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[Crayon]

How high on the steam survey are you guys hoping/fearing it's going to get on the steam survey anyhow? I figure 10% would be a big deal.

 

[Crayon]

No, you use Steam to change games

you stole my joke

 

[Kacho]

How high on the steam survey are you guys hoping/fearing it's going to get on the steam survey anyhow? I figure 10% would be a big deal.

Over what time frame? I reckon most of the recent growth is SteamOS so it will gradually go up over time as more devices drop. But that's a relatively small percentage in the grand scheme.

 

[Buggy Loop]

It's called a terminal, you have to be terminally retarded not to know it.

Its called command.exe since DOS then command prompt since the longest time for windows. Your UNIX equivalent would be Zsh and not the terminal, they are CLIs. A terminal is a fucking terminal app to call forth Zsh and bash, which is like calling cmd and powershell.

Terminal on UNIX is just a place to call forth shells, its a wrapper. Terminal in windows 11 is just to call cmd and powershell and so on too. You're just adding an extra layer over what everyone has been using for decades on PC. Out of all CLIs out there cmd is probably the simplest and most known. Debugging anything? It'll be cmd. Opening terminal in windows 11 is... cmd or powershell depending on how you set it up. You're just having multiple tabs of the legacy tools.

 

[kevboard]

Is that for real? Who would not type cmd ? Anyone not typing cmd for windows' terminal needs a slap behind the head.

for real... what kind of weirdo would type in terminal? absolute retard behaviour.

you press win > cmd > enter... anything else is a mental disorder

 

[adamsapple]

"Hey guys, I have some issues with my Linux distro."

"It's easy, just go into the terminal and fill in this code:"

Linux prompts be like sudo fuckyoself.

 

[kevboard]

sudo fuckyoself

I'll need your root password for that

 

[yurinka]

Linux is the future of gaming if Microsoft do not do something

Steam surveys say almost nobody plays on Linux.

Proton needs to continue improving to further support a way bigger percent of Windows games, particularly the ones with the kernel anticheats.

In any case, I think SteamOS is helping a lot and will do even more, once they have everything ready for the Steam Machine, and also once they open SteamOS to use it in any (or most) PCs.

 

[kevboard]

Steam surveys say almost nobody plays on Linux.

Proton needs to continue improving to further support a way bigger percent of Windows games, particularly the ones with the kernel anticheats.

In any case, I think SteamOS is helping a lot and will do even more, once they have everything ready for the Steam Machine, and also once they open SteamOS to use it in any (or most) PCs.

the anticheat situation will probably never get better. EA stopped support because it was apparently to easy to use cheats through proton.

I now set up Moonlight on my Deck to maybe play some of those games on the couch or in bed.

and fuck me... that shit has almost zero latency, even tho I only tested it with my PC on Wifi so far (I have an ethernet cable on hand but it wasn't connected). absolutely insane... and even more insane that Xbox, and especially Playstation remote play are still so laggy when Moonlight can do like 1 frame latency over really spotty wifi

 

[Crayon]

Over what time frame? I reckon most of the recent growth is SteamOS so it will gradually go up over time as more devices drop. But that's a relatively small percentage in the grand scheme.

Oh right, good question. I'll say 10% 5 years from now would be a big deal.

I think the numbers show recently that most the growth isn't steamos, though.

So I'm thinking narrowing down the addressable people would be first taking out the ones who aren't even comfortable reinstalling Windows. I don't know maybe that's like half? Then you need to look at people who would be comfortable learning a new OS, maybe that's half again. Then take out the ones who are on anti-cheek games, assuming that never gets fixed. And that's like 12%.

Wow this is some really shitty napkin math.

 

[Crayon]

Proton needs to continue improving to further support a way bigger percent of Windows games, particularly the ones with the

The anticheat ones are pretty much all that's left.

 

[Kacho]

I think the numbers show recently that most the growth isn't steamos, though.

When I say I recently, I mean over the past few years. I'm just going by things I read in passing.

The numbers are still being massively pumped up by the Steam Deck with SteamOS Linux, which is not surprising considering that the Steam Deck is still in the top 10 of the global top sellers on Steam constantly. And with all the rumours and leaks surrounding the upcoming Steam Frame, which will hopefully be a SteamOS Linux powered VR kit, we could see the numbers just continue to jump higher.

Linux gamers on Steam finally cross over the 3% mark

It finally happened. Linux gamers on Steam as of the Steam Hardware & Software Survey for October 2025 have crossed over the elusive 3% mark.

www.gamingonlinux.com

How soon would you estimate it hits 4%?

 

[jshackles]

Is that for real? Who would not type cmd ? Anyone not typing cmd for windows' terminal needs a slap behind the head.

why would anyone use windows search in the first place? Win + R for life.

 

[Fess]

They just want something to cry about.

They might just be young tbh.

Most here has walked this way through PC usage:
1. DOS
2. Windows, GUI ontop of DOS
3. Windows, do the fun stuff through a DOS prompt
4. Windows, do I even need DOS anymore?

Youngsters don't know DOS commands so they have no reason to go there.

It's the same with Linux tbh. But Linux is still at number 2. Those who grew up using Linux see no problem in the Linux experience.
The rest is like :
- What is this text crap?!
Or at best:
- Oh it's like DOS, cool I know this.
Wait… Nothing works! How do I even list files?!

 

[Mister Wolf]

They might just be young tbh.

Most here has walked this way through PC usage:
1. DOS
2. Windows, GUI ontop of DOS
3. Windows, fun stuff through a DOS prompt
4. Windows, do I even need DOS anymore?

Youngsters don't know DOS commands so they have no reason to go there.

It's the same with Linux tbh. But Linux is still at number 2. Those who grew up using Linux see no problem in the Linux experience.
The rest is like :
- What is this text crap?!
Or at best:
- Oh it's like DOS, cool I know this.
Wait… Nothing works! How do I even list files?!

I say cry because even in his search, Terminal was listed right there under apps. He even had the option to filter his search specifically for apps.

 

[kevboard]

why would anyone use windows search in the first place? Win + R for life.

windows search is built into the start menu. so you don't need win + r.... that's 1 completely useless key press basically.

why do win + r then type cmd and enter, instead of only pressing win and type cmd and enter? same result, 1 less key.
same with regedit btw.

 

[TheSHEEEP]

I've read a few posts here mentioning using chatgpt to ferret out issues so I tried it last weekend. I had some lines that spit out error when updating cachyos. That is the kind of thing I've seen many times over the last 10 years and I just ignore it. So seemed like a good test case. And the ai just asked for the logs, chewed em right up, explained what was happening and told me what to do.

I always warn people though, do not copy-paste shit into your terminal unless you can parse the commands at least in a very basic way and have an idea of what's going to happen. At least look at it lol. Too many people paste in a "fix" without even looking at the shit.

Absolutely this.

When it comes to AI use: It is great as a tool - if, and only if, you already know what you are doing.
It can save you massive amounts of time, but it will backfire spectacularly or even waste a lot of your time if you just blindly follow its "advice" because you don't understand anything about the topic.

 

[Trilobit]

Linux prompts be like sudo fuckyoself.

Yeah, I understand that to a Linux user it all makes sense, but imagine making your first foray into that world and getting this:

 

[wisozp]

This person built a os from scratch with the help from claude https://isene.org/2025/11/SimplicityOS.html
I was able to get this up and runing within steamos desktop with help from claude, Yes Iam shilling for claude and steamdeck.
Things like this IS why steamdeck worth it's weight in gold.

##YOUR WORRANTY IS NOW VOID, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR STEAMDECK BRICKING, RUNNING SLOW, OR BITING YOUR CAT!!
YOU WILL NEED TO ADJUST DIRECTORIES >> [lsblk in terminal is your friend, also install yazi or nnn]
IAM ON WAYLAND IN DESKTOP AND USING BTRFS, IT SHOULD RUN THE SAME ON X11## PLEASE CONSULT CLAUDE FOR FURTHER ASSISTANCE!!##

The main goal of Distrobox is not focused on sandboxing the containers from the host. Due to the tight integration nature of the project, complete isolation is not possible as containers running inside Distrobox will have full access to your home folder and application directories.
It is recommended to use Podman over Docker since by default Docker will run containers as root and rootful containers will have unrestricted access to your hosts filesystem. Rootless Docker is currently not working though is being worked on.


1///

# Check for Podman
which podman
podman --version

# Check for Distrobox
which distrobox
distrobox --version

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YOU RUN EXTERNAL DRIVE ON STEAMDECK AND NEED OVERLAY
The external drive might be mounted with restrictive options. Check mount options:

mount | grep [sda1] << change this to your drive after runing lsblk
IF YOU SEE noexec, nosuid, nodev

If your drive is mounted with >>nosuid<< and >>nodev<< flags, which prevent Podman's overlay storage from working properly. These flags are set automatically by udisks2 for removable drives as a security measure.

Overlay:

Faster, more efficient
Requires suid and dev mount flags
Won't work on your external drive unless remounted with said flags


VFS:

Slower, uses more disk space
Works on drives with nosuid and nodev
Perfect for your situation

If You Really Want Overlay (Advanced):
You'd need to manually mount the drive with different flags manually.##

If Still Having Issues after nosuid and nodev:
The external drive might be mounted with restrictive options. Check mount options:

Alternative: Check SELinux/AppArmor Context (Unlikely but Possible)
# Check if SELinux is enforcing
getenforce
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


2///

# Unmount the udisks2 mount
udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sda2

# Create mount point
sudo mkdir -p /mnt/btrfs-data

# Mount WITHOUT nosuid/nodev for overlay support
sudo mount -o rw,noatime,ssd,discard=async,space_cache=v2,subvolid=5,subvol=/ /dev/sda2 /mnt/btrfs-data

# Check your data is there (make sure it does not say permission denied)
ls -la /mnt/btrfs-data/

# Create container storage alongside your existing data
mkdir -p /mnt/btrfs-data/containers/storage
mkdir -p /mnt/btrfs-data/containers/cache

# Configure Podman for Overlay [IAM USING OVERLAY IF YOU PLAN TO USE VFS CHANGE driver = "vfs"]
nano ~/.config/containers/storage.conf


[storage]
driver = "overlay"
graphroot = "/mnt/btrfs-data/containers/storage"
runroot = "/run/user/1000/containers"

[storage.options]
additionalimagestores = []

# Edit .bashrc to update cache location
nano ~/.bashrc
export DISTROBOX_CACHE_DIR="/mnt/btrfs-data/containers/cache"

# Apply it:
source ~/.bashrc

# Reset Podman to use new overlay config
podman system reset

# Create container with overlay!
distrobox create --name dev --image archlinux:latest
# Type 'y' to pull


Step 8: Verify Overlay is Working

# Check storage driver
podman info | grep graphDriverName
# Should output: graphDriverName: overlay

Create a Mount Script for Easy Access

nano ~/mount-btrfs-overlay.sh

#!/bin/bash

# Unmount if mounted by Dolphin
if mountpoint -q /run/media/deck/680fdeed-61d3-4018-bafb-279ba46e8c09; then
echo "Unmounting Dolphin's mount..."
udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sda2
fi

# Create mount point
sudo mkdir -p /mnt/btrfs-data

# Mount with overlay-compatible flags (no nosuid/nodev)
echo "Mounting /dev/sda2 with overlay support..."
sudo mount -o rw,noatime,ssd,discard=async,space_cache=v2,subvolid=5,subvol=/ /dev/sda2 /mnt/btrfs-data

echo "✓ Btrfs mounted at /mnt/btrfs-data with overlay support"
echo "✓ Your data: /mnt/btrfs-data/aria2, /mnt/btrfs-data/EmuDeck"
echo "✓ Containers: /mnt/btrfs-data/containers"

# Make executable:
chmod +x ~/mount-btrfs-overlay.sh

Your Workflow:
bash# When you want to use containers:
~/mount-btrfs-overlay.sh

# Enter dev environment
distrobox enter dev

# When done (optional unmount):
sudo umount /mnt/btrfs-data


AFTER SETUP >>

Step 1: Enter the Container
bashdistrobox enter dev

Step 2: Install Development Tools

Once inside the container:

# Update system
sudo pacman -Syu

# Install QEMU and build tools for SimplicityOS
sudo pacman -S qemu-full make nasm git base-devel

# Optional: other useful tools
sudo pacman -S vim neovim htop

Step 3: Clone and Build SimplicityOS
bash# Clone the repo
cd ~
git clone https://github.com/isene/SimplicityOS
cd SimplicityOS

# Build and run!
make
make run

Quick Test Inside Container:

# Verify you're in Arch Linux
cat /etc/os-release

# Check QEMU is installed
qemu-system-x86_64 --version

# Your home directory is accessible
ls ~
# Should show your Steam Deck home folder contents

Useful Commands Going Forward:
# Exit container
exit

# Re-enter anytime
distrobox enter dev

# Or create an alias (add to ~/.bashrc)
alias dev="distrobox enter dev"
# Then just type: dev

# List containers
distrobox list

# Stop container
distrobox stop dev

"Yeah, I understand that to a Linux user it all makes sense, but imagine making your first foray into that world and getting this" I have zero coding and i can pull this off with the help of AI and I dont belive It would be too hard for a new user to pull off what you showing.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Linux prompts be like sudo fuckyoself.

The biggest shit in Linuxes.

sudo apt get
sudo apt install
sudo dnf install
sudo pacman... freaking PACMAN

Why can't they make a universal command for everyone??? -_-zzz

 

[Soren01]

The biggest shit in Linuxes.

sudo apt get
sudo apt install
sudo dnf install
sudo pacman... freaking PACMAN

Why can't they make a universal command for everyone??? -_-zzz

Because it's not just OS fanboys. You have distro fanboys too

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

I saw the fall of Nokia phones. I saw the fall of IBM. I saw the fall of Atari.

it doesn't matter how dominant you are, you can always fall. And the first step to failure, is to act like you are invincible.

 

[RafterXL]

If someone would take charge of Linux and get their act together, currently Windows is ripe for disruption

But you know...it's Linux lol

And this right here is why Linux will never be a player in the OS space. This person bitching about Windows is literally too stupid to use Linux. And guess what?...that's most people. If you can't figure out how to stop Windows Search from accessing the web, you wouldn't last a week with Linux. For all the shit people give Windows it's significantly easier to use, fix and troubleshoot. Even honest Linux users will tell you this. In fact, 99% of the things people complain about with Windows are fixable and not just fixable, easily and quickly fixable. And Linux bros will tell you that they "shouldn't have to do that" and then turn around and use an OS that they are constantly dealing with hardware/software issues or limitations that take every bit as much time, and more, than what they'd have to do on Windows.

This is what I see when I search "terminal" and it's a 5 second fix that you could pull up in Google and find instantly.



This dude is still using Co-pilot, still using web search and people think the average computer user, much less gamer, is going to be able to handle an OS where hardware/software/configuration issues far exceed anything you will see on Windows? Even getting past gaming performance, which is a non-starter for many of us, you are never going to solve the issue with the population at large. You've got 50 different distros, which means zero consistency, and then you combine that with a million different configurations of hardware, and it's a recipe for disaster for the average Joe. The saving grace of the Steam Deck and Steam Machines are that they are a curated set of specific hardware running on a tailored Linux OS to suit that hardware. That's not a thing in the wider PC market and the average dude, like in that Tweet, clearly aren't equipped to deal with that.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Its called command.exe since DOS then command prompt since the longest time for windows. Your UNIX equivalent would be Zsh and not the terminal, they are CLIs. A terminal is a fucking terminal app to call forth Zsh and bash, which is like calling cmd and powershell.

Terminal on UNIX is just a place to call forth shells, its a wrapper. Terminal in windows 11 is just to call cmd and powershell and so on too. You're just adding an extra layer over what everyone has been using for decades on PC. Out of all CLIs out there cmd is probably the simplest and most known. Debugging anything? It'll be cmd. Opening terminal in windows 11 is... cmd or powershell depending on how you set it up. You're just having multiple tabs of the legacy tools.

Now, here is a hint for you, in modern windows what you have is a terminal, where you can call different shells, CMD is but one of them.

Anyway, this is not the point, the problem is that when the person typed terminal to find the app Windows took upon itself to recommend a movie, which is retarded as a move for an OS... This is one of the reasons why people install Linux in the 1st place.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

This is what I see when I search "terminal" and it's a 5 second fix that you could pull up in Google and find instantly.

Why do you even need to fix it?

And why do I need to fix a million little things that are there to prey on people who don't know any better when I install Windows?

This is all self inflicted upon themselves too, as a way to abuse people, take every single penny they can by taking our time and attention hostage.

 

[RafterXL]

Why do you even need to fix it?

And why do I need to fix a million little things that are there to prey on people who don't know any better when I install Windows?

This is all self inflicted upon themselves too, as a way to abuse people, take every single penny they can by taking our time and attention hostage.

Like clockwork:

And Linux bros will tell you that they "shouldn't have to do that" and then turn around and use an OS that they are constantly dealing with hardware/software issues or limitations that take every bit as much time, and more, than what they'd have to do on Windows.

 

[SappYoda]

Linux gaming has been improving really fast while windows has been slowly getting worse. There's a lot of ground to cover still, mostly at fault of gpu manufacturers which is going to be a big hurdle.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Like clockwork:

Not even comparable, the things I have to deal with on Linux are once and done affairs, not the result of dark design patterns.

This is not like I had much to deal with in the 1st place.

 

[rodrigolfp]

This is one of the reasons why people install Linux in the 1st place.

Turn off Copilot is much faster.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Turn off Copilot is much faster.

You don't just turn off Windows features, this is not a thing.

 

[Sonik]

I always warn people though, do not copy-paste shit into your terminal unless you can parse the commands at least in a very basic way and have an idea of what's going to happen. At least look at it lol. Too many people paste in a "fix" without even looking at the shit.

The big improvement with ChatGPT isn't that you can now fix Linux problems, Linux fans are such huge nerds that I can guarantee there's a forum solution to every. single. problem. (unlike Microsoft forums' solutions like "hAvE yOU trIEd uPDatInG wINdoWs???") The real improvement is that ChatGPT is a basic layer of security to avoid malware or something that could potentially fuck up your installation even though in all my years as a professional Linux copy paster I never faced such problem

Honestly, it almost too simple now, even the dumbest guy can just copy paste code from ChatGPT safely and solve 95% of the problems, well, except if your problem is drivers. Then good luck friend, you're fucked

 

[rodrigolfp]

You don't just turn off Windows features, this is not a thing.

You do.

The Ultimate Windows Utility

Having Fun with Technology

christitus.com

 

[Crayon]

When I say I recently, I mean over the past few years. I'm just going by things I read in passing.

Linux gamers on Steam finally cross over the 3% mark

It finally happened. Linux gamers on Steam as of the Steam Hardware & Software Survey for October 2025 have crossed over the elusive 3% mark.

www.gamingonlinux.com

How soon would you estimate it hits 4%?

It's on a trend now, and if steam machine is launching in ~4 months, linux will be on youtube thumbnails a lot. So people will be trying, and I think there are enough that can pull it off right now to stick with it and get another percent. Maybe a year? idk. Wild guessing.

 

[LimanimaPT]

Linux is the present of tech nerds but will never be the future average joes.

 

[Nintendo's Witch]

I would build a fucking PC after 20 years is this becomes true. But I reeeeealy doubt it.