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All of you people still in your 20s depress me.
I messed up my 20s so badly.
Man do I ever wish I could do them over.
 
All of you people still in your 20s depress me.
I messed up my 20s so badly.
Man do I ever wish I could do them over.
Well, everybody makes mistakes and has bad decisions in their 20s. You're not alone.
Now, you've just gotta focus on making good future decisions and stop worrying about the past.
 
Well, everybody makes mistakes and has bad decisions in their 20s. You're not alone.
Now, you've just gotta focus on making good future decisions and stop worrying about the past.

I mean, I know that...

But I just feel like I was in such a good position, and has so many chances and opportunities and possibilities and ways I could have made things better than they were...
And I messed every single one of them up.
I literally made the wrong decision at every single major life point during that time.


I had an emotional breakdown the other day over things.
My wife didn't even care.
Or, well, she did care - she yelled at me a bunch for making such a big deal over thing.


I mean, I know everyone makes mistakes in life and wishes they could have done many things differently.
And I don't mean to minimize other people's experiences or sound insulting or anything like that, but...
I feel like it's one thing if you didn't really have that many options or possibilities or advantages.
Yeah, you may have made mistakes which led to you being in a worse position than you could have been...
But... and this is going to sound horrible, and I apologize, I really don't mean to sound rude or offensive... The difference really isn't that big.


But, seriously, I could have done and had just about anything I wanted through my 20s.
Instead, I'm a massively in debt loser who has wasted the past dozen years with nothing to show for it, in a horrible situation, with literally no way to get out of it, all these medical problems, and seriously, just fuck my life. Fuck it.

I'm sorry. I just have a whole bunch of bitterness.
And, you know, I called that suicide prevention hotline a few weeks ago, and, damn, they weren't any help at all. Literally useless.
Fuck everything.

I'm sorry for dumping all this out here. I did it in the Mental Health thread last time. So, I'm sorry to all of you. And I'm sorry for anything I said that was rude or insulting or inappropriate. I'm sorry.
I'm just so fucking done with even trying at anything anymore. Fuck my life.
 
I mean, I know that...

But I just feel like I was in such a good position, and has so many chances and opportunities and possibilities and ways I could have made things better than they were...
And I messed every single one of them up.
I literally made the wrong decision at every single major life point during that time.


I had an emotional breakdown the other day over things.
My wife didn't even care.
Or, well, she did care - she yelled at me a bunch for making such a big deal over thing.


I mean, I know everyone makes mistakes in life and wishes they could have done many things differently.
And I don't mean to minimize other people's experiences or sound insulting or anything like that, but...
I feel like it's one thing if you didn't really have that many options or possibilities or advantages.
Yeah, you may have made mistakes which led to you being in a worse position than you could have been...
But... and this is going to sound horrible, and I apologize, I really don't mean to sound rude or offensive... The difference really isn't that big.


But, seriously, I could have done and had just about anything I wanted through my 20s.
Instead, I'm a massively in debt loser who has wasted the past dozen years with nothing to show for it, in a horrible situation, with literally no way to get out of it, all these medical problems, and seriously, just fuck my life. Fuck it.

I'm sorry. I just have a whole bunch of bitterness.
And, you know, I called that suicide prevention hotline a few weeks ago, and, damn, they weren't any help at all. Literally useless.
Fuck everything.

I'm sorry for dumping all this out here. I did it in the Mental Health thread last time. So, I'm sorry to all of you. And I'm sorry for anything I said that was rude or insulting or inappropriate. I'm sorry.
I'm just so fucking done with even trying at anything anymore. Fuck my life.
Hey, I thought you were going back to school.
That's a path right there. Even if it is more debt, there is a way out. And there always will be. No matter what.

I know it sounds absolutely impossible right now but you must look forward.

And no, you weren't rude. I understand where you're coming from.
 
Vegi, had no idea you lived in the Midlands. Good to see more of us folk in here.

Well, Cheshire at the moment, but calling that the North doesn't feel quite right, you know? I still pay £3.50 for a pint. I grew up in the proper Midlands though.

I'm just so fucking done with even trying at anything anymore. Fuck my life.

I have no idea how to say anything remotely helpful, but I'm really sorry you feel like that man. I'd totally give you a hug but this is the internet.
 
Hey, I thought you were going back to school.
That's a path right there. Even if it is more debt, there is a way out. And there always will be. No matter what.

I know it sounds absolutely impossible right now but you must look forward.

And no, you weren't rude. I understand where you're coming from.

Yeah, I am. Or, well, I'm trying to. I made it through one term after a whole bunch of stress. The next term I fell way behind, and ended up withdrawing. Thankfully I'm getting them to let me re-take it with them covering the cost due to an issue where part of my disability plan wasn't met (never had a disability plan before, but goodness knows I have all sorts of issues now, so every little bit helps).


But, I mean, I feel like everything's actively working against me. Seriously, do you guys know what it's like to literally never get a second's peace? Just a few moments where you can actually close your eyes, relax, and then do something, without worrying about being yelled at, or having to do something, or trying to remember all the things you were supposed to be doing, or getting yelled at for things you didn't even know you were supposed to be doing?

Seriously, I just never feel like I have a moment's peace. Even when my wife's at work, she wanted to get a dog last year, so we have a year-old yellow lab. And, yeah, the thing's cute, but it's crazy and never leaves you alone. And even though we got her a crate a couple of weeks ago (finally) she'll just bark the entire time she's in there, and I'm convinced that eventually she's just going to chew right through the bars. Of course, by the time my wife gets home, she's gotten out most of her energy, so she doesn't feel like it's much of an issue. But, heck, I didn't want a dog, I'm happy with cats.

That's all kind of a tangent, though. The main thing is, I'm always doing things wrong. Seriously, she was trying to reorganize in the other room and was having some issues moving stuff. I went in, asked if she needed help. She says no. I go away. A bit later I hear she's still having issues. I ask if she needed help. She says no. Then she starts in on me about me saying I would clean the cat litter, and I hadn't. So I ask if she wants me to do that. She says no. I start to walk away. She starts yelling at me that I'm not doing anything. So I go back, ask if she wants me to clean the cat litter again. She tells me no again. At that point, I've pretty much just had it. So I go in and get the bin of cat litter, dump it into the trash outside, and bring it back in to fill it. And she's yelling at me that I shouldn't have done it then, and then yells at me about not helping her move stuff - which I asked twice if she wanted me to do.

When I was younger, I figured if I could actually find someone who would be with me and stay with me, that I could make things work. But, fuck, I can't make this work. But I don't have any other choice. I have too many medical issues, I can't just "be on my own." But I literally can't take this anymore. I can't deal with this. Heck, if it weren't for my cats, I would probably just wander off and go die in a gutter somewhere.

I'm just so absolutely sick of all of this. I can't do this. But I don't even have the option of "not doing this." No matter what I do, I get yelled at for it. I can't win. I can't even draw or withdraw. All I can do is lose. In the longest, most drawn-out and painful way possible.

Fuck my life.

Sorry.

I have no idea how to say anything remotely helpful, but I'm really sorry you feel like that man. I'd totally give you a hug but this is the internet.

I could really use a hug.
And one where I'm not getting yelled at during it or told things that I'm doing wrong during it.
 
I could really use a hug.
And one where I'm not getting yelled at during it or told things that I'm doing wrong during it.

Dude, this sounds like crazy rough. Is there seriously no possible way to divorce and bail out at all?

I have a tendency to criticise hug technique when I feel it's inadequate, but I wouldn't yell. Just gently admonish later.
 
Since I don't post here regularly, I might as well:

Your gender? Male
Your sexual orientation? Gay
Where Are You From? Maracaibo, Venezuela
Where Do You Live? Mexico, DF
How Old Are you? 28 (I turn 29 in a week!!!)
Gay death is imminent! :(
Favorite Type of Music? Taylor Swift,I mean, pop.
Profession or Career interest? Graphic Designer, Motion Graphics
Favorite video game(s)? Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Uncharted, The Last of Us.
What are your hobbies (other than gaming)? Movies, Music, Concerts, Sleeping, Eating, Cooking.
 
Oh, it's not yelling about "hug technique" so much, as a "Why do I have to give you what you want, when I never get what I want? And I have to do everything around here, and never have any time to myself, and you don't understand, etc. etc." as if I just sit around relaxing all day or something.

And, heck, I don't even know. As I said, it's not like I can just be on my own at this point. And no one would ever want someone with all of my issues.
 
P.S. As for why I'm dumping all of this here, two useful take-aways for others:

1) Two people with significantly different sex drives is a very difficult thing to make work. We're literally on exact opposite ends of that spectrum.

2) Don't just try to find "someone." You'll find someone. You'll find plenty of someones. It will take longer than you want. But it will be worth it. And the alternative isn't.
 
Dude, this sounds like crazy rough. Is there seriously no possible way to divorce and bail out at all?

I have a tendency to criticise hug technique when I feel it's inadequate, but I wouldn't yell. Just gently admonish later.
He probably doesn't make enough with disability and all that to live by himself. If heading have any debt, maybe, but he dmhas a shit ton.
 
He probably doesn't make enough with disability and all that to live by himself. If heading have any debt, maybe, but he dmhas a shit ton.

I could probably manage that. Going to be filing for bankruptcy anyway.
The main issue is all the medical appointments I need to go to everywhere, and all of the medical issues to deal with and everything.
 
It's all my fault anyway.
I had opportunities along the way to change this as well.
And I didn't.

I made my own (death)bed.
Now I have to lie in it.
 
Your gender? Female
Your sexual orientation? Gay
Where Are You From? Canada
Where Do You Live? Canada
How Old Are you?
26 and in denial...
Favorite Type of Music? Electro, R&B, rock, pop, everything.
Profession or Career interest? Social work.
Favorite video game(s)? Zelda, HotS, Chrono Trigger, 999, Fallout, etc.
What are your hobbies (other than gaming)? Reading, drawing, biking, abusing Netflix.

Your gender? Male
Your sexual orientation? Gay
Where Are You From? Born in Florida, but I'm a military brat so I'm really from nowhere.
Where Do You Live? Seattle, WA
How Old Are you? 24 too! :o Just turned 24 yesterday
Favorite Type of Music? Pop
Profession or Career interest? Retail management
Favorite video game(s)? Bayonetta, Fez, Portal 2, Banjo Kazooie/Tooie
What are your hobbies (other than gaming)? I like to read, but I've been too lazy to read lately. Just got into working out two months ago and it's slowly but surely becoming addicting.

Welcome!
 
I think one of the things that frustrates me most, is that you see so many guys complaining that their wives don't want to have sex, and would rather just cuddle, and it's like, why the heck can't that be what I have instead?

Sure, it wouldn't solve all my problems, or even most of them. But it's one of the situations where the difference between what I have and what I wanted is most unnecessarily significant.
 
Is it sidetracking if you're an Asexual or Greysexual having relationship problems due at least in part to your sexual minority status? Seems sort of on topic.

I know, I just feel like I'm doing far more complaining, and about far more stuff, here than is warranted given my situation.
 
Is it sidetracking if you're an Asexual or Greysexual having relationship problems due at least in part to your sexual minority status? Seems sort of on topic.
I'm really in a downer mood right now but I read that as Garysexual and had to chuckle.
 
I'm 24 too. Fuck, I bet we're all from the same sensate cluster! :O
Oh, thanks for reminding me. That's a series I'd watch whenever I get Netflix for myself.

I'm really in a downer mood right now but I read that as Garysexual and had to chuckle.
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Everyone's Garysexual.
 
It's all my fault anyway.
I had opportunities along the way to change this as well.
And I didn't.

I made my own (death)bed.
Now I have to lie in it.
Don't be silly, one doesn't choose what one doesn't want.

I'm young and inexperienced and have still managed to make mistakes so I know it's a bit arrogant of me to say this, but could you be suffering a bit from the sunken cost fallacy? I have lost 3 years of higher education which in the grand scheme doesn't mean much, but it still has a big effect on me which I imagine is much worse for you. Same with the marriage if you really feel like it. I would also call the hotline again hoping to have someone more competent on the line or looking for one which is more specialized, though I know that can be much harder than it should.

IBQ:
Your gender?
Cis male
Your sexual orientation?
Quite Gay
Where Are You From?
Vesterålen, Norway
Where Do You Live?
Tromsø, Norway
How Old Are you?
21
Favorite Type of Music?
Everything I thought, but (almost) everything was trance
Profession or Career interest?
Right now I work in a pizza chain and am leaning against IT education
Favorite video game(s)?
Starcraft, Metroid, Visual Novels like PhWr and DanRon, Simulator stuff like KSP and ETC2
What are your hobbies (other than gaming)?
I really like learning stuff so... browsing the web...
I'm trying to learn Latin though. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo (NSFW meaning) :P
 
P.S. As for why I'm dumping all of this here, two useful take-aways for others:

1) Two people with significantly different sex drives is a very difficult thing to make work. We're literally on exact opposite ends of that spectrum.

2) Don't just try to find "someone." You'll find someone. You'll find plenty of someones. It will take longer than you want. But it will be worth it. And the alternative isn't.

Didn't you propose to your wife after a few weeks or something? I know you've explained this before but I'm wondering if the sex was an issue from the beginning. Or did you try and have sex before you realized you just couldn't stand it?
 
Don't be silly, one doesn't choose what one doesn't want.

Well, willingly made decisions that led to much of the situation that I'm in, anyway.

I'm young and inexperienced and have still managed to make mistakes so I know it's a bit arrogant of me to say this

Don't worry. I know my previous posts came across as a bit judgmental/critical from bitterness, and I know I do often come across that way, but I'm really not that sort of person.

but could you be suffering a bit from the sunken cost fallacy? I have lost 3 years of higher education which in the grand scheme doesn't mean much, but it still has a big effect on me which I imagine is much worse for you.

There were a couple of significant points along my time in college - specifically, 2004 (when I transferred from a community college to a university, and continued on the path I was on), 2007 (when I started my Master's, and continued on the path that I was on), and 2010 (when I started on my PhD - also on that same path) - when I made some bad decisions for precisely that reason. I figured I had put so much time into things already, that I "shouldn't let it go to waste, and just go along with things."

I'm trying to correct that by going down the IT path now, but, not making those decisions at those times are some of my biggest regrets.

Same with the marriage if you really feel like it.

Yeah, I could write a similar sort of reply to this as my previous paragraph above >.>

I would also call the hotline again hoping to have someone more competent on the line or looking for one which is more specialized, though I know that can be much harder than it should.

I know I should... I'm just not looking forward to having to repeat everything again. Wish they could just keep a file on me >.>


I'm trying to learn Latin though. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo (NSFW meaning) :P

To end on a positive note - taking Latin back in 8th and 9th grade (which would be 1996-1997 for me) was fun.
If you want some NSFW stuff, I highly recommend checking out Latin for Even More Occasions (and, I would imagine, Latin for All Occasions as well, but I only had the former)
 
Didn't you propose to your wife after a few weeks or something?

Yeah.
I pretty much would only date someone if they were at least willing to seriously consider marriage.

Which, needless to say, in my teens significantly limited my dating pool.

Although, we were together for 5 and a half years before we got married.


I'm wondering if the sex was an issue from the beginning.

Well, one of my other things was that I didn't want to have sex until I was married (another thing that significantly limited my dating pool, needless to say).
She had before, but was willing to wait with me, so I figured that was good.

Or did you try and have sex before you realized you just couldn't stand it?

It wasn't so much a "realization that I couldn't stand it," as a "building up over time of several negative aspects around it/associations with it/it just overall being a very unpleasant experience"

Also, just to answer what is probably a fairly obvious follow-up question - no, I never had any issues with abuse or anything like that, nor anyone else trying to impose these sorts of decisions on me. These are all just more bad decisions that I've made in my life.
 
Also, just to answer what is probably a fairly obvious follow-up question - no, I never had any issues with abuse or anything like that, nor anyone else trying to impose these sorts of decisions on me. These are all just more bad decisions that I've made in my life.
You definitely do now, though, from what you've described. It sounds like your wife is being verbally and emotionally abusive (whether she intends to or not), and that's not a good environment to be stuck in. It only reinforces your already low feelings of self-worth and makes it harder for you to envision a different future for yourself. Eventually, you will have to address that, no matter how hard it may be, but on your own terms.

Hindsight is 20/20 for the decisions you've made in the past, as well. Some of them may have been mistakes. But there will always be alternative paths for you to take; they may not be better or worse, and simply be different. I'm sure the majority of people don't end up where they expected to several years down the line. What's important is that you're still alive so you can still make steps towards a new life for yourself. Change is never easy and almost always requires you to fight with it a little, but it is not too late. You don't need to wait for your death for things to get better because you deserve more than you think you do. Let mistakes and any regret remain a quiet memory of the past or they will continue haunting you in the present. (Easier said than done, obviously. But suicide hotlines and mental health professionals are a good idea. Maybe write up everything you feel so it doesn't feel like such a chore to reiterate it out of the ether every damn time.)
 
Try to fix the other parts too though. I know you can do it. :)

You have far more confidence in me than I do.
And I'm afraid that it's likely misplaced.



You definitely do now, though, from what you've described. It sounds like your wife is being verbally and emotionally abusive (whether she intends to or not), and that's not a good environment to be stuck in. It only reinforces your already low feelings of self-worth and makes it harder for you to envision a different future for yourself.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

And, I'm sorry I'm not being as open with you all as would be helpful. It's probably an easy guess why.

You don't need to wait for your death for things to get better

But that's the path of least resistance... >.>

because you deserve more than you think you do.

Sadly, I don't even get the little that I do think I deserve >.>

Let mistakes and any regret remain a quiet memory of the past or they will continue haunting you in the present.

And, yeah, that's pretty much what happens.

(Easier said than done, obviously. But suicide hotlines and mental health professionals are a good idea.

We had/have (not as often lately) been seeing a therapist, but it usually ends up being essentially marriage counseling/her going over all the things I'm doing wrong >.>

I should just start going on my own as well...

Maybe write up everything you feel so it doesn't feel like such a chore to reiterate it out of the ether every damn time.)

That's probably a good idea too.
 
Not taking her side or anything, but I can understand her frustration when it comes to sex. It's just a bad situation. She shouldn't be treating you like shit, but she probably just doesn't understand.
 
Not taking her side or anything, but I can understand her frustration when it comes to sex. It's just a bad situation. She shouldn't be treating you like shit, but she probably just doesn't understand.

Oh, I definitely agree on that, I can definitely see why it would be very frustrating for her, and why it's directly responsible for many of the issues.
 
To end on a positive note - taking Latin back in 8th and 9th grade (which would be 1996-1997 for me) was fun.
If you want some NSFW stuff, I highly recommend checking out Latin for Even More Occasions (and, I would imagine, Latin for All Occasions as well, but I only had the former)
I'm on mobile (and it's bedtime) so I won't quote everything.

Sounds like a fun book. I've gone through a lot of churches filled with Latin (which I'm unable to parse, I can't even finish hic, haec, hoc -_-) and it is funny in hindsight to know how much sinful stuff has been written in that seemingly holy language. I also wanted to learn it because it just looks cool and still does in those churches.

Regarding choices I know that you made all of those small ones willingly, but not the big one they resulted in.
I have an odd view on regret. I obviously feel it, but I also don't believe in free will which is strangely soothing.

Regarding the hotline, that just sucks. I was simply thinking of the friction for having a bad experience, but also having to list it again sounds bad. The next person might be better at going through it. I went to two different for counseling (my doctor and a school councilor) and the latter I went to was a lot more understanding. That helped a lot even though I didn't get nuch closer to a solution.

I can also be quite arrogant in real life and internet me is less filtered. I still need to tell myself the people I'm replying to aren't stupid -_-
 
Your gender? Male
Your sexual orientation? Straight / Bi-Questioning
Where Are You From? Atlanta, GA
Where Do You Live? Atlanta, GA
How Old Are you? 30
Favorite Type of Music? Top 40
Profession or Career interest? I'm a special type of Engineer
Favorite video game(s)? Assassin's Creed, Halo,
Heroes of the Storm
,
TESO
, The New Batman Series
What are your hobbies (other than gaming)? Hanging out with friends, Golfing, Drinking, Playing with my dog.
 
Sounds like a fun book. I've gone through a lot of churches filled with Latin (which I'm unable to parse, I can't even finish hic, haec, hoc -_-) and it is funny in hindsight to know how much sinful stuff has been written in that seemingly holy language. I also wanted to learn it because it just looks cool and still does in those churches.

Funny story (which I'm sure I've shared on GAF before), but, after I got that book (Latin for Even More Occasions), I ended up writing a semi-erotic story involving the characters from our 8th grade Latin book (Ecce Romani) and giving it to my teacher (who was probably in her 70s). She was very impressed by it, and gave me extra credit points for it.


Regarding choices I know that you made all of those small ones willingly, but not the big one they resulted in.

I know... And you're right, of course...
That helps somewhat, I guess...
I still view it all as being mostly my fault/having no one to blame but myself, though...

Regarding the hotline, that just sucks. I was simply thinking of the friction for having a bad experience, but also having to list it again sounds bad. The next person might be better at going through it. I went to two different for counseling (my doctor and a school councilor) and the latter I went to was a lot more understanding. That helped a lot even though I didn't get nuch closer to a solution.

Yeah, I know I need to just start trying some different things, as opposed to just moping around all the time, essentially just waiting to die.


I still feel bad cluttering the thread up with all of this, when probably the Mental Health thread is a better place for it. Although I've gotten a whole bunch of really great feedback here, and I really appreciate it. I just feel bad taking up so much of the thread, which I know had been a bit of an issue in one of the threads before too... I'm sorry...


Addendum:

I'm on mobile (and it's bedtime)

I've posted on GAF from some pretty interesting places >.>
 
For the new thread, since everyone is doing it and I just want to be popular: lady, bi, Hawaii, 24, electronic, government lackey, point-and-click adventures and immersive sims, constitutional law and biochemistry and binge-watching every television show I can get my hands on basically.

Good morning everyone.

Cool. Any ones in particular? I'm fond of the Sierra games late 80s/early 90s (KQ/SQ/LSL etc)
 
I don't believe in free will which is strangely soothing.

Hm?

Your gender? Male
Your sexual orientation? Straight / Bi-Questioning
Where Are You From? Atlanta, GA
Where Do You Live? Atlanta, GA
How Old Are you? 30
Favorite Type of Music? Top 40
Profession or Career interest? I'm a special type of Engineer
Favorite video game(s)? Assassin's Creed, Halo,
Heroes of the Storm
,
TESO
, The New Batman Series
What are your hobbies (other than gaming)? Hanging out with friends, Golfing, Drinking, Playing with my dog.

Welcome! :)

I still feel bad cluttering the thread up with all of this, when probably the Mental Health thread is a better place for it. Although I've gotten a whole bunch of really great feedback here, and I really appreciate it. I just feel bad taking up so much of the thread, which I know had been a bit of an issue in one of the threads before too... I'm sorry...

It's not like the thread is being used for anything else at the moment


One of us! One of us!
 
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