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Liam Gallagher rips Franz Ferdinand, Scissor Sisters, Bloc Party, Kaiser Chiefs..etc.

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Meier

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Haha, with this new album getting such deserved hype (check out a number of clips on this interview) and all of the tour dates in the US and abroad selling out, I kinda had a feeling that oasis would try and just soak it all in and poke fun at eachother. But NME gave them a platform to bitch from and Liam siezed it:

Speaking about Franz Ferdinand singer Alex Kapranos, Gallagher said: “He reminds me of fucking Right Said Fred. You put on 'I’m To Sexy For My Fucking Thing' next to their records and I bet you any money it’s the same person. It’s the same fucking person! He’s just gone on the Atkins diet and grown his hair! Not my thing at all. I don’t like quirky, weird music. It’s not my cup of tea all that nonsense, million miles an hour music that’s not going anywhere.”

Turning on Doherty, he added: “I’m not into smackheads. Smackheads need slaps… So what does the word Libertine mean? What does it mean? Freedom? He’s fucking in the corner doing smack with a helmet on his head! There’s nothing free about that. It’s nasty, innit? If the kids like them, fair enough, but they’re nowhere near like us. The music’s rubbish for start”.

Scissor Sisters - who claimed that Oasis lacked respect for the Glastonbury crowd following their muted performance at last year’s event – were also slammed by Liam who retorted saying: “If that’s what they call entertaining then let them ‘av it - bright colours and fucking weirdos on stilts? I’m more entertaining than that cunt. And I’ll rip his fucking vocal chords out anyday because he’s fucking rubbish.”

Even newcomers Kaiser Chiefs and Bloc Party weren’t safe from Gallagher’s acid tongue, with the singer describing the former as “a bad Blur” and the latter as “a band off University Challenge, like they’re sitting on a panel or something”.

However, in the band’s revealing interview, Gallagher did reserve praise for an unlikely star.

"It's Charlotte Church for me, man,” he stated. “She could be the next Liam. She's got a great voice and she f**king has it. She knows how to get f**king hammered and she freaks people out."

:lol :lol The Scissor Sisters comment in particular cracked me up. Apparently he slags off on Keane as well and in response to people claiming they sucked at Glastonbury '04 said, "People said I sang bad but I can't ever see that happening. Because I never sing bad." For the record, I dig Franz Ferdinand, Kaiser Chiefs, Bloc Party (to a certain extent), Keane, The Libertines/Babyshambles, etc. but Liam cracks me the fuck up.

Some more quotes I transcribed and added afterwards:

Here are a few more good quotes from the interview, including Noel being a bit gentler although he still lashes out at the Scissors and Keane (calls them music for squares -- ouch!)

Noel on the Scissor Sisters: "Scissor Sisters? It's just music for hairdressers isn't it? My daughter's five and she fucking loves them. Say no more."

After Noel says they turned down The Kaiser Chiefs' offer to play MGS, Liam replies: "But they wear fookin' make-up and their kecks are skintight. What's that about?" (kecks being another word for trousers)

"But you can't be a drug snob and say Pete's more of a cunt than we were! We were doing serious drugs in '95, we were rowdy fuckers but we weren't turned into monsters (by the papers) like he's been." Goes to say Pete Doherty has always been a gentleman to him and his wife and he loves the sense of devotions The Libertines' fans have.

Liam likes Kasabian and the 22-20's as well as a song by The Subways. Most other bands are shit although Noel doesn't necessarily agree. Thinks that Pete's other project Babyshambles has a chance (my note: how awesome a song is Fuck Forever?).

Noel on someone becoming the next preiminent ROCK band of England and making oasis "unnecessary": "I hope it does happen! I've said to people, 'The torch is there, man. Somebody fucking come and take it if you've got the balls!'

Liam on where they stand in the current British wave of music: "We're just a rock'n'roll band. We never fit in with Britpop either. I don't want to fit in because all these young fookin' bucks arent fit to wipe my shoes. They all look like idiots and they wear winklepickers! Winklepickers!" (pointed shoes)

Noel on how oasis changed British music and their effect on today's artists: "It's not me being big-headed saying, "That's why you all got into music,' or 'That's why you all got into writing (to the NME writer, who confirms its truth). Because it changed my life just as much. It changed all of our lives. For a certain age-group of people who are 24 and upwards, we were Year Zero. Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine never seemed so far away after that."
 

calder

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Meier said:
For the record, I dig Franz Ferdinand, Kaiser Chiefs, Bloc Party (to a certain extent), Keane, The Libertines/Babyshambles, etc. but Liam cracks me the fuck up.
:lol Me too, I love Liam for being such an opinionated jackass even when I don't agree with his nutty opinions. At least he and Noel are funny about being complete dicks.
 
Matt from Bloc Party recently said Oasis was lazy and unambitious, so there will likely be some back and forth going between them for awhile.
 

Meier

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SolidSnakex said:
Matt from Bloc Party recently said Oasis was lazy and unambitious, so there will likely be some back and forth going between them for awhile.

What a little git. Tell him to wait till he's sold 10 million albums, let alone nearly 40, before he goes and talks shit about the band that made British rock music relevant on a world scale again.
 
He's hilarious, but for all the wrong reasons.

I'm no Bloc Party fan, but don't excuse Oasis's sheer lack of originality by saying they've sold tons of records. The guy from Bloc Party's right; Oasis fucking blow.
 
Oasis are sort of the rock music equivalent of muzak. I hear Rod Stewart and Michael Bolton are eagerly anticipating the new album.

I'd take Blur's laziest song, "Crazy Beat", over anything those ugly trogs have ever recorded.
 
Oasis is like the world's best collection of douchebaggery in modern music. Seriously, there's "opinionated" and there's "dickhead." And Liam doesn't just blur the line--he erases it completely and then pours sulfuric acid so that anyone curious enough to know where that line is will have their fingers dissolved when they touch where the suspected line should be.
 

nitewulf

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fine...usually i try to stay away from oasis threads. but the member of such an awfully derivative band has no right to make such comments. fuck oasis.
 

Meier

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I can't wait for Don't Believe the Truth to come out and knock people the fuck out. This is and will be the album of 2005 without question. It's received a 5-star review from the Observer who typically "slag off" on oasis already.

But that's all beside the point, this is just for laughing at Liam's quoteworthiness which hasn't diminished it's easy to see (whether you like the band or not).
 
At least bands like Kaiser Chiefs, Franz Ferdinand, and whoever else are going somewhere with their sound. Gang of Four isn't exactly the worst influence.

And I'm sure Don't Believe the Truth is gonna "knock me the fuck out", when the new single is just as trite and dull as the rest of Oasis's musical ouevre.
 

nitewulf

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gang of four is porbably an influence for FF...but i think ppl over analyze that. franz ferdinand is disco...gang of four was dance/punk...repetative and bland at that.
franz ferdinand is actually, you know, fun. sure indie kids may not wanna admit it but what do i care.

edit: yeah, i hated the new oasis single as well. just didnt comment.
 
I agree with that, which is why I said I think they're actually cultivating a new type of sound.

I've never understood the shit Liam says, and I've always found it incredible that at one point Blur and Oasis were at each other's throats. To me, thinking Oasis is/was better than Blur at any point is admitting that you have no right to express your opinion on music.
 

dem

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He's right... those bands do fucking suck.

I tried to listen to that Bloc Party album... its about as exciting as a block of wood. Franz Ferdinand has maybe 2 good songs... and one of them is take me out. Hell, I only like half of "take me out". I havent even gotten through the libertines album.


Oasis is 10x better than those wankers. If Oasis wasnt Oasis you cunts would be all over their cock.
 

Meier

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Matlock said:
Dear Oasis:

When you can make good music, then you can start talking shit.


Sincerely,

Some Americans who don't know what the fuck they're talking about, the rest of us still love you

Fixed.

Here are a few more good quotes from the interview, including Noel being a bit gentler although he still lashes out at the Scissors and Keane (calls them music for squares -- ouch!)

Noel on the Scissor Sisters: "Scissor Sisters? It's just music for hairdressers isn't it? My daughter's five and she fucking loves them. Say no more."

After Noel says they turned down The Kaiser Chiefs' offer to play MGS, Liam replies: "But they wear fookin' make-up and their kecks are skintight. What's that about?" (kecks being another word for trousers)

"But you can't be a drug snob and say Pete's more of a cunt than we were! We were doing serious drugs in '95, we were rowdy fuckers but we weren't turned into monsters (by the papers) like he's been." Goes to say Pete Doherty has always been a gentleman to him and his wife and he loves the sense of devotions The Libertines' fans have.

Liam likes Kasabian and the 22-20's as well as a song by The Subways. Most other bands are shit although Noel doesn't necessarily agree. Thinks that Pete's other project Babyshambles has a chance (my note: how awesome a song is Fuck Forever?).

Noel on someone becoming the next preiminent ROCK band of England and making oasis "unnecessary": "I hope it does happen! I've said to people, 'The torch is there, man. Somebody fucking come and take it if you've got the balls!'

Liam on where they stand in the current British wave of music: "We're just a rock'n'roll band. We never fit in with Britpop either. I don't want to fit in because all these young fookin' bucks arent fit to wipe my shoes. They all look like idiots and they wear winklepickers! Winklepickers!" (pointed shoes)

Noel on how oasis changed British music and their effect on today's artists: "It's not me being big-headed saying, "That's why you all got into music,' or 'That's why you all got into writing (to the NME writer, who confirms its truth). Because it changed my life just as much. It changed all of our lives. For a certain age-group of people who are 24 and upwards, we were Year Zero. Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine never seemed so far away after that."
 

Ill Saint

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Good on him, at least Oasis don't give a fuck... All these "The" bands and the rest of the poser garage / disco rock warbling jingle-janglers need to go away. Most uninspired, derivitive musical trend since nu-metal, but at least those guys were funny.
 
dem said:
He's right... those bands do fucking suck.

I tried to listen to that Bloc Party album... its about as exciting as a block of wood. Franz Ferdinand has maybe 2 good songs... and one of them is take me out. Hell, I only like half of "take me out". I havent even gotten through the libertines album.


Oasis is 10x better than those wankers. If Oasis wasnt Oasis you cunts would be all over their cock.
Uh, that last statement makes no fucking sense whatsoever. I don't like Oasis because their music is bland shit.
 

xsarien

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Meier said:
What a little git. Tell him to wait till he's sold 10 million albums, let alone nearly 40, before he goes and talks shit about the band that made British rock music relevant on a world scale again.

FYI:
When the Spice Girls hit it big, the same comments were made about them. You should know this from the gaming forum, Meier. Sales !=quality.
 

kablooey

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Oasis is fucking awful. They haven't done anything interesting since 1996, and have basically sat on their asses getting hammered and being whiny little dickheads/cunts since then. Fuck 'em.

(Now, I'm not the biggest fan of any of these other bands either, but sucktitude is sucktitude. And Oasis has it in spades.)
 

Meier

Member
xsarien said:
FYI:
When the Spice Girls hit it big, the same comments were made about them. You should know this from the gaming forum, Meier. Sales !=quality.

The difference of course being that Spice Girls did that for British bubblegum pop which would have made their comparison relevant if it were S Club 7 or Saint Etienne speaking poorly about them. On the other hand, oasis did it for British music in general, but specifically British rock. In their own country, they caused a cultural revolution and these kids today were without question influenced by them and likely looked up to them as gods when they were growing up. They need to learn their place.

As for your comment on the sales != quality debate, your thoughts have been noted on them plenty of times in the past and have been incorrect then and will continue to be.
 
Meier said:
In their own country, they caused a cultural revolution and these kids today were without question influenced by them and likely looked up to them as gods when they were growing up. They need to learn their place.

:lol
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Meier said:
They need to learn their place.

Oasis? Why, yes, yes they do.

As for your comment on the sales != quality debate, your thoughts have been noted on them plenty of times in the past and have been incorrect then and will continue to be.

Oooh, your opinion is unquestionable fact now. I get it.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
"Oasis is fucking awful. They haven't done anything interesting since 1996, and have basically sat on their asses getting hammered and being whiny little dickheads/cunts since then. Fuck 'em. "

almost entirely agreed - although they could trade off the back of their early stuff forever, because it is that good IMO.

Also - Oasis killed the "indie" scene.

The pillaging of the Indie labels by the majors looking for the "next Oasis" whilst discarding just about anyone good/interesting/different made me want to hate Oasis with a passion.
 

Meier

Member
Sal Paradise Jr said:

Umm, you're laughing but it's true. And if you try and deny it, it just makes you look like an idiot.

On comparing them to Nickelback: Come back to me when they've been around for 14 years and can sell out MSG in under an hour and set records for sell-outs all across Europe. Please. oasis are STILL the biggest rock band in Europe and have devotes fans worldwide for a good reason -- their music resonates with countless people. Nickleback is a flash in the pan and will be looked back as such.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Meier said:
Umm, you're laughing but it's true. And if you try and deny it, it just makes you look like an idiot.

I don't know about Sal, but I'm laughing because you probably typed that with a straight face. :p
 

kablooey

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Eh, their early stuff was cool when I was 10 years old. Now I see it for what it is, which is decent, but highly derivative (of the Beatles) pop-rock. Even when they were at the "top of their game", they weren't doing anything terribly interesting. Certainly nothing to be bragging about nearly 10 years later.
 
Teknopathetic said:
Oasis is like the world's best collection of douchebaggery in modern music. Seriously, there's "opinionated" and there's "dickhead." And Liam doesn't just blur the line--he erases it completely and then pours sulfuric acid so that anyone curious enough to know where that line is will have their fingers dissolved when they touch where the suspected line should be.

So he's like you, me, enjoy bell wood, and every other dickhead with an opinion on music. Did you expect him to play it professional and be dishonest by offering filler opinions like "They're not my kind of band but I respect them," something you'd expect from Scott Stap or whats-his-face from Nickelback? Please, they asked his opinion on MUSIC and he offered his honest answer. You've called bands shit, I've called bands shit, Liam's called bands shit. Nothing has changed except your clear agitation with the guys opinion. Hypocrite. :lol
 
"Nothing has changed except your clear agitation with the guys opinion. Hypocrite."

I'm not fond of any of the bands he's mentioned, it's not quite adoration that's making me call him a dick. He's honestly *just* a dick. And there's a difference between calling a band "shit" and going off on a tirade on every band in existence while propping yourself on a pedestal. There's no hypocrisy here, pal.
 
enjoy bell woods said:
Meier, just face it. You like the Nickelback of British rock. When you come to terms with that, I'll respect your opinion.

You're just mad because Oasis made fun of your favorite band. But we all know Definitely Maybe and WTSMG were well received, Be Here Now as well received before the backlash, and Don't Believe the Truth is getting great reviews. Not that it matters. You won't listen because you've already made up your mind that their dickheads and their music is uninteresting. Fair enough. But you're full of SHIT of you compare them to Nickelback because, honestly, what are you basing this comparison on other than your dislike for the band?
 
Tekno, everytime I see your avatar in the corner of my eye, I think it moves. Even when I stare at it head-on, it looks like it moves ever so slightly. Creepy.
 
Teknopathetic said:
"Nothing has changed except your clear agitation with the guys opinion. Hypocrite."

I'm not fond of any of the bands he's mentioned, it's not quite adoration that's making me call him a dick. He's honestly *just* a dick. And there's a difference between calling a band "shit" and going off on a tirade on every band in existence while propping yourself on a pedestal. There's no hypocrisy here, pal.

Sure there is. Hell everybody does it, PAL. Look at the WEEZER TOPIC. EXAMPLES APLENTY. Are you going to call a lot of those people dicks? Go ahead, I don't care. I'm sure you've never offered heavily exaggerated criticism of a band.
 
DCharlie said:
almost entirely agreed - although they could trade off the back of their early stuff forever, because it is that good IMO.

Also - Oasis killed the "indie" scene.

The pillaging of the Indie labels by the majors looking for the "next Oasis" whilst discarding just about anyone good/interesting/different made me want to hate Oasis with a passion.

Oasis didn't kill the "indie" scene. The indies killed their own fucking scene.
 
The power of the G-men, Sal.

Cloudlike: I don't think you quite got my post, so I'll recommend that you both reread it *and* read what I'm about to say.

I've downed and insulted bands before, of course, but I'm not an egomaniacal jerkwad (Who really self references themself by saying someone else could "be the next me"?) either. There's big differences between having an opinion, having a vocal opinion, and being a douche to everyone imaginable. And even outside being known for his opinion, he's a douche in general.
 
xsarien said:
FYI:
When the Spice Girls hit it big, the same comments were made about them. You should know this from the gaming forum, Meier. Sales !=quality.

What DOES equal quality then other than your own opinion? If we disregard yours for a second and use the UNIVERSAL JUDGE OF GREAT ALBUMS -- responsible for why these albums are stated as great albums matter-of-factly: Abbey Road, Revolver, Let It Bleed, Achtung Baby, OK Computer, The Velvet Underground & Nico, Different Class -- then you MUST acknowledge that Definitely Maybe and Whats the Story Morning Glory are considered great albums by general consensus. This isn't fucking Nickelback. These albums are CONSISTENTLY on greatest albums lists for a reason.
 
Teknopathetic said:
The power of the G-men, Sal.

Cloudlike: I don't think you quite got my post, so I'll recommend that you both reread it *and* read what I'm about to say.

I've downed and insulted bands before, of course, but I'm not an egomaniacal jerkwad (Who really self references themself by saying someone else could "be the next me"?) either. There's big differences between having an opinion, having a vocal opinion, and being a douche to everyone imaginable. And even outside being known for his opinion, he's a douche in general.

He offered a vocal opinion, you called him a douchebag. :lol
 

kablooey

Member
PartlyCloudlike said:
What DOES equal quality then other than your own opinion? If we disregard yours for a second and use the UNIVERSAL JUDGE OF GREAT ALBUMS -- responsible for why these albums are stated as great albums matter-of-factly: Abbey Road, Revolver, Let It Bleed, Achtung Baby, OK Computer, The Velvet Underground & Nico, Different Class -- then you MUST acknowledge that Definitely Maybe and Whats the Story Morning Glory are considered great albums by general consensus. This isn't fucking Nickelback. These albums are CONSISTENTLY on greatest albums lists for a reason.

:lol Holy shit, there's no way either of those Oasis albums are anywhere near any of those other albums you listed. No way. WTSMG and DM were good for what they were, which was simple, uplifting pop-rock, but not much more than that. This shouldn't even be up for debate.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
"Oasis didn't kill the "indie" scene. The indies killed their own fucking scene."

you mean , the indie labels killed it by selling out to the bigger boys? I'm guessing so if that's the case.

If not, please explain what you mean.
 
PartlyCloudlike said:
You're just mad because Oasis made fun of your favorite band. But we all know Definitely Maybe and WTSMG were well received, Be Here Now as well received before the backlash, and Don't Believe the Truth is getting great reviews. Not that it matters. You won't listen because you've already made up your mind that their dickheads and their music is uninteresting. Fair enough. But you're full of SHIT of you compare them to Nickelback because, honestly, what are you basing this comparison on other than your dislike for the band?
Uh.
 
kablooey said:
:lol Holy shit, there's no way either of those Oasis albums are anywhere near any of those other albums you listed. No way. WTSMG and DM were good for what they were, which was simple, uplifting pop-rock, but not much more than that. This shouldn't even be up for debate.

Did I say they were AS great as those albums? I said they are considered great albums, period. YOU may not like them. I'm sure there are people who don't like Abbey Road, but those people will probably realize that it's CONSIDERED a great album by many people and dickhead music critics. The same goes for DM and WTSM. Q magazine, a magazine who slated Oasis' last two albums, named Definitely Maybe the greatest British album of the last 20 years. I personally dislike Q Magazine. And I know you disagree, but don't deny that its considered a great album by MANY.
 
Oasis have not released anything even decent in the last 10 years or so. They have no right to make fun of any bands considering how bland their music has become.
 
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