Lets talk about Music, was it better back then?

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disappeared said:
If aliens ever visited this place, I'd have hoped it would have been that precise time. They would have scanned our broadcast channels, saw the halftime show, and 180'd the fuck out of our solar system.

LMAO at the thought of them reporting back to their home planet based on a half-time show.
 
TheLastCandle said:
I suppose you could make the argument that popular music these days is really, really bad compared to how it was in the past.
No. It's not. Having grown into music appreciation in the '90s, as opposed to passively listening in the '80s, I can tell you that pop music of that decade could have melted your eardrums just as badly as pop music today. It's been like that all along.


What is interesting, though, is going to a club or listening to a radio show where they dig up completely forgotten music from decades past. It's like finding yourself in another time and place, listening to what may feel like odd, discarded prototypes of the music you're familiar with. Not bad music, per se, but familiar in a slightly unsettling but enjoyable way. Music people sometime/somewhere once danced or simply listened to, but faded into oblivion.
 
Cuban Legend said:
Read the title as "Lets talk about MUSE, was it better back then?"

Why yes sir, yes they were.

Their latest album aint that great, same with Radiohead's, im sure they'll make a good one again.

deeeerrraaaaaaaail!
 
I can only speak for Hip Hop and despite being an old fuck I have to say no it wasn't better 'back then'. If you know where to look (thanks to the internet it has become quite easy) and the fact that everyone with no money can now make great sounding beats and record clean sounding tapes there is so much awesome music to discover it's simply amazing.

Take someone like Quest for instance. Dude has an impeccable flow, is charismatic as fuck, touches a lot of interesting subject and already has released what would've been considered classics 'back then', and you didn't even have to pay for it.

Or take Foreign Exchange for instance, American underground MC that has sold like 5 records and some unknown producer from the Netherlands work together and release one of the greatest albums in the last decade without ever meeting face to face. Things like that would've been unthinkable 15 years ago.
 
viciouskillersquirrel said:
To be fair, I do think "Kokomo" is a decent song. I put that bit in as a bit of a joke since I don't think there are that many popular bands whose entire output I openly despise (apart from Creed or The Vengaboys).

Indeed, I even like a bit of ABBA. Waterloo and Fernando are incredible songs, though some of their others, like say "Knowing Me, Knowing You" or "Ring Ring" are incredibly annoying. I put The Beach Boys in as an example of largely annoying bubblegum teen pop from that era.

This post is an epic troll of Beach Boys fans.
 
viciouskillersquirrel said:
I put The Beach Boys in as an example of largely annoying bubblegum teen pop from that era.
You clearly have missed a significant portion of their discography.

And to answer the OP-- no.
 
If we aren't talking about art music, these people are idiots. I'm so elitist and am more likely to favor "tradition," but there wasn't tradition before the Internet/digital leveling. There was just a limited lineage. Was blues rock better with Led Zeppelin and rockabilly better in the 1950s? Well, yeah, but 1/8 of all artists did that sort of music. There's an absurd amount of diversity these days, and I don't see any argument that puts the 00s behind any previous decade for "popular music." I would take the 00s over 1940-1995 combined.

Also, actually listening to the music of previous decades demonstrates that a lot of famous bands had 1 good song. Not everyone was The 4 Tops.
 
Let's see...
Funk rom back then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTVH41QucDU

Rock from back then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhCSO8fz9jQ

Metal from back then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69DwrXkjgw

Crazy stuff from back then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL_DxT2UOyo&feature=related

Music that was more heartfelt, mostly less pretentious or at least way more adventurous and energetic was much more appreciated by the masses, I think. The general attitude towards music or even making musik was so different...Oh, there are still a bunch of good bands around but it's hard to learn about them if they aren't presented by the media at all. I'm talking about all those crazy fusion/prog bands, for example. Those that play on modern jazz festivals and things like that. I have yet to hear a good rock band from 2000 and on...
 
There's a huge difference between popular music then and now: no one listens to music anymore. Everyone only listens to the singing and lyrics nowadays. This is the biggest reason why popular music today sucks.
 
viciouskillersquirrel said:
To be fair, I do think "Kokomo" is a decent song. I put that bit in as a bit of a joke since I don't think there are that many popular bands whose entire output I openly despise (apart from Creed or The Vengaboys).

Indeed, I even like a bit of ABBA. Waterloo and Fernando are incredible songs, though some of their others, like say "Knowing Me, Knowing You" or "Ring Ring" are incredibly annoying. I put The Beach Boys in as an example of largely annoying bubblegum teen pop from that era.

...

YOU BRING UP FUCKING KOKOMO?

Here's your homework, because your tastes obviously need improvement: Pet Sounds, Sunflower, Surf's Up. Their discography is a bit patchy but those three albums (Pet Sounds especially) are brilliant

__

as for the rest of the topic, I like music from every era, but I do think that mainstream music was better in the past. And the 80s are probably my favorite decade for music
 
*blasts dubstep , plays call of duty and takes rips from his bong.

Dubstep with great headphone FTW

Mindblowing taking a bong rip to it. complete mindblowing.
 
Stabbie said:
There's a huge difference between popular music then and now: no one listens to music anymore. Everyone only listens to the singing and lyrics nowadays. This is the biggest reason why popular music today sucks.

I doubt the majority of people who listen to music these days honestly care about the lyrics in songs. Do you think songs from artists like Kesha and Far East Movement are popular because of their lyrical content? It is all about beat and hooks to draw the listener in these days.
 
Fina1e said:
I doubt the majority of people who listen to music these days honestly care about the lyrics in songs. Do you think songs from artists like Kesha and Far East Movement are popular because of their lyrical content? It is all about beat and hooks to draw the listener in these days.

R&B is an exception, still I have noticed everyone talking about music only talks about singers. Every time I try to talk about music with someone this shit comes up.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
80s was most absurdly unselfconscious, earnest, dramatic decade. Not good, but definitely an amazing snapshot of innocence. And the invention of the video and the ludicrous experiments in po-faced melodrama can never be repeated.


I will always love the 1980s for this very reason. A decade without subtle irony: the more in-your-face, the better. Take this French and Saunders Pet Shop Boys spoof: it's silly and over-the-top, yet it could almost pass as an actual 80s music video. It was often ridiculous and straight-up horrible, but it was always honest, and I do miss it.
 
i think music as a medium is amazing now. that sounds really wishy washy but what i mean is that thanks to the internet, it's just so easy to access music that's to your taste, explore groups and genres, there's so much diversity in what's out there from the big bands to basement guys who would never be able to put stuff out without it, and loads of amazing tools to find new and interesting stuff online. in terms of quality of what's being released (i don't care about chart music and what's popular) which i guess this thread is about then maybe the 90s or 60s are my favourite decades, but this period is still pretty good. but mostly i don't really care there's more great music already out there than i have time to listen to, for example right now i'm into spiritualized, i found out about them from last fm recommendations and just using spotify i can listen to all their albums for free, listen to live recordings on youtube, read about their history, then decide to buy the best albums to put them on my ipod and move onto related groups to them. that matters more to me than whether bieber has less soul than what was on the radio in the seventies or whatever.

also, smh at the beach boys hate. i didn't even know that was possible, let alone thinking kokomo is their best.
 
ITT: I learn that Beach Boys fans are a frightening, passionate bunch. Here's a news flash: I find their sound annoying and their entire public image as well as the subject matter they tackled to be too Leave it to Beaver for my tastes.

I also hated Shadow of the Collossus, Uncharted and think Frank Herbert should have done what George Lucas is good at (done a basic outline and let someone more competent do the actual writing). Also the Rifftrax crew's attempt at humour allows you to bring those loud, annoying, unfunny douchebags who talk and ruin every cinema experience into your home! Isn't that wonderful?

Opinions!
 
viciouskillersquirrel said:
The same period of time that brought us Roy Orbison, The Kinks, The Beatles, Simon & Garfunkel and The Rolling Stones and also brought us such hits as "Big Girls Don't Cry", "Monster Mash", "Please Mr. Postman", "Walk Like a Man" and everything the Beach Boys ever did.

So no.


that is such a small sample compared to all the absolute classic stuff and genius work that was created that it's not even worth mentioning.
sure, there was bad music back then too but all you have to do is look at the super bowl half time show last night to see the current state of music. yes, I'd say there was better music being produced back then ("then" being say the mid 60s to early 80s?) but as with everything, time changes things.
 
viciouskillersquirrel said:
ITT: I learn that Beach Boys fans are a frightening, passionate bunch. Here's a news flash: I find their sound annoying and their entire public image as well as the subject matter they tackled to be too Leave it to Beaver for my tastes.

Opinions!

you have a myopic view of the beach boys because you've only ever listened to their early "gee shucks, cars, girls & soda pop" phase. if you took the advice offered and listened to some of their albums (especially pet sounds), you would understand how this statement is inaccurate. if you still didn't find their music to your liking, your opinion would be respected. as it stands now, it's ignorance and not an actual opinion. this is equivalent to only having heard the beatles' first two albums and declaring "sorry but I don't like cover bands."
 
Put it this way..

How can this even be a discussion?

I mean.. Seriously... For example in the 90s, we had guys like Michael Jackson, Nirvana, Aerosmith, Guns and Roses, Live.. Today WTF do we have? Justin Bieber? Britney?

Off the top of my head the only artists right now worth anything would be Pink and Evanecense. Everything else is *ugh*
 
SolKane said:
you have a myopic view of the beach boys because you've only ever listened to their early "gee shucks, cars, girls & soda pop" phase. if you took the advice offered and listened to some of their albums (especially pet sounds), you would understand how this statement is inaccurate. if you still didn't find their music to your liking, your opinion would be respected. as it stands now, it's ignorance and not an actual opinion. this is equivalent to only having heard the beatles' first two albums and declaring "sorry but I don't like cover bands."
So basically what you're saying is that the music that made The Beach Boys famous is shitty Americana-at-the-beach pop?

There's an equivalent perception for the BeeGees. They're famous for their disco era. The fact is that the Gibbs brothers are fantastic musicians an some of their best output was in songs they wrote for others.
 
Timber said:
Ya.

Love You is great as well.

Nice, I'm trying to go through their discography and I'll check this out. I also hear good things about Today!

you have a myopic view of the beach boys because you've only ever listened to their early "gee shucks, cars, girls & soda pop" phase. if you took the advice offered and listened to some of their albums (especially pet sounds), you would understand how this statement is inaccurate. if you still didn't find their music to your liking, your opinion would be respected. as it stands now, it's ignorance and not an actual opinion. this is equivalent to only having heard the beatles' first two albums and declaring "sorry but I don't like cover bands."

on the money right here

Off the top of my head the only artists right now worth anything would be Pink and Evanecense. Everything else is *ugh*

I had a hearty laugh, thanks!
 
Cuban Legend said:
Read the title as "Lets talk about MUSE, was it better back then?"

Why yes sir, yes they were.

Yah while most people i know have given up on them at this point i'm hoping they will redeem themselves. There newest Twilight single is like...New Born for preteen girls.
 
The problem is simple, their are more singers/rappers than their are fans nowadays. The market is over saturated with copy cats and marginal singers. Back in those days, the cream did rise to the top, looks were important but not more important than the talent.

Who fits this bill:

Strong song writer, below average singer, but had phenomenal success? from an era gone by.
 
Modern radio is a cesspool of talentless imitators because the record companies are losing control.

Thankfully there's people out there making real music. They occasionally get on the radio, too.
 
Music was clearly better "back then." And, more importantly, it was fresh. People were constantly finding new avenues, perspectives and dimensions to music. But nothing lasts forever. A fire will die down eventually and that eventually happened to be around when I was a kid. It doesn't help that my generation was a generation of nothingness. We don't have a motto. We don't have a vision. We like our products and our toys and that's about it. Of course music from such a generation is going to be unsatisfying and uninvolved. We're not an involved, interesting, passionate people anymore. Our modern music portrays us, and not in a good light.

And that's a lot of the reason why music these days is...at least to me...really boring. Even the "good stuff" is just dull. It's because I heard it all before and I heard it better and back when that sound actually mattered and meant something to a generation of people, to a movement of music or culture or to a country/world/people. You can call back to jazz and funk, hip-hop and rock all you want, but you're missing half of the story by just recreating the sound. All those genres MEANT SOMETHING. They just weren't music theory. You'll never be able to replicate Curtis Mayfield, John Coltrane, Zappa, Bach, Miles Davis or AcDc (etc etc and etc) because they represented something greater than well played notes AND they made better music than your shitty imitation. It's a double whammy.

The best example of what I'm talking about is that music, like the fashion industry, has been in "retro mode" for 20 years. Constantly harking back to the 50's, 60's, 70's, or 80's for no real reason but to harken back to those days. But those days were more than just a particular sound and a particular style. That's just not genuine at all. The bands that arose during those generations blossomed for a reason! The Beatles weren't just a boy-band with lots of hits. They were far far more and that "thing" can not be imitated I don't care how hard the indy-scene tries. Instead of making a new age of thought and sound, we can't but help to try to imitate what is not imitatable.

If you can't beat em, join em? I dunno. So instead a band just takes sound 1 from the past and sound 2 from the past and calls it "their sound". It isn't. It's pointless too. Why combine ska with classical other than to desperately try to be different? What does that mean? Are you just effing around with no real purpose?
 
There's such a wide variety of music and styles these days... and so many people getting exposure thanks to the Internet... I listen to so many genres these days... still loving stuff like Bernard Hermann's soundtracks to North by Northwest and Mysterious Island to Japanese Rock/Pop (Luna Sea, Halko Momoi) to European pop/funk (Mika, Dax Riders and their cover of "I was made for Lovin' You") to Mexican synth/rock (Aleks Syntek, Kinky) to Symphonic Metal (Nightwish) to Surf Guitar/Rock.

Living in the SF Bay Area, I've seen bands play here from around the globe. I watch a club on Saturday mornings in Akihabara playing anime/game/chiptune/house/mashups/etc. and listen now and then to Frequence3 in Paris to hear great music that's popular in Europe.

It's a great time right now as you get the best of all genres to choose from and you can still go see a great number of old and new bands perform live, every Sunday in HD on HDNet, on DVD/Blu-ray and online. I don't think in the past we've ever had such opportunities to have access to so much music. I love it!
 
Mr. B Natural said:
Music was clearly better "back then." And, more importantly, it was fresh. People were constantly finding new avenues, perspectives and dimensions to music. But nothing lasts forever. A fire will die down eventually and that eventually happened to be around when I was a kid. It doesn't help that my generation was a generation of nothingness. We don't have a motto. We don't have a vision. We like our products and our toys and that's about it. Of course music from such a generation is going to be unsatisfying and uninvolved. We're not an involved, interesting, passionate people anymore. Our modern music portrays us, and not in a good light.

And that's a lot of the reason why music these days is...at least to me...really boring. Even the "good stuff" is just dull. It's because I heard it all before and I heard it better and back when that sound actually mattered and meant something to a generation of people, to a movement of music or culture or to a country/world/people. You can call back to jazz and funk, hip-hop and rock all you want, but you're missing half of the story by just recreating the sound. All those genres MEANT SOMETHING. They just weren't music theory. You'll never be able to replicate Curtis Mayfield, John Coltrane, Zappa, Bach, Miles Davis or AcDc (etc etc and etc) because they represented something greater than well played notes AND they made better music than your shitty imitation. It's a double whammy.

The best example of what I'm talking about is that music, like the fashion industry, has been in "retro mode" for 20 years. Constantly harking back to the 50's, 60's, 70's, or 80's for no real reason but to harken back to those days. But those days were more than just a particular sound and a particular style. That's just not genuine at all. The bands that arose during those generations blossomed for a reason! The Beatles weren't just a boy-band with lots of hits. They were far far more and that "thing" can not be imitated I don't care how hard the indy-scene tries. Instead of making a new age of thought and sound, we can't but help to try to imitate what is not imitatable.

If you can't beat em, join em? I dunno. So instead a band just takes sound 1 and sound 2 and calls it fresh. It isn't. It's pointless too. Why combine ska with classical other than to desperately try to be different? What does that mean? Are you just effing around with no real purpose?

I think this is extraordinarily ill-informed, but what did Frank Zappa, Miles Davis, and AC/DC "mean?"
 
GhaleonQ said:
I think this is extraordinarily ill-informed, but what did Frank Zappa, Miles Davis, and AC/DC "mean?"
You do realize there are books that will answer that question for you, right? You do know you can read hundreds of books on music movements and what they represent, right? There are probably hundreds of things written about miles davis alone. You do know that calling me ill-informed then tasking me music appreciation 101 question makes you sound awful, right?

And I already vaguely answered your question in the post you quoted - they represented their generation, their world, their people, their strife and did so in a way that was personal. You can harken back to the 60's with a new style but you'll never ever get that back. The 60's are over. The strife of the people of the 60's and what they felt and what they did is over.
 
The weirdest thing about this "music was better back then" thing is that the dates keep changing.

When I was a little kid everyone would talk about the 50's as being the "golden era". As I became a teenager it was the 60's. When I started getting into indie/punk/alternative music in the 90s it was all about England in 77 and the US hardcore scene in the 80's.

Now people are pining for the 80's and 90's

How many times does this have to happen before you realize that nothing ever changes EVER.

Music and art and literature are all awesome now. I never stop being amazed at how beautiful and amazing this stuff still is.
 
Mr. B Natural said:
You do realize there are books that will answer that question for you, right? You do know you can read hundreds of books on music movements and what they represent, right? There are probably hundreds of things written about miles davis alone. You do know that calling me ill-informed then tasking me music appreciation 101 question makes you sound awful, right?

And I already vaguely answered your question in the post you quoted - they represented their generation, their world, their people, their strife and did so in a way that was personal. You can harken back to the 60's with a new style but you'll never ever get that back. The 60's are over. The strife of the people of the 60's and what they felt and what they did is over.

I've just never heard A person use AC/DC as representative of anything. In fact, there's the go-to good band for stupid, mindless rock music that anyone could do and that has no innovation or context whatsoever (Nickleback being the go-to bad one).

Also, don't drop the elitist card on me when you put Bach and Zappa that close to each other in an evaluation.
 
GhaleonQ said:
I've just never heard A person use AC/DC as representative of anything. In fact, there's the go-to good band for stupid, mindless rock music that anyone could do (Nickleback being the go-to bad one).

Also, don't drop the elitist card on me when you put Bach and Zappa that close to each other in an evaluation.


Yea, it's ridiculous. It's this onion article OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/90s-punk-decries-punks-of-today,1486/
 
Vestal said:
Put it this way..

How can this even be a discussion?

I mean.. Seriously... For example in the 90s, we had guys like Michael Jackson, Nirvana, Aerosmith, Guns and Roses, Live..
Michael Jackson peaked in the early '80s, and Aerosmith and G'n'R really made their mark on the borderline of the '80s.

Nirvana? Hell yes. Live? Ugh, no.

Today WTF do we have? Justin Bieber? Britney?
In case you forgot, the '90s had Britney, too. Plus a million boy bands even worse than Bieber. It was an awful, awful trend.

Off the top of my head the only artists right now worth anything would be Pink and Evanecense. Everything else is *ugh*
What? I don't even.
 
Electronic music was better before the proliferation of easy-to-use digital music creation software and netlabels, IMO. There's still a lot of good stuff out there, but there's a lot more crap to sort through.
 
Mr. B Natural said:
Music was clearly better "back then." And, more importantly, it was fresh. People were constantly finding new avenues, perspectives and dimensions to music. But nothing lasts forever. A fire will die down eventually and that eventually happened to be around when I was a kid. It doesn't help that my generation was a generation of nothingness. We don't have a motto. We don't have a vision. We like our products and our toys and that's about it. Of course music from such a generation is going to be unsatisfying and uninvolved. We're not an involved, interesting, passionate people anymore. Our modern music portrays us, and not in a good light.

And that's a lot of the reason why music these days is...at least to me...really boring. Even the "good stuff" is just dull. It's because I heard it all before and I heard it better and back when that sound actually mattered and meant something to a generation of people, to a movement of music or culture or to a country/world/people. You can call back to jazz and funk, hip-hop and rock all you want, but you're missing half of the story by just recreating the sound. All those genres MEANT SOMETHING. They just weren't music theory. You'll never be able to replicate Curtis Mayfield, John Coltrane, Zappa, Bach, Miles Davis or AcDc (etc etc and etc) because they represented something greater than well played notes AND they made better music than your shitty imitation. It's a double whammy.

The best example of what I'm talking about is that music, like the fashion industry, has been in "retro mode" for 20 years. Constantly harking back to the 50's, 60's, 70's, or 80's for no real reason but to harken back to those days. But those days were more than just a particular sound and a particular style. That's just not genuine at all. The bands that arose during those generations blossomed for a reason! The Beatles weren't just a boy-band with lots of hits. They were far far more and that "thing" can not be imitated I don't care how hard the indy-scene tries. Instead of making a new age of thought and sound, we can't but help to try to imitate what is not imitatable.

If you can't beat em, join em? I dunno. So instead a band just takes sound 1 from the past and sound 2 from the past and calls it "their sound". It isn't. It's pointless too. Why combine ska with classical other than to desperately try to be different? What does that mean? Are you just effing around with no real purpose?
You have no idea what you're talking about. Your understanding of music is just as limited as the person who says old art is better than modern. You're telling me that music is no longer capable to grow, that all the ideas are used up, imitating a conservative view of art. Yet, our generation has perhaps produced some of the most emotional music of all time. There are still genres being created, subgenres emerging in the dank corners of internet forums or disgusting party houses, talent bursting all over the scenes, and you want to say that it is just old music being played better.

Look at Bob Dylan to Conor Oberst. There are simply things Conor has put out that Dylan couldn't imagine, it's impossible to say that Conor couldn't do things Dylan didn't; you can't look at music like that! Conor has obvious roots in listening to Dylan but his style is so much his own -- borderline lyrical genius of up until now.

Nick Drake to John Butler - creative and inventive acoustic guitar gods and Butler has a style so unique, there is simply nothing like watching him play Ocean live, or simply just closing your eyes to it. It's so personal, and you want to say music was better then. Why? Because music today isn't against the man as it was back then? Rappers are still against the man, mainstream music is still against the man. People want to praise the old guys and then call the modern artists talentless hacks despite carrying on the same spirit those guys did. Whether or not Lady Gaga is enjoyable to your ears, you can't say she is untalented, especially compared to the oldies. You think anyone back then would have done what she's doing now?

Please.
 
gluv65 said:
The problem is simple, their are more singers/rappers than their are fans nowadays. The market is over saturated with copy cats and marginal singers. Back in those days, the cream did rise to the top, looks were important but not more important than the talent.

Who fits this bill:

Strong song writer, below average singer, but had phenomenal success? from an era gone by.
Bob Dylan
 
I came home today and listened to Burial's "Untrue" for the millionth time. No album from 30 years ago could put me in such a dark place. There is definitely more variety in music today, and because of that I think that it's a better time for music. Music is always evolving.

Popular music (well, most) really blows today though. That's a trend that will continue for a long time. It's not even that big of a deal to me. As long as there is still music coming out that I enjoy, I'm a happy man.
 
gluv65 said:
The problem is simple, their are more singers/rappers than their are fans nowadays. The market is over saturated with copy cats and marginal singers. Back in those days, the cream did rise to the top, looks were important but not more important than the talent.

Who fits this bill:

Strong song writer, below average singer, but had phenomenal success? from an era gone by.
Conor Oberst.
Samuel Beam - Iron and Wine.
Tomas Kalnoky - Streetlight Manifesto
Christopher George Latore Wallace - Notorious B.I.G.

uh.. should we continue?
 
AvidNobody said:
I came home today and listened to Burial's "Untrue" for the millionth time. No album from 30 years ago could put me in such a dark place. There is definitely more variety in music today, and because of that I think that it's a better time for music. Music is always evolving.

Popular music (well, most) really blows today though. That's a trend that will continue for a long time. It's not even that big of a deal to me. As long as there is still music coming out that I enjoy, I'm a happy man.

Dark, melodic and rhythmic electronic music was certainly around 30 years ago though... Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express or Cybotron - Clear anyone?

Not trying to argue with you just nitpicking :P Though I agree, music variety is at its greatest nowadays, even if there hasn't been much in the way of new genres like in the 90's.
 
djtiesto said:
Dark, melodic and rhythmic electronic music was certainly around 30 years ago though... Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express or Cybotron - Clear anyone?

Not trying to argue with you just nitpicking :P Though I agree, music variety is at its greatest nowadays, even if there hasn't been much in the way of new genres like in the 90's.
Don't forget David Bowie's Berlin era. ;D Low and Heroes, especially! Also variety is a given. People have access to almost all the old music and the new stuff...So while I think it's much harder to find good music from today I'm glad I live in this day and age.
 
I guess I don't take issue with the fact that there's a ton of music I don't care for, because that's purely opinion. I take more issue with the fact that pop radio pays for the broadcast rights to only a dozen or two songs at a time and regurgitates them ad nauseum instead of mixing it up. They play only the one or two singles instead of bits from the whole album. I think Cee-Lo Green's "Fuck You' is a masterpiece of pop music satire, and just damn fun to listen to. But I've heard the damn song over and over again, from radio to ads to ZOMG GWYNETH PALTROW ON GLEEEEEEEE. Just like I've heard "Sweet Child of Mine," "Don't Stop Believin'," "Sweet Home Alabama," and "Crazy Train" so much on classic rock stations and at every fucking high school dance I've been to that I can't stand to hear em anymore. It's media overload. But I suppose that's more a problem with radio itself as a medium.

I will say one thing however: mainstream hip-hop/rap was WAY better in the 90's/early 00's as far as lyricism is concerned.

Also, I'm sure a number of people could construct a convincing case for why the SB halftime show was objectively bad, but honestly, when has there ever been a GOOD/not terrible halftime show in recent memory? Granted my memory is fuzzy beyond the Janet Jackson incident.
 
Pop music in the 60s was pretty darn derivative, just like how it is nowadays. To illustrate my point, I chose one 60s pop artist at random from my music collection: Linda Scott.

Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #01] I've Told Ev'ry Little Star
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #02] Don't Bet Money Honey
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #03] Starlight, Starbright
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #04] I Don't Know Why
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #05] It's All Because
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #06] Little Star
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #07] A Thousand Stars
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #08] You Are My Lucky Star
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #09] When You Wish Upon a Star
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #10] Blue Star
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #11] Stardust
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #12] Stars Fell Over Alabama
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #13] Count Every Star
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #14] Three Guesses
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #15] Yessiree
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #16] Town Crier
Linda Scott - [The Complete Hits of Linda Scott #17] Bermuda


Even if you did not know the name of the artist, you could conclude from this list that the artist was either a part time astronomer or a 60s pop star because of the obsession with stars.
 
I think the real problem is as people get older they tend to get more jaded. Not everyone, but a vast majority. It seems to me that many latch on to nostalgic memories attached to an era, and never let go. That goes for clothing and slang and basically anything that changes with the times, including music. I swear I can see when some people just "stopped" and never moved past an era in their lives. I think we all can. With that said, music is just as great and creative as it's always been. Sure genres go through peaks and valleys but there is always something great out there if you simply look.


Anyway, I came in here to post something I heard in an interview on the radio. I happened to tune in just in time to catch the end. I don't even know who the musician was. All I know is that he was older man and well respected by many. I think he was releasing an album soon and collaborated with the likes of Radiohead and Muse etc. etc. But that's beside the point.. The final question the interviewer asked was something like "What's your secret on staying so cool and so relevant all these years?"

His answer was simple, yet so perfect.

"Stay Interested"



Truer words have never been spoken. STAY INTERESTED. Don't turn yourself off to the world and be so damn jaded! Try new things, and keep an open mind always!! The world doesn't stop reinventing itself and creating great things. It's YOU!!!! Don't be THAT person!! :O
 
I don't like to condescend to the Golden Oldies crowd, because I fully understand that they often no longer have that youthful drive and passion to seek out new music. But when they use that same kind of passion to long-windedly decry the music they don't even bother to listen to, then old man you ignorant, and I smh just smh.
 
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