You know just Tomb Raider 2, Colin McRae Rally, Final Fantasy 7, Formula 1 , Metal Gear Solid.There's very few exclusives that won't end up on PC eventually and I'm patient. What were the better PS1 exclusives coming out on PC at that time? Performance wise it seems worse this gen or it could be that I've gotten spoiled. A pro console might be worthwhile but otherwise I don't see the point.
Don't know. Didn't care about those games except for MGS at part 2. The exclusives that I was into were fighters, arcade games, Resident Evil, Gran Tursimo among others. I didn't get my own PC until about midway through the PS3/360 gen in any case and didn't know too much about them before that.You know just Tomb Raider 2, Colin McRae Rally, Final Fantasy 7, Formula 1 , Metal Gear Solid.
And you took of performance how well did Doom run on the PS compared to the PC or what about Quake 2.
Just wait for valve to come back to steam machines and you will have something great but affordable in consoles factor. Sony is fucked if valve goes this way.
Yeah like PS owners didn't care for FF7 or Tomb Raider 2. Remind me again why SONY paid EDIOS a multi-million pound contract to keep Tomb Raider IP exclusives to PS consolesDon't know. Didn't care about those games except for MGS at part 2. The exclusives that I was into were fighters, arcade games, Resident Evil, Gran Tursimo among others. I didn't get my own PC until about midway through the PS3/360 gen in any case and didn't know too much about them before that.
Only people that buy consoles exclusively for their exclusives would jump ship. I'm assuming that most of us that voted no don't even own a gaming PC.Guarantee you at least 80% of the people saying "No" are lying.
Yeah like PS owners didn't care for FF7 or Tomb Raider 2. Remind me again why SONY paid EDIOS a multi-million pound contract to keep Tomb Raider IP exclusives to PS consoles
BTW RE was multi-platform and also out on the PC and the Power VR PC version looked so much better too
Only people that buy consoles exclusively for their exclusives would jump ship. I'm assuming that most of us that voted no don't even own a gaming PC.
Before you hit back with the Saturn and Stolar crap. I think the TR deal was done before Stolar took over SOA and that's to look over the fact that the SONY deal stopped Tomb Raider IP on the N64, but never mindMaybe because by the time they did, the SEGA Saturn was already dead in the West and Bernie Stolar made that official at E3 1997? If I'm a competitor, I would capitalize on that because 3P were dropping Saturn left and right by that point.
But yes, "Evil Sony", apparently. Also once again, ignoring how Saturn's problems in the West helped the N64 almost as much as they did the PS1 :/
RE1 barely got a Saturn port which was handled by Tose, not Capcom directly, because Capcom didn't make a 3D game for Saturn until the mediocre Final Fight Revenge.
And no duh the Dreamcast version looked better; it was 1997/1998 technology vs. gaming tech from late 1993/1994. Four years of advancements, you'd better hope it looks better
Not true. There is a sizable amount of hardcore/core enthusiasts who buy consoles for exclusives in addition to the other games being there, because the exclusives help make them decide to get the console itself, when it's all the other stuff in addition to them that keep them there.
If you remove the exclusives, you give a lot of those customers (who are also usually the early adopters) no reason to consider getting a console versus paying a bit more for a PC that can get all the same 3P games, the 1P games, 1P games from other consoles, superior retro emulation, better setup for streaming, and various business & creative productivity abilities plus upgradability all in one package.
Not to mention: free online, usually cheaper game prices, more storefront options, open modding support etc. There would literally be no reason to get a PlayStation if all the games were on PC Day 1, especially if you're a hardcore or core enthusiast gamer because, I doubt paying a bit extra upfront for the PC is a bother for you.
I'm not talking about PS owners I was talking about myself and I didn't care for those games nor did I have the money for my own PC or know anything much about them at that time. It's different now. Even then it was the exclusive Diablo 2 that first really made me want to get a PC.Yeah like PS owners didn't care for FF7 or Tomb Raider 2. Remind me again why SONY paid EDIOS a multi-million pound contract to keep Tomb Raider IP exclusives to PS consoles
BTW RE was multi-platform and also out on the PC and the Power VR PC version looked so much better too
Yeah Ok.. in a thread about PlayStation games on PC keep it coming ,,,I'm not talking about PS owners I was talking about myself and I didn't care for those games nor did I have the money for my own PC or know anything much about them at that time. It's different now. Even then it was the exclusive Diablo 2 that first really made me want to get a PC.
Yeah and I used to buy every playstation and sometimes other consoles too if they had enough exclusives to make them worthwhile. This might be the 1st gen ever that I don't get a console since the exclusives aren't there.Yeah Ok.. in a thread about PlayStation games on PC keep it coming ,,,
man for what reason? What reason would you have to lie about being a console loyalist?Guarantee you at least 80% of the people saying "No" are lying.
Yeah and I owned a PC too in 1996 Didn't make me a PC gamer, even back then when PC 'had enough exclusives to make them worthwhile'Yeah and I used to buy every playstation and sometimes other consoles too if they had enough exclusives to make them worthwhile. This might be the 1st gen ever that I don't get a console since the exclusives aren't there.
Now if you get a decent enough PC you get access to nearly all the games with better performance, mods, free online and quite often better game prices. Nearly every peripheral works too.Yeah and I owned a PC too in 1996 Didn't make me a PC gamer, even back then when PC 'had enough exclusives to make them worthwhile'
What about those who think the consoles are to expensive also. I mean sure, I'd buy a us$499 PS5 rather quickly, however that's not the price I'd have to pay, more like us$680+.This is a good thing isn't it?
If you don't own a PC and you have the means to build a very good one then I can understand the need to upgrade
If you don't own a PC and you can't afford to build a very good one then there's a PS console for you
Its good to have options.
Before you hit back with the Saturn and Stolar crap. I think the TR deal was done before Stolar took over SOA and that's to look over the fact that the SONY deal stopped Tomb Raider IP on the N64, but never mind
Lots of ports are farmed out and that's always been the case, Who handled the PS port of Doom I very much doubt it was id and how did the PS port of Street Fighter Vs X-men Go if you want to Capcom system bash?
And Duh the likes of Hundred Swords and House of the Dead 2 were launched not far off their from their DC counterparts, so spare me your PC drivel.
Are you a system-16.com I love Tom Kalinske Warrior btw LOL
man for what reason? What reason would you have to lie about being a console loyalist?
People want to stay in the ecosystem that they're invested in regardless of how good gaming on PC may be. Simple fact of life. Just because PC may have the most games, features, and stuff available it doesn't necessarily make it the supreme option for all gamers.
Not "a lot" for console equivalent builds
Didn't bother even to really optimize this as bundles and deals would lower this much further, with the 6700XT often dropping in prices, or the intel or AMD bundles would lower prices of CPU/motherboard/memory.
I could probably even shave off to a lower tier CPU as really consoles aren't really stressing this with the equivalent settings. Digital Foundry used a mere 12400F here
It's expensive if you want top tier. A reasonable mid range PC is fine. With deals and a bit of time spent optimizing it (which I don't have for the sake of an argument), I would see this easily go in the ~$650 range. Then you don't pay for online subscriptions and you get cheap deals on games from competing stores. Easily evaporates the difference.
Also when you think about it, a console-equivalent PC is actually cheaper in the long-run than the console itself. Because if you want a fully-functioning PS (or Xbox), you need to pay for PS+, the basic version being $80/year. Even if you get it on discount for the original $60/year price, over the course of a console generation, you're paying $420 for full online play on a console. Whereas that is 100% free on PC.
I already did a list with a mock build PC equivalent to a PS5 in specs, and the total cost was ~ $780. Yes that's obviously more than a PS5 (and I didn't include a mouse or keyboard, but you can get basic functioning ones for like $10 each, it's not very hard at all), but what about a PS5 + 7 years of PS+ Essentials? Oh what's this, now it's $920 vs $780...hmm I could even bump up the system RAM a bit more or go with a GPU better than a 2080 Super and still end up cheaper on the PC side!
And yes, that mock build PC equivalent accounted for the CPU (3700 X), GPU (2080 Super), RAM (16 GB), SSD (1 TB 8 GB/s), OS (Windows 11 Professional), PSU (650 watts...could prob go a bit higher but wouldn't be more than an extra $10), fan/cooling, case, DualSense controller, AND motherboard.
Even in a case where I could upgrade a few more things like the CPU, GPU or system RAM slightly and it maybe bumps the price up to $950, that's only a $30 premium over a PS5 + 7 years of PS+ Essentials, in return for (in this scenario) all PS games on PC Day 1, all Microsoft games on PC Day 1, tons of emulator options, Steam, EGS, GOG, web games (hey some are kinda fun; Alien Homonid and Fancy Pants Adventure started out as Newgrounds games), full web browsing, creative & business productivity software, multimedia apps & streaming, and more all in one box.
So yes, again, if you're saying you'd still buy a PlayStation even if all the 1P games went to PC Day 1, and assuming they ran well, then you either aren't thinking about the costs all the way, are trolling, or don't really use the console for much but might have a family member who does or whatever. Because to me, in a practical sense, there is no reason to get a PlayStation console in the case all exclusives were Day 1 on PC, unless the price difference was SIGNIFICANTLY in favor of the console (and with the example I just gave, it wouldn't be).
FWIW, I am not a PCMR dude at all; Steam fanboys are terrible and almost all PC gaming is controlled or dictated by Microsoft's terms with Windows & DirectX, which just plain sucks. I also realize PC is not really an "open platform" the way fans of the platform like to say, when any given core component can be described as being dominated by a single or two (at best) giant corporations and everything is dependent on a $3 trillion Big Tech conglomerate in that space. But I'm also not going to turn on blinders and deny the value PC would have over a PlayStation if Sony foolishly put all their games on that platform Day 1, because that's exactly how Microsoft devalued Xbox consoles, and you see where their sales are at today in the hardware space.
They would lose much more than that.they would lose a lot of console sales.
How dare you have such a sensible opinion!I just enjoy the console experience more, so it’s a no for me. Especially with me otherwise having no need for a PC at home given how strong mobile devices are these days.
No issues with whatever Sony wants to do with bringing games to PC. If PC Gamers want to pay $69.99 for day one releases for narrative driven single player games, then go ahead Sony, add to that ROI so we get more and better games.
I am starting to consider this for next gen, but I think mine would be Steam Deck 2(or Windows Handheld) + Nintendo, which is close enough to yours.PC + Nintendo for me from here on out, most likely.