Messofanego
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Thumb claw? lmao
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Let's Talk About X(-23): So, you want to know more about LOGAN's little murder girl..
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Thumb claw? lmao
Funny part is they started off as gloves(like Wolverine's original origin) then he got the real thing
Yeah, I was a Runaways fan and also had an appreciation for Avengers Academy too. So seeing all of these characters dumped into a story designed to be a place where characters form cancelled series go to die was disheartening. I didn't even bother with it. How did it end? What happened to Chase and Nico?
OrangeAtlas
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Thanks for the lesson, I can definitely understand how some people may not appreciate their favorite characters being slaughtered one by one.
At least the Runaways made it all out in one piece.
This is what kept me from NYX as a kid and I've never quite gotten over that first impression of the comic version. (I got into superhero comics watching X-Men: Evolution.)
AbsolutBro
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NYX, along with Runaways, was one of the first series I picked up when I got back into reading comics. Love them both immensely, even if NYX feels like it was cut short even at 7 issues. For only a handful of main characters, it was pretty diverse as well, which was great. I'm sad they didn't do more with Kiden, whose power I found fascinating. Ah well.
X-23/Laura is one of my current favorite characters, and one of the few whose story I have read from the beginning (even catching her in X-Men Evolution, but not Wolverine and the X-Men). I am super pumped to see Logan because of her, even if Jackman wasn't basically the perfect Wolverine.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Wait till you see Frank Miller's inevitable revamp of Kamala Khan.
BKatastrophe
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Niiiiiiiiiiiiice.
Just to reinforce: Kyle and Yost X-Force is pretty awesome. Highly recommend.
Goddamn you Quesada! And then everyone ignored it except for Liu.
Just to reinforce: Kyle and Yost X-Force is pretty awesome. Highly recommend.
Yeah that shit was stupid. X-23 becoming a prostitute didn't make sense to me. I recently read a bunch of her stuff through the X-23: Complete Collection Vol. 1 and NYX Complete Collection, and given where NYX is supposed to fit in the timeline, it doesn't make sense (though knowing it comes first makes more sense). She already had been going to high school for a (very short) period of time with her cousin, and she'd found Wolverine who told her to go to the school. Later she ends up in NYC and becomes a weird hooker?
Goddamn you Quesada! And then everyone ignored it except for Liu.
Yeah I did really like that aspect of it.
Oh cool, I didn't know she started out as a children's cartoon character! How did they bring her into th-
Fucking comics.
You rather he was named Snap Wilson?
Spike Spiegel
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Yes, though it's mostly kept to All-New X-Men.Sgt. Kabukiman said:
Chase became Darkhawk after getting his hands on the amulet, but gave it back at the end of the story.
Nico lost an arm and was killed. BUT, her staff resurrected her and gave her a new arm with magic powers.
There was a follow-up to Arena called Avengers Undercover in which the survivors banded together to infiltrate the Masters of Evil and kill Arcade in revenge. X-23 wasn't in it though, so my interest pretty much stopped once she was free and clear.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I always forget than X-23 was actually introduced in X-Men Evolution. I think she cropped up right around the time I stopped watching the show regularly. The majority of my exposure to her is from the 2007 series, Marvel vs Capcom 3, and All New Wolverine. She's actually a good character. Wasn't a big fan of her at first 'cause the premise of a female teen angst driven Wolverine is pretty groan-worthy, but she's grown on me over the years. I really like how writers have expanded on her motivations, especially more recently.
BKatastrophe
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Remember when X-23 wrecked Lady Deathstrike? Pretty great.
NipplesAndToes23
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Hey, you stole my term. I say little murder girl.
She was a former isis terroist raised under abusive and ultra-conservative parents. Who later escaped her life thanks to USAgent, pure american.
Cyborg
Durrzerker
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When's the dick claw though
What bone would you affix the claw to? C'mon man, use your science.
Durrzerker
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George Oscar Bluth II
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Nose clawNo dumber than Daken's under-wrist claw. I'm guessing knee claws are next.
BKatastrophe
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I actually quite like the under wrist claw.No dumber than Daken's under-wrist claw. I'm guessing knee claws are next.
You mean like this?
If so, then you may be a chimera.
Duane Cunningham
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Awesome, but man. Sometimes Ramos is great, but other times he gets rushed or something and it all goes bad.
Gabby is a really good character that I hope sticks around.
BKatastrophe
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A lot of the more stylized artists are like that, sadly. Madureira, Stegman, Bachalo, etc. Just the downside of that style.
She needs to show up in a book without Laura before that can be said. Right now she feels like she exists to be more upbeat in contrast and to be a sort of conscience to Laura. I need to see her in a book without where she isn't just that. Just take all the young female characters and stick them in a book: Moon Girl, Nadia Pym, Ms. Marvel, Naja, and Gabby. I'd roll with that.
That's not to say I don't like Gabby. I do, and she's great, but she needs to spend some time outside.
You forgot the fact that when Squirrel Girl appeared in Wolverine, they made a team up theme song !
http://unbeatablesquirrelgirl.tumbl...you-know-that-squirrel-girl-is-guest-starring
http://unbeatablesquirrelgirl.tumbl...you-know-that-squirrel-girl-is-guest-starring
Each of the sisters represent a different aspect of Laura's personality with Gabby representing the innocence that was taken away from her and represents who should could have been if not for the stuff in the OP.
I remember watching her debut and her second appearance on that show and loving the character. Little did I know...
Excellent OP, looks like I have some catching up to do!
Side note: I mained X-23 / Deadpool / Shuma in UMvC3 before I dropped it. If I were to play again, X-23 would for sure be on the team again.
Excellent OP, looks like I have some catching up to do!
Side note: I mained X-23 / Deadpool / Shuma in UMvC3 before I dropped it. If I were to play again, X-23 would for sure be on the team again.
BKatastrophe
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Right, but it doesn't change what I'm saying, and that is the fact that I can't agree on her being better than Laura until I see her somewhere that isn't with Laura.
I wasn't disagreeing with you. Personally I want to see Gabby end up in a school book once Taylor is done with her.
When she was actually introduced in the comics wasn't her original profession a bit more warped than prostitution, namely those who came to her knew that she had a special talent....basically they were into the whole slice and dice thing. Mainly on themselves, not fatally, some cutting fetishist.
As for Gabby, she really seems to be the Laura from the new Logan movie to me. Probably how she came about in a way.
As for Gabby, she really seems to be the Laura from the new Logan movie to me. Probably how she came about in a way.
No dumber than Daken's under-wrist claw. I'm guessing knee claws are next.
Assassin's Creed: Mutation.
BKatastrophe
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I'd be just as thrilled. Stick her with the other weird Xavier students that don't fit. Gabby is a clone of test tube baby that was a partial clone (closer to a daughter). You also have characters like Broo (special, one in a maillion type of Brood), Kid Gladiator (Gladiator's son), Warlock (technoorganic mutant from another planet), Kid Apocalypse (test tube baby reincarnation of En Sabah Nur). Maybe that monk kid from Old Man Logan. I'm sure there's a couple others. Like a misfit class, basically.
Vic_Viper
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What issue/run is this from?
I know i own that issue but cant remember which it was from.
Also how is Avengers Arena? Do I need to read anything before it? Ive been interested in checking it out since its basically Battle Royal. Need to check and see if its up on MU
You can just jump into Avengers Arena, though you likely won't have as much attachment to the characters if you haven't read Runaways and Avengers Academy. It's on MU for sure.
BKatastrophe
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It's from one of the New X-Men issues of Messiah CompleX, which I believe was being written by Craig Kyle and Chris Yost at the time which lead into their run on X-Force with X-23, Wolfsbane, Warpath, and Wolverine.
Durrzerker
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I really like the all-new Wolverine book but my only problem with it is that Tom Taylor cannot write villains
As evidence by how completely he messed up Taskmasters personality, habits, and looks (though that might be on the artist)
But Alchemax were morons, the oneoffs were mindless threats, and Kimura has always been one dimensional
Good series though and Gabby is love
As evidence by how completely he messed up Taskmasters personality, habits, and looks (though that might be on the artist)
But Alchemax were morons, the oneoffs were mindless threats, and Kimura has always been one dimensional
Good series though and Gabby is love
BKatastrophe
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Durrzerker
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Indeed...
Ye boy
I am very very critical of Taskmaster's portrayals
But even if I wasn't, ANW's was the worst in a very long time
He doesn't like taking jobs against mutants (or their clones), wouldnt shoot an obvious child (Gabby), avoids anything related to the Wolverine name like the plague, inexplicably wasn't even trying in their fight, and didn't just disengage, all for a single moment of 'lol foot claw'
No issues with Task losing fights, just part of the deal when you like villains, but he was just completely out of character, weirdly serious and depressed, and completely unprofessional not even checking if they were breathing before confirming a kill
They didn't even get his hair and eye color right, they just made him look like his daughter
Aaaa this will bug me forever
On a more positive note god bless this run for portraying Laura as cool headed, focused, and mature. So much better than the teen angst of All New XMen
He has a daughter?
BKatastrophe
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Durrzerker
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His daughter is Finesse, Jeanne Foucault. Laura woulda recognized if it was her since they were mates in Avengers Academy
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