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Like Riddles? Then Solve this!
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Mermandala
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what is the sound of pimp hand slapping?
ban him
cubicle47b
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With the help of Excel I solved the Einstein riddle. It took me quite a while, mostly because the number of clues and attributes.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Mr Pockets said:
I really solved it. It took me like 5-10 minutes. I made 5 columns (1 for each house) and filled in the info bit by bit. Here are the steps I used. First the easy clues:
09. The Norwegian lives in the first house.... so I put "Norwegian" in column 1
14. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house...so I put "Blue" in column 2.
08. The man in the centre house drinks milk...so I put "Milk" in column 3.
Code:
HOUSE 1 HOUSE 2 HOUSE 3 HOUSE 4 HOUSE 5
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Norwegian
Blue
Milk05. The owner of the Green house drinks coffee....therefore house 4 is green because the person who lives in house 3 drinks milk. This also means that house 5 is white:
Code:
HOUSE 1 HOUSE 2 HOUSE 3 HOUSE 4 HOUSE 5
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Norwegian
Blue Green White
Milk Coffee
Code:
HOUSE 1 HOUSE 2 HOUSE 3 HOUSE 4 HOUSE 5
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Norwegian Brit
Blue Red Green White
Milk Coffee
Code:
HOUSE 1 HOUSE 2 HOUSE 3 HOUSE 4 HOUSE 5
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Norwegian Brit
Yellow Blue Red Green White
Milk Coffee
Dunhill
Code:
HOUSE 1 HOUSE 2 HOUSE 3 HOUSE 4 HOUSE 5
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Norwegian Brit
Yellow Blue Red Green White
Milk Coffee
Dunhill
Horses12. The man who smokes Blue Master drinks beer (only houses 2 and 5 are possible again)
So either the man in house 2 drinks tea and the man in house 5 drinks beer or vice versa...we aren't sure which yet.
15. The man who smokes Blends has a neighbour who drinks water....the only house without a beverage is house 1.... which means he drinks water and house 2 smokes Blends. Since house 2 smokes blends we now know that the man who smokes Blue Master has to be in house 5 and that the Dane lives in house 2. That leaves us with:
Code:
HOUSE 1 HOUSE 2 HOUSE 3 HOUSE 4 HOUSE 5
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Norwegian Dane Brit
Yellow Blue Red Green White
Water Tea Milk Coffee Beer
Dunhill Blends Blue Master
Horses02. The Swede keeps dogs as pets.... house 5 since thats the only house without an nationality:
Code:
HOUSE 1 HOUSE 2 HOUSE 3 HOUSE 4 HOUSE 5
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Norwegian Dane Brit German Swede
Yellow Blue Red Green White
Water Tea Milk Coffee Beer
Dunhill Blends Blue Master
Horses Dogs
Code:
HOUSE 1 HOUSE 2 HOUSE 3 HOUSE 4 HOUSE 5
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Norwegian Dane Brit German Swede
Yellow Blue Red Green White
Water Tea Milk Coffee Beer
Dunhill Blends Pall Mall Prince Blue Master
Horses Birds Dogs
Code:
HOUSE 1 HOUSE 2 HOUSE 3 HOUSE 4 HOUSE 5
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Norwegian Dane Brit German Swede
Yellow Blue Red Green White
Water Tea Milk Coffee Beer
Dunhill Blends Pall Mall Prince Blue Master
Cats Horses Birds DogsThis leaves us with just one pet left...the fish. So the german owns the fish!
I'll take a stab at it. The answer is 99/1/0 (assuming we're working with dollars only).
A proposes to C: Vote with me and we'll split the $100 50/50
B makes a counter-offer to C: Vote with me and we'll split the $100 51/49 in your favor.
A makes C an even better offer.
B sweetens the deal even more.
This continues until C gets a 99/1 deal in his favor from B. A won't respond with a counter-offer since that would leave him with no money. Consequently, C accepts B's deal.
A proposes to C: Vote with me and we'll split the $100 50/50
B makes a counter-offer to C: Vote with me and we'll split the $100 51/49 in your favor.
A makes C an even better offer.
B sweetens the deal even more.
This continues until C gets a 99/1 deal in his favor from B. A won't respond with a counter-offer since that would leave him with no money. Consequently, C accepts B's deal.
here are about 70 of these hilarotaining problems: http://home.g2a.net/~tmkohler/Logic.html
have fun!
have fun!
mashoutposse
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The Einstein one:
I forced myself to do it entirely in my head...
EDIT - I see this was already solved; nevertheless, it is a bit more difficult to do it without scrap paper.
The Germans?
I forced myself to do it entirely in my head...
EDIT - I see this was already solved; nevertheless, it is a bit more difficult to do it without scrap paper.
Son of Godzilla
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There's so many stupid things with the original "riddle" it's ridiculous. The claim that these scoundrels who claim to be the smartest in the country care most about money is retarded, especially a sum as piddly as $100. A scoundrel claiming to be the smartest would be more concerned with outsmarting the outher three than claiming the money. But their motivation is supposed to be getting the most money, instead of outwitting the other two? Why mention that they are the smartest in the country then? The "A simple vote wins" doesn't cut it either, because there is nothing to win. The $100 has already been handed over. They can simply take it and not split it.
Freestyler
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I solved the German one in about 5 seconds after reading it. I just knew for some reason that the German would have the fish.
JackFrost2012
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BAN! BAN! BAN!
Scalemail Ted
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Wow,
This thread has gotten out of hand.
Please, allow me to explain.
Four years ago I came across this site:
http://www.srainc.com/people/brentr/riddles.html
Being a fan of riddles, I sat down and solved all but a few of them...forgetting about them months later before ever completing them all. Just recently I happened across the same site full of the same riddles. Again I sat down attempting to figure out all the riddles.
Now all of the riddles that I've solved (on the site thus far) have had logical answers that can be explained...they, to my knowledge, have all been real riddles. But there persist this one riddle in the bunch that I could NEVER answer (four years ago or today). After turning the problem over in my head for a couple days now; I gave up and saught advice by posting it on the forum in hopes that someone else had heard the riddle and knew the solution.
It wasn't my intent to plagiarize the riddle (I thought citing the author would be sufficient) , I only wanted the solution because I became frustrated with it.
This thread has gotten out of hand.
Please, allow me to explain.
Four years ago I came across this site:
http://www.srainc.com/people/brentr/riddles.html
Being a fan of riddles, I sat down and solved all but a few of them...forgetting about them months later before ever completing them all. Just recently I happened across the same site full of the same riddles. Again I sat down attempting to figure out all the riddles.
Now all of the riddles that I've solved (on the site thus far) have had logical answers that can be explained...they, to my knowledge, have all been real riddles. But there persist this one riddle in the bunch that I could NEVER answer (four years ago or today). After turning the problem over in my head for a couple days now; I gave up and saught advice by posting it on the forum in hopes that someone else had heard the riddle and knew the solution.
It wasn't my intent to plagiarize the riddle (I thought citing the author would be sufficient) , I only wanted the solution because I became frustrated with it.
Scalemail Ted said:
Heh, that is the only site I came across that mentioned this riddle at all when I was trying to google the answer.
Edit:
HOLY SHIT, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SOLVED THE RIDDLE.
but don't get your hopes up, I'm going off on a wild limb here.
Knowing most riddles are fucking annoying, and try to throw out red herrings about how to go about thinking of them, I reread the riddle to look for words that are ambiguous. I think I found it in the phrase "what will the outcome be?" Notice it does not say anything about how much money does each person end up with. As several people have theorized, once one person gets shut out of an offer, they will always counter offer with someone trying to get in on the offer. There will never be a solution. Since they care about money more than anything (even food and water) they will sit there and argue until they are dead. That is the outcome. The end.
Okay, so take that with a grain of salt. Also note that it is five thirty in the morning, I am pretty much exhausted and having crazy thoughts and I just want to have this riddle over with, with some sort of conclusion. I am sure someone will disprove me by the time I wake up, but it is enough so that I can go to sleep at ease for now.
Scalemail Ted said:
No apologies? The compunctious nature of your reply betrays your internal regret. I demand you provide us with 3, nay, 5 completely original (and answerable) riddles as penance for this transgression. We, the GA masses are crass and petulant, and thirst for the blood our brothers in these black-hearted times.
EDIT: And after you present the 5, er, 7 golden riddles, you must chop this Ayn Rand book in 2. . .with a herring.
JackFrost2012
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When I did the Einstein riddle, I thought that the green house just had to be somewhere to the left of the white, not necessarily right beside it. So I made it the house of the Norwegian, the yellow at the end, and the white the one in the middle. I worked it out, it works, and you get the Dane as being the owner of the fish.
Nah, I just wanted to get the guy to own up to the real situation. I can see it worked.maharg said:
Next time, you should do two things: cite your source, and make it CLEAR that you don't know the answer to the riddle so that people don't get frustrated.I did a little bit more research on this "riddle," and I finally remembered what it sounded like: the so-called "Ultimatum Game" from experimental economics. For those of you who don't know the game, here is a good summary that I found:
Now, there are a couple of interesting things to take away from the UG. First, there is NO optimal strategy for an individual player to pursue. (When both players in a game are "rational" -- technical term -- and have an optimal strategy, then the outcome of the game is entirely predictable.) Second, the psychological aspect led to 50/50 being the most likely outcome.http://neuroeconomics.typepad.com/neuroeconomics/2003/09/what_is_the_ult.html said:
Interestingly enough, the three-person Ultimatum Game hasn't been studied very much -- probably because of complexity. You can read an interesting paper on the subject if you want.
Technically speaking, the "riddle" is NOT the same as the three-person UG: a UG, by definition, only offers the choices of accept or reject, not continued iterations. Still, I think it's pretty clear that there isn't a definitive solution to the problem.
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