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Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread
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I think the only thing that disappointed me a bit with episode 4 was seeing Mr. Jefferson at the end and going "of course he's the bad guy". I suppose to the game's credit they did a very good job in making him seem suspicious while only leaving hints of what he what he really might be. And for a second I did assume that it really was Nathan shooting the gun at Chloe, but can't say it was much of a shock when in turned out to be Jefferson there. Dude has come off as shady ever since his conversation with Kate at the end of Episode 2 right before she went on the roof. And speaking of the final scene, didn't seem particularly intelligent of them to rush to the junkyard for an obvious trap after getting the text, but I suppose if they hadn't, it wouldn't set up a pretty good cliffhanger for the final episode.
Before I actually played Episode 4, I was wondering what would be the primary focus of it; the alternate reality set up in episode 3, or whether that would quickly be wrapped up so they could go back to the main story. I was very happy that DONTNOD was able to dedicate a good chunk of time to both. It was nice to see them play around with the time mechanic; not just seeing how altering choices in conversation alters the story, but to also see how making a significant change in the past affects the present. It made for a longer episode, which I didn't mind in the least.
Definitely will be quite interesting to see how they're going to wrap all this up in the last episode (though perhaps a bit sad as well that the season is almost done). I have to imagine Chloe isn't actually dead for good, but similar to attempting to revive her father, what will be the consequences? Will David Madsen get some sort of redemption and rescue Max and finally expose Jefferson and the Prescotts? And what's the payoff for warning Alyssa every time? I certainly look forward to finding out.
Before I actually played Episode 4, I was wondering what would be the primary focus of it; the alternate reality set up in episode 3, or whether that would quickly be wrapped up so they could go back to the main story. I was very happy that DONTNOD was able to dedicate a good chunk of time to both. It was nice to see them play around with the time mechanic; not just seeing how altering choices in conversation alters the story, but to also see how making a significant change in the past affects the present. It made for a longer episode, which I didn't mind in the least.
Definitely will be quite interesting to see how they're going to wrap all this up in the last episode (though perhaps a bit sad as well that the season is almost done). I have to imagine Chloe isn't actually dead for good, but similar to attempting to revive her father, what will be the consequences? Will David Madsen get some sort of redemption and rescue Max and finally expose Jefferson and the Prescotts? And what's the payoff for warning Alyssa every time? I certainly look forward to finding out.
SamualDude
Member
Shouldn't be too far away. The main menu after selecting a save now states that Episode 5 is coming soon.
Yeah going by the previous release dates:
Episode 1 30 January 2015
Episode 2 24 March 2015
Episode 3 19 May 2015
Episode 4 28 July 2015
I think it's pretty say to safe Episode 5 will be coming at the end of the month.
Keyser Soze
Member
That would almost be too obvious.There is always the option to jump all the way back to episode one, as there was a required selfie taken there too. Also, there was a required selfie taken in episode 3 in Chloe's room.
Also, if Max is in the Dark Room with all the red binders, she should have access to 100s of other photos. Drugged Kate and Rachel has photos too. We don't fully know how her powers work yet - she might be able to jump into a photo she was never originally in.
I think it always says that about the next episode.
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
But we already did.
The deer watching them when they find her body. I'm sure that's her spirit.
Unless it's Max's spirit animal.
I think so. I can't remember the exact timeline but she has been missing for six months already, right?
renegade_dewitt
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Every time I watch a play through of this game, I cringe slightly whenever that moment in the game arrives when Max is at the Vortex Club Party and every single character she interacts with notes how "intense she looks," and because the games graphics are rudimentary, it doesn't even appear like that. Always puts me out of the atmosphere of the game at this point in the game.
Anyone else think this?
Anyone else think this?
A lot of the interactions with minor characters are kind goofy and weird in Episode 4 in general. Way too wordy and gushy about each other.
I assume they are meant to serve as goodbyes to some of the cast, as they probably won't appear in Episode 5, but it was still jarring to see Max tell Person X how they're so amazing for the third time.
I assume they are meant to serve as goodbyes to some of the cast, as they probably won't appear in Episode 5, but it was still jarring to see Max tell Person X how they're so amazing for the third time.
John Kowalski
Banned
I hope not.
A little, but I can suspend my disbelief for it. She just unearthed the corpse of a girl and saw a secret underground rape/murder dungeon. Would it be more immersive if the graphics could really support a pained expression?
Sure.
But I'm not picky about stuff like that. I think Mother 3 has one of the most genuinely emotional stories in gaming and they're all 15x25 sprites.
Sure.
But I'm not picky about stuff like that. I think Mother 3 has one of the most genuinely emotional stories in gaming and they're all 15x25 sprites.
Nappuccino
Member
Yeah . . . I also wonder if they had everyone comment on it in case you skipped a few people. They wanted to make sure you got that info.
The initial date for Episode 4 was on the first week of July, though. It ended up being the last. It's the final episode, and they just finished recording the voices last week or so. Now they need to put them in and then make sure that everything works. I'd actually bet the episode will be out until mid-October, but not in September.
Third Strike
Member
The week of the 4th in October would be iconic. That is the same week as the Vortex Party, and would give us a ten week gap from episode 4. Works for me.
It wouldn't be the first time the dates have aligned between LiS and real life:
Oct 10th, 2013 was the day the Vortex pool party was on.
Yeah it got a bit funny hearing her say how awesome each person was. Perhaps some sharper writing would have saved the dialogue from becoming too monotonous. Still, I felt it worked overall because I believed Max was being genuine each time she said it, and the person she was talking to seemed to think so as well.
As you said, a lot of it felt like the classic television/movie trope of the protagonist having one final conversation with everyone that serves as the goodbye before she has to go it alone. Then again, considering this is a series based on rewinding time, it certainly wouldn't be shocking to see everyone again in some alternate (or perhaps earlier episode) version of Blackwell in the next episode.
On a somewhat unrelated note that I got to thinking of after seeing so many of the characters at the Vortex Party, I have to say I really enjoyed all the "high school drama" Max dealt with for all these people. Obviously the plot has now shifted to a much more serious tone, but I feel the series has also done well with dealing with high school problems. Almost reminds me a bit of Persona 3 and 4.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Interesting interview with Hannah Telle
posted it in here because it does contain spoilers.
posted it in here because it does contain spoilers.
http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2015/0...fe-is-strange-is-the-greatest-honor-2/166374/
How do you prove to someone that you have rewind powers?
I know Chloe was so enthusiastic about Max's rewind powers in Episode 2, and when Max did her tests at the diner, Chloe was very willing to accept the results of those tests and conclude she has rewind powers.
But from Chloe's perspective, is it rational to conclude Max can rewind during that scene? What Max is doing looks supernatural but I think it would be more rational to conclude she can read minds or is omniscient...
I know Chloe was so enthusiastic about Max's rewind powers in Episode 2, and when Max did her tests at the diner, Chloe was very willing to accept the results of those tests and conclude she has rewind powers.
But from Chloe's perspective, is it rational to conclude Max can rewind during that scene? What Max is doing looks supernatural but I think it would be more rational to conclude she can read minds or is omniscient...
AmethystEnd
Member
Max told her what her powers were. Straight up. She proved she had supernatural powers in some capacity. There's zero reason for Chloe to believe Max is lying about the exact mechanism by which she proved her abilities.
Ah, that's a really good point.
I love to think about this specific point though. I think that Chloe and Max's special relationship help so much - as you say there's zero reason for Chloe to ever think Max is lying.
I still think on a fundamental logical level, it seems like it is literally impossible to prove without a doubt to say, a stranger, that you have rewind abilities.
Interesting puzzle. Yeah, there wouldn't be a way to tell that someone was winning a series of lotteries by specifically rewinding time vs clairvoyance. Her ability to bring back objects would do it though.
Bring back a copy of Warren's test paper after grading, then rewind to before his test, wait for him to take the test, and then compare the completely identical physical copies under a microscope. Stuff like that. Shorter-term, ask Chloe to crumple a piece of paper, then bring out the identically-crumpled one, flatten them both and compare the creases. (they probably can't get into this too much because you run into paradoxical rules)
Discotheque
Banned
loved the first 3 episodes so much but tbh I think the fourth wasn't that good. max literally started every conversation with everybody like "You are so...[insert positive adjective here]"
and then it turned into the fucking girl with the dragon tattoo jr. edition.
hoping the 5th ends the series strong though. But I think the emotional beats of the game are way better than the plot points. This game is at it's best when it's just her getting a text from her parents, or talking to warren or hanging out with chloe after so long etc.
it's gonna get me shook if they really decide to kill chloe though
best friends forever plz.
and then it turned into the fucking girl with the dragon tattoo jr. edition.
hoping the 5th ends the series strong though. But I think the emotional beats of the game are way better than the plot points. This game is at it's best when it's just her getting a text from her parents, or talking to warren or hanging out with chloe after so long etc.
it's gonna get me shook if they really decide to kill chloe though
best friends forever plz.Tezzeractor
Member
What if you recorded multiple possible futures on video and show them? Or would that just prove that you have video-tape manipulating powers? I mean... I feel predicting the future or what someone is thinking, taking photographic evidence, teleporting and bringing back items from the future would be enough to convince me.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Depends how far back we go, doubt we'll see Rachel Amber though.
I'm watching a Let's Play of Life Is Strange for fun while working overnight shifts at my work office. One thing I noticed is just how many people mistook Max for Rachel in Episode 3 when she is wearing Rachel's plaid punk-rock outfit.
That's wonderful to think about. Rachel must have left an imprint on so many people in Arcadia Bay. A wide spectrum of people seem to say "Rachel????" when they see Max - Joyce, random trucker, Frank, even Nathan Prescott. Makes me sad to think she's gone.
That's wonderful to think about. Rachel must have left an imprint on so many people in Arcadia Bay. A wide spectrum of people seem to say "Rachel????" when they see Max - Joyce, random trucker, Frank, even Nathan Prescott. Makes me sad to think she's gone.
I actually felt really bad for Frank in that scene, the relationship between him and Rachel seemed like something very special from the small details we've seen of it -- despite Chloe's insistence that Frank meant nothing to her at every turn, makes me very glad I was able to get through that final Frank confrontation without having him killed or stabbed, although, she's super dead, so a melancholic ending is probably the most positive thing we're going to see out of that subplot.
thegodsend
Member
It wouldn't be the first time the dates have aligned between LiS and real life:
Oct 10th, 2013 was the day the Vortex pool party was on.
This is pretty cool!
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Deleted member 80556
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He's a sick person. He probably liked doing shit like that, and Rachel was probably special for him or something.
I think he's caught up in some shit. He's a victim in some way.
Baldwin_the_First
Member
So I just finished episode 4. WOW.
Did it end the same for everyone? Chloe got shot in the head by that hipster ass Jefferson in mine. Does she always dies?
To be honest, there wasn't really any giant twist for me, Jefferson being in it was sort of obvious from the moment we saw him argue with the principal, which was I think in the end of the episode where Kate tries (or does?) to kill herself. It also explained why the principal is a drunk and how the money wasn't reported stolen (if you did steal it like I did). Money was certainly given to him by the Prescott family so that he shuts his mouth.
The episode as a whole was great, from the beginning where we see chloe paralysed in a wheelchair and then asking Max to aid her in ending her suffering (which I refused to do), to discovering the photoshoot room and the dead body of Rachel. Hella ( lol ) heartwrenching episode.
Also I never should have made Max stop Warren from kicking that psychopath in the ribs, he deserved that shit tenfold.
I played the 4 episodes in 2 days, never expected that game to grasp me as much as it did. It's way darker than what I expected it to be too. Great game but I should have done myself a favor and start playing it when episode 5 was already out, the wait is going to suck big time.
Did it end the same for everyone? Chloe got shot in the head by that hipster ass Jefferson in mine. Does she always dies?
To be honest, there wasn't really any giant twist for me, Jefferson being in it was sort of obvious from the moment we saw him argue with the principal, which was I think in the end of the episode where Kate tries (or does?) to kill herself. It also explained why the principal is a drunk and how the money wasn't reported stolen (if you did steal it like I did). Money was certainly given to him by the Prescott family so that he shuts his mouth.
The episode as a whole was great, from the beginning where we see chloe paralysed in a wheelchair and then asking Max to aid her in ending her suffering (which I refused to do), to discovering the photoshoot room and the dead body of Rachel. Hella ( lol ) heartwrenching episode.
Also I never should have made Max stop Warren from kicking that psychopath in the ribs, he deserved that shit tenfold.
I played the 4 episodes in 2 days, never expected that game to grasp me as much as it did. It's way darker than what I expected it to be too. Great game but I should have done myself a favor and start playing it when episode 5 was already out, the wait is going to suck big time.
Baldwin_the_First
Member
Unless the game is deliberately trying to make it seem like the Prescott's is this whole fucked up family and that in the end it's just Jefferson using this as a cover, I'm pretty sure Nathan is also part of it, including his father. I'm sure the photo where he seems knocked up with Rachel is role play on his part.
Then again, I guess there could be some explanations if they intend to make Jefferson the evil mastermind behind all of this.
-Jefferson could possibly be threatening Nathan's father with that same picture where Nathan is with Rachel. Using him for whatever fetish he has knowing fully well his father would back him up the moment he's in deep with him after helping him once. I guess Jefferson would need some dirt on the Prescott's at first for it to work, but with Nathan and his bondage/torture fetish, drug problem and mental unstability, I wouldn't expect this to be out of reach for someone who's probably a pro at manipulation.
-Jeffersion could also simply be threatening Nathan with Victoria and her scholarship knowing that she's like a sister to him. Nathan most likely being already unstable and having all those fetish surrounding bondage and torture, again it wouldn't so hard to do with a bit of manipulation from Jefferson. It would also explain Nathan's descent in madness with that whole "rachel in the dark room" drawing.
There's also the fact that Nathan reacted to Max happily/surprisingly and calling her Rachel in the diner when he sees Max in Rachel's clothes. So he might be a part of the photoshoots, like getting the girls there and drugging them, but it would make sense in the end if he doesn't know Jefferson kills them, unless he's in denial.
Honestly, I would prefer the obvious path that the game is taking us with the Prescott family. Them being a part of it from the get go or maybe even before Nathan's time. Generations of Prescott's being fucked up and using their power/money to supress their needs and anger.
With Jefferson turning out to be a Prescott all along *DUN-DUN-DUUUUN music queu*
Not.
I listened to the "American Girls" song today (opening theme to Episode 1, it's actually called "To All Of You" by Syd Matters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwJqUbd1vzs)...
The fact they chose this song makes me really think this entire game is one huge love letter to American culture, more specifically high school / teenage culture, but also a love letter to American science fiction.
The fact they chose this song makes me really think this entire game is one huge love letter to American culture, more specifically high school / teenage culture, but also a love letter to American science fiction.
so when you decide who takes the blame for what drove kate to try killing herself, you had to pick between nathan, david, or mr jefferson.
if i picked jefferson, how would the outcome on episode 4 be? im sure itll be trhe same but would there be more interesting dialog that would make you think like jerfferson is in it? because holy shit that came from left field
if i picked jefferson, how would the outcome on episode 4 be? im sure itll be trhe same but would there be more interesting dialog that would make you think like jerfferson is in it? because holy shit that came from left field
I picked Jefferson because I concluded that he was presented way too innocent at the time, the game pushed so hard for the other two, so I picked him. There were only minor deviations, he didn't seem to take it too hard that I fucked him over. Didn't stop him from doing what he did.
slavesnyder
Member
Is it confirmed Rachel is in the plastic bag?
They did not open it, and I don't think it's the smell they recognized...
They did not open it, and I don't think it's the smell they recognized...
Keyser Soze
Member
Not confirmed, but there was most certainly a dead decaying body in the position they saw Rachel in the photo...so the only possibility that it is not Rachel is that the killer placed a dummy body there to fool the people who would know to look. Narratively that would be a big jump to make, so I choose to believe that was here, and Rachel Amber is dead.
Although, this is still a game about time travel, so theoretically something could happen to magic her back.
slavesnyder
Member
You are right. This would be too stupid.
She's dead but might come back.
For my taste this would be too sweet, though.
They are courageous enough to let daddy die one and for all, so no need to get Rachel back.
I wonder who will die or stay dead after the last credits have rollen. It cannot stay only with Rachel, Daddy and the plant, can it?
zer0blivion
Member
October 20, 11 more days
Great interview, loved it.