Private Hoffman
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segarr said:
~20 people over the course of 2 years
in other words, far less than most games
LittleBigAgendas: Why didn't the mass market overlook LBP?
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~20 people over the course of 2 years
in other words, far less than most games
Phife Dawg
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Not that I know how much it cost to make, but they started in January '06 with the project.Private Hoffman said:
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I am quoting this again since i just tried to play my sister's level again and i see that the number of plays went up. I was pretty sure that the number of plays didnt go up earlier when i tried to play her level more than 1 time in a row, but it might have been due to that i played 2 player with my sister and that she was the host (if you play your own levels then the play count wont go up (unless there is some lag on the server that doesnt update the number of plays at once), i just checked that myself. You can however heart your own levelsMeier said:
) or that i overlooked something earlier. In this case, that level that had i.e over 700.000 plays might be played several of times by several of same users indeed. I am sorry for the missunderstanding!EDIT: I fixed a typo
Barkley's Justice
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anyone notice how many instances of "Playstation" is on the cover?
no less than 4. is this a playstation game?? can anyone clarify that for me?
no less than 4. is this a playstation game?? can anyone clarify that for me?
Barkley's Justice said:anyone notice how many instances of "Playstation" is on the cover?
no less than 4. is this a playstation game?? can anyone clarify that for me?
Technically I think there are 3, which is no more than my Halo 3 box. Unless you count the logos, in which both would have 4. No point in being this nitpicky.
Count Dookkake
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Sounds like the overlooking has continued over Black Friday.
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Speaking from a retail standpoint, I haven't sold a single copy of LBP in over two weeks and I work almost every day. It's so strange. At work we always talk it up whenever someone asks about it, but nobody seems to bite.
Wait, I did sell one today at last, to a girl. But still. We got in about 70 copies at launch, and still haven't sold out of that shipment.
Wait, I did sell one today at last, to a girl. But still. We got in about 70 copies at launch, and still haven't sold out of that shipment.
Private Hoffman
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Dave Long said:
It's a good thing the game comes with a game.
Majima Everywhere System
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Private Hoffman said:
It's a bad thing the game it comes with is a game from 1985.
Ok, that one was just for laughs.
Clinton514
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Damn, I smell a lot of presumptuous bull in this thread.
edit: Why don't we start using -censored and for good reason - as a source while we're at it. :\
edit: Why don't we start using -censored and for good reason - as a source while we're at it. :\
Zombie James
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Woo-Fu said:
Count Dookkake
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Woo-Fu said:
No, I was reading the retail musings thread.Private Hoffman
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Count Dookkake said:
I bet you're soooo happy!!!!!!!
Count Dookkake
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Private Hoffman said:
Being right is nice every now and then. Doesn't happen too often.
We'll see what happens the rest of the season.
Private Hoffman
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Count Dookkake said:
How were you right? Because 1 person's retail account on black friday?
Count Dookkake
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Private Hoffman said:
There is a big clue in the third sentence of my previous post.
First of all I think this game will sell to a degree. If they can sell Heavenly Sword they can sell LBP.
Secondly does any one agree with me that LBP's price point is too high? It should be a $40 game game, or at least a $50 one with more tie in/coupon deals. Nintondo do that alot with their heavy hitters. There was bestbuy/TRU deals for Twlight Princess and SMG.
I see there are some cross promotion with Amazon but I think there can be more. And it's such a family friendly game it should be cheaper. Hell my brain can't explain to me why LBP is being sold at a premium and HOME is free, which to me as a casual PS3-only gamer, push pretty much the same thing, which is community gaming. If HOME give me more freedom to create presistance shit in my own "aprtment", ain't I getting the same kind of sand box enjoyment I am getting from of LBP's user generated content?
Also, anyone remember when LBP was announced way way back in GDC, it was supposed to come out in download only first and then disc based later? Which is GT's model. Why isn't it out in PSN? Obviously they don't want to sell it at $40 and lose the money. This is no good. Sony can't money pinching their long term game. I think this is a wrong move. LBP should be like HOME, install on as many PS3 hard drive as possible.
Secondly does any one agree with me that LBP's price point is too high? It should be a $40 game game, or at least a $50 one with more tie in/coupon deals. Nintondo do that alot with their heavy hitters. There was bestbuy/TRU deals for Twlight Princess and SMG.
I see there are some cross promotion with Amazon but I think there can be more. And it's such a family friendly game it should be cheaper. Hell my brain can't explain to me why LBP is being sold at a premium and HOME is free, which to me as a casual PS3-only gamer, push pretty much the same thing, which is community gaming. If HOME give me more freedom to create presistance shit in my own "aprtment", ain't I getting the same kind of sand box enjoyment I am getting from of LBP's user generated content?
Also, anyone remember when LBP was announced way way back in GDC, it was supposed to come out in download only first and then disc based later? Which is GT's model. Why isn't it out in PSN? Obviously they don't want to sell it at $40 and lose the money. This is no good. Sony can't money pinching their long term game. I think this is a wrong move. LBP should be like HOME, install on as many PS3 hard drive as possible.
Private Hoffman
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Tobor said:
Just because MS has changed their strategy doesn't necessarily mean that Sony should follow.
I'm not entirely sure if their $40 pricing for Viva Pinata 2 and Banjo is a good move for them (in the sense that it will spur tremendous sales for either title). I don't see either title pushing a whole lot of units, and it seems to me that these games cater to a hardcore subset of the Xbox audience that would likely buy it for $60 regardless.
I do not see Banjo coming near LBP's sales this holiday season, even at a price that is heavily discounted.
Loudninja said:
Because (unfortunately) platformers are niche these days. Games with guns and cars always sell better, and the best way to get people to TRY something and realize just how awesome it is, is to come in at a lower price point. 40$ gets the game under some trees when parents are thinking "well maybe we can afford just one more game." etc...
I hate to say it, but LBP is not a game you can sell without people experiencing it. You can't just show a few videos or some footage on TV and have someone go "That looks neat." It needs to be experienced firsthand and a lower price point helps that word of mouth. Katamari Damacy is a great example of the lower pricepoint/ word of mouth model.
One last thing to mention is that the Monty Python-esque European aesthetics don't appeal to everyone. I enjoy the visual style but I can hardly say it's mainstream.
Segata Sanshiro
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It's too early to make any sort of conclusions about the sales of those games.Loudninja said:
I'm sure it's been said somewhere in this thread, but Sony should bundle LBP with the console. Once everyone has it, there will be so much demand for the sequel. That's why Wii Sports Resort will sell probably 10 million copies...well, maybe not that many. But close.
Still, I want to see what happens with November and December NPD. Could be a big Christmas seller. If I had a PS3 I'd want it for Christmas.
Still, I want to see what happens with November and December NPD. Could be a big Christmas seller. If I had a PS3 I'd want it for Christmas.
Private Hoffman
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Tobor said:
'Far better' is questionable.
Better, ABSOLUTELY. better enough to make up for the lost $20? Probably not.
Fourth Storm
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Forgive me if this has been mentioned already, but here are my thoughts. 1) It's on a platform that has an image of "teh mature," while it's presentation has much less baditude than Ratchet and Clank, much less God of War. 2) Platformers without recognizable mascots are hard to sell. Quality of game matters much less than the cast of characters. Look at recent Crash Bandicoot games for an example of that.
Segata Sanshiro
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The existence of this humongous thread really does boggle my mind, though. It's waaaaaaaaaaay too early to talk about this game's sales, except to say that based on the data we do have, the game is not a 'bomb' in any sense of the word, nor is it a 'megahit'.
Where it falls between those two extremes, we're going to have to wait a while to find out. It's all premature as hell until then.
Where it falls between those two extremes, we're going to have to wait a while to find out. It's all premature as hell until then.
Private Hoffman
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Puck said:
Obviously, especially when he compared LBP to ET as one of the biggest gaming bombs of all time.
CowGirl said:
I fucking love you, you know that.bishoptl said:
I'm still puzzled by the thread though, I think that the game will definitely have legs and it's too early to tell imo. There's nothing more I want that the mass market gobbling up this game, because it deserves as much sales as it can get. Definitely a breath of fresh air and creativity for me as well as my friends.
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