot > Natiko / AB
for the moment thoght.
Why am I above the others?
And that makes it much more harder to chose.
Because in my book, a cabot does not make such silly mistakes.
Would thief be a neutral role or a town role? Hopefully the item is still with town.
I know I'm town and invested plenty of time pushing for acohrs to be lynched. I personally do not think cabot is scum either due to his play throughout the day phase.
Have thieves generally been scum or town? Never played with one.
There was a scum one in star wars, it's kind of anti town.`
Your response seems genuine
My vote for CCS was a mistake. I thought I knew acohrs' scum meta based of Pop Mafia, but I was wrong. Apologies to CCS.
says the guy voting for someone for unvoting lol
How was it a mistake? You clearly thought CCS was more likely to be scum than acohrs. What has changed between now and then? I don't see why you shouldn't still consider CCS to be scum.
Does the apology mean that you think CCS is town? If so, what makes you think that?
Neutral at best imo.
The vote itself isn't great, but what really bothers me is how you hedged with aco saying you'd vote there the next day. Feels like you were hedging in the event aco flipped.
I find it extremely unlikely that we managed to catch two scum in one day. The fact that both of you have had multiple scum reads on yourselves and are pushing me to focus on someone who almost was lynched yesterday is pretty suspect.
I said that because I thought one of them had to be scum. If CCS didn't flip, then that meant acohrs was scum and I would've voted for him immediately at the start of today.
Hmm... all three unvotes that Nin mentioned happened in a relatively short timeframe (under a minute) and plus you unvoted about the same time I voted for acohrs.
I dunno Nin, I'm not so certain cabot's vote there is alignment indicative.
Strange conclusion, what made you so sure of that?
I'm pretty sure more discussion surrounded you potentially being scum than both myself and kyan combined, but okay Bronx lol