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Looking for fantasy/scifi novel recommendations

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So I've been reading a bunch of fantasy/scifi lately and I'm looking for more.

Here's what I've read/am reading and liked:

Fantasy
Raven's Shadow Trilogy
Malazan Empire series (got to book 9, taking a break)
Chronicle of the Unhewn Throne trilogy
Gentleman Bastard Sequence
Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire
The Black Company
The First Law Trilogy
Dune

Scifi
Takeshi Kovacs Trilogy
The Star Fraction
Commonwealth Saga/The Void Trilogy
Hyperion series
Ancillary Justice (only read the first one, heard the rest of the series wasn't as good)
Solaris
Neuromancer
Three Body Problem
Player of Games (Culture saga)

Wasn't a huge fan of:
Brandon Sanderson (read a bunch of his stuff, just not a huge fan)
Theft of Swords
Prince of Thorns
Swordspoint
The Mote in God's Eye (maybe just didn't get far enough)
The Name of the Wind (hated it, never reading another Patrick Rothfuss novel)
Snow Crash (hated it)
 

Ratrat

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Based on the list, The Witcher series for fantasy, The Culture series for SF.

Also:
Quantum Thief
Vorkosigan Saga
Bas Lag books by China Mieville

There are too many good SF books to recommend so I'll stop here.
 

Kieli

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A group of mercenaries are hired by the Dark Forces of Evil to fight the good guys, and realize they've gotten way in over their heads.
 
Wheel of Time and the Dark Tower

Based on the list, The Witcher series for fantasy, The Culture series for SF.

Thanks for the recommendations! I've actually read a couple of the Dark Tower books, I really liked them but got burned out on them. I've never read any of The Wheel of Time books though, I'll check that out! Same for The Witcher (dabbled in the games, never read any of the novels).

Is there a guide to The Culture series? Is there a list of good ones or should they just be read in publication order or what? The only one I've read was The Player of Games (liked it, forgot to ever dig deeper into the series).
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Was gonna recommend Hyperion, see you've listed it already. Good man.

Have you read Dune? It's incredible.

Also, you might enjoy:

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Of those books you've read, which was your favorite btw?
 
Read schismatrix by Bruce sterling.

Was gonna recommend Hyperion, see you've listed it already. Good man.

Have you read Dune? It's incredible.

Also, you might enjoy:

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Of those books you've read, which was your favorite btw?

Thanks! I actually have read Dune (just the first book) and really enjoyed it. For fantasy, my favorites are probably the Malazan and Game of Thrones series. For scifi I like all those books for different reasons (tons of different things to focus on in scifi) but my favorites are probably the Hyperion series, Neuromancer, and the Commonwealth Saga.

I'm about to start Remembrance of Earth's Past based on recommendations by some friends. See if it tickles your curiosity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three-Body_Problem

:D

Also, one more to wrap up mainline Malazan series man! Almost there!

Haha I know, I'm so close! I kinda marathoned through the series, so by the time I was reading book 9 I was a bit burnt out on the world though. I actually did read the first book in The Three Body problem and really liked it, I've been waiting for the third book to come out so that I can marathon the rest of the series. Thanks for the rec, sorry I forgot to list that one!
 
Thanks for the recommendations! I've actually read a couple of the Dark Tower books, I really liked them but got burned out on them. I've never read any of The Wheel of Time books though, I'll check that out! Same for The Witcher (dabbled in the games, never read any of the novels).

Is there a guide to The Culture series? Is there a list of good ones or should they just be read in publication order or what? The only one I've read was The Player of Games (liked it, forgot to ever dig deeper into the series).

People recommend going by publication order usually, but the first book is easily skippable (and luckily you've skipped it). Use of Weapons is next and it is pretty incredible.
 
Old Man's War and The Ghost Brigades.

Make what you will of the rest of Scalzi's books in that series though. OMW and TGB are super fun reads.
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Thanks! I actually have read Dune (just the first book) and really enjoyed it. For fantasy, my favorites are probably the Malazan and Game of Thrones series. For scifi I like all those books for different reasons (tons of different things to focus on in scifi) but my favorites are probably the Hyperion series, Neuromancer, and the Commonwealth Saga.



Haha I know, I'm so close! I kinda marathoned through the series, so by the time I was reading book 9 I was a bit burnt out on the world though. I actually did read the first book in The Three Body problem and really liked it, I've been waiting for the third book to come out so that I can marathon the rest of the series. Thanks for the rec, sorry I forgot to list that one!

For some reason I thought you'd list Dune under sci-fi. I see it's there under fantasy. My bad.

My recommendation remains, however!
 

Aselith

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Magician is really good classical fantasy with a twist. I recently reread it and enjoyed it as much as an adult man as I did as a kid. I really like his world overall and it's a big series so it should keep you reading for a while.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0007466862/?tag=neogaf0e-20

It's actually two novels, Apprentice and Master, but I would get the combined novel if you can as they are really one book.
 
Geek Love by a country mile.

You'll never read anything as gross or as imaginative as it. And no, it has nothing to do with nerds. Geeks are the performers who bite the heads off live chickens.
 
People recommend going by publication order usually, but the first book is easily skippable (and luckily you've skipped it). Use of Weapons is next and it is pretty incredible.

Thanks for the info! I'll definitely check out more of The Culture series, really enjoyed Player of Games

Alastair Reynolds.

The Sagas of the Icelanders - Yes its not a novel but it's good stuff.

Old Man's War and The Ghost Brigades.

Make what you will of the rest of Scalzi's books in that series though. OMW and TGB are super fun reads.

Magician is really good classical fantasy with a twist. I recently reread it and enjoyed it as much as an adult man as I did as a kid. I really like his world overall and it's a big series so it should keep you reading for a while.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0007466862/?tag=neogaf0e-20

It's actually two novels, Apprentice and Master, but I would get the combined novel if you can as they are really one book.

Geek Love by a country mile.

You'll never read anything as gross or as imaginative as it. And no, it has nothing to do with nerds. Geeks are the performers who bite the heads off live chickens.

Thanks! I've added all these to my wishlist.

For some reason I thought you'd list Dune under sci-fi. I see it's there under fantasy. My bad.

My recommendation remains, however!

Haha actually it's my bad, I added that in to the OP after you mentioned it (I've been doing that with most of the books I've read and forgot to mention). I just remember that book more as fantasy than scifi, but it could probably go as either.
 

Laekon

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The Expanse series is good and will hopefully be a successful TV series on Sci-fi channel soon. Scalzi Old Man's War series is an easy entertaining read.
 

mdubs

Banned
Not fantasy or sci-fi, but I finished Shogun by James Clavell today and it has the sort of historical epic scope that many fantasy series have.
 

Pilgrimzero

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Not fantasy or sci-fi, but I finished Shogun by James Clavell today and it has the sort of historical epic scope that many fantasy series have.

I'm about 3/4 through this. Super long but good. The old mini series on tv was good too.


My recommendation: Dresden Files
 

Ratrat

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People recommend going by publication order usually, but the first book is easily skippable (and luckily you've skipped it). Use of Weapons is next and it is pretty incredible.
Yes. Consider Phlebas isn't very good and probably turned a lot of people off. I started with Use of Weapons.
Not fantasy or sci-fi, but I finished Shogun by James Clavell today and it has the sort of historical epic scope that many fantasy series have.
This is a dreadful book. But it definitely should be in the fantasy section with the all non sense it contains.
 

sans_pants

avec_pénis
the stars my destination
the demolished man
more than human
chocky

hard to be a god
roadside picnic
solaris

the diamond age
the left hand of darkness
first ringworld book
 
You need some Farseer in your life. If you want sci-fi you can't go wrong with Asminov's classic books, just pretend the later ones didn't happen.
 
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The Deathgate cycle is a fave of mine.
 

mdubs

Banned
This is a dreadful book. But it definitely should be in the fantasy section with the all non sense it contains.

Curious what you thought was so bad about it. Interestingly scholars from Columbia writing a 90 page paper on it thought that it was actually pretty accurate as far as the customs of the time were concerned aside from the obvious fictional liberties taken with some of the historical aspects. I can see his writing style being off-putting for some, as well as the pacing (I didn't mind it)
 

Sanctuary

Member
The death gate cycle by weis and Hickman. First book is dragon wing. There are seven

Well, since you name dropped them...

Dragonlance Chronicles, Legends and The War of Souls trilogies. Although, I'm not sure who hasn't read these already.

And uh, pretty much any and all related Drizzt books. But who hasn't read these already?

The Seeker books aren't bad either.

None of these are really "super serious", and mostly high fantasy though.
 

Ratrat

Member
Curious what you thought was so bad about it. Interestingly scholars from Columbia writing a 90 page paper on it thought that it was actually pretty accurate as far as the customs of the time were concerned aside from the obvious fictional liberties taken with some of the historical aspects. I can see his writing style being off-putting for some, as well as the pacing (I didn't mind it)
Its actually decent as a piece of entertainment writing-wise and there were great setpieces throughout. But ignoring the white saviour/orientalism wankery, the Japanese dialogue in the book is so atrocious as to make me think he consulted a 5-year old. You could probably write well over 90 pages of whats wrong with it, from the historic details to the themes, but thats for another thread.
 

Astaereth

Member
Two fantasy recs.

1 - The Magicians trilogy by Lev Grossman (kind of like Harry Potter meets The Catcher in the Rye--beautiful and funny writing, phenomenal worldbuilding), some of my favorite books ever.

2 - Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell is, I think, one of the best fantasy novels since Lord of the Rings, an impossibly deep, rich read about the return of English magic.
 

Blizzard

Banned
The Zones of Thought trilogy by Vernor Vinge, or at least A Fire upon the Deep, and A Deepness in the Sky. I put them up there with Hyperion.
I was going to post this, so I'll just echo this scifi recommendation. They are some of the most stick-in-your-mind scifi books I've read, and the author really dreams huge. The alien races are pretty unique instead of humanoid, also.
 

Mumei

Member
I haven't read a lot of the series you have read (some, but not many), so this is kind of a stab in the dark for me! These aren't in any order, really, just as I thought of them.

The Goblin Emperor, by Katherine Addison

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The Goblin Emperor is the antithesis of grimdark. It's sweet and hopeful and optimistic and humane and an absolute breath of fresh air in the midst of all the dark-and-darke elements that fantasy so often presents. It's one of my favorite novels in recent memory, and the protagonist in particular is a stand-out.

Vorkosigan Saga, by Lois McMaster Bujold

Start here:


If you like those, you should continue with The Warrior's Apprentice. You could also go with the omnibus editions; if you go that route then you should start with the collection Cordelia's Honor which includes both Shards of Honor and Barrayar.

World of the Five Gods series, by Lois McMaster Bujold

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Excellent character-driven fantasy. It is followed by several other novels and novellas set in the same world, some of which take place around the same time and some of which take place hundreds of years earlier or later. It's a series where it isn't at all necessary to read straight through; each one is self-contained.

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quinkles suggested this to me when I solicited him for reading ideas, and it was fantastic so you should also try it. It is a series that gets much better over the different books, or at least I thought so. McKillip also has a wonderfully light touch with her prose, and some of the best depictions of magic in fantasy. It manages to capture that feeling that a lot of fantasy strives for, of seeming to be something out of myth or legend.

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Fantastic debut novel that came out a few years ago. It's a great blending of historical fiction, folkltale, myth, urban fantasy, and coming-to-america immigrant's tale. Personally I felt that the ending was a bit weak, but it only knocked it out of the running for "one of my favorite books ever" and had to settle for merely being one of my favorite books of the year. Tragic, I know.


A novel about the return of English magic (and also racial and gender oppression), as told through the eyes of two rival magicians in England during the Napoleonic Wars. It's probably the best representation of "magic" in fantasy that I've read, specifically of capturing that feeling of the numinous. It's a tremendously difficult thing to do; for me only a bare handful of authors have made magic feel magical in that way, and JS&MN is probably the best at it. It's also cleverly written, thematically dense, and blackly humorous!

Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell also had a BBC television adaptation recently, and while it is a lot of fun it doesn't do quite do justice to the book.

Fairyland (series), by Catherynne M. Valente

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Exactly what it says on the tin. It's charming, intelligent, and absolutely delightful. Personally, I think the author does the best job describing it, so if you want to be sold on it you should read what she said about it.

A Dirge for Prester John (series), by Catherynne M. Valente

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If you enjoy Fairyland but want something written with an adult (not in the crude sense, just the reading-level sense) audience in mind! She also talked about the first novel in this series, A Habitation for the Blessed, here.


I know you don't like Rothfuss so just ignore that quote on the front. The Last Unicorn is a beautiful, whimisical, melancholic little fairy tale of a novel, the sort of story that stays with you after you've read it. It's a classic.

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Another classic! If you have seen the Disney film The Sword in the Stone, it's actually a surprisingly faithful treatment (all things considered) of the first quarter of the book. But it doesn't include the rest of the book, with its much richer emotional palette. If you like it, it should also inspire you to read Helen MacDonald's H is for Hawk, which prominently features T.H. White.


The Book of the New Sun is actually probably not the Gene Wolfe fantasy novel I would recommend starting with - that would be The Fifth Head of Cerberus - but it is his magnum opus so I feel like I'd be remiss if I didn't feature it prominently. It's dense, allusive, challenging, and sometimes difficult at a glance to tell if you are reading fantasy or science fiction. You will probably be able to tell if it is the kind of book that will grab you within a paragraph, depending on how you take to the prose. The prose stylistically mirrors the storytelling, so if you dislike the former you probably won't like its approach to the latter.


The Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed are Ursula K. Le Guin's two best science fictions, at least that I've read. I am also partial to The Word for World is Forest, but I think it is a step below these.


And I can't possibly forget the Earthsea books. I have only read the first three (which were fantastic), but I have it on good authority that the others are also good. It also has that effortless sense of timelessness, of being something out of myth or legend, that some of my other favorites have.

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Jeff VanderMeer's best book. You may have some lunatics who try to tell you that you should read The Southern Reach trilogy first, but you shouldn't listen to Vanessa; read his best first. I can't tell from what you've listed if you have any interesting in weird fiction or new weird fiction, but if you aren't sure this is probably the best place to start. It isn't a novel so much as it is a fictional world constructed through short stories, fictional histories and bibliographies and natural history, with a healthy dash of postmodernism and Lovecraftian (but that's to be expected) horror thrown in.

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Jesuits ... IN SPACE! It sounds ridiculous (and the premise kind of is), but if you accept the premise that Jesuits managed to get a spaceship to travel to a distant planet and meet the natives and you can just go along for the ride it's definitely worth it.


If you looked at The Once and Future King and thought, "Okay, maybe I'd like to try Arthurian fiction but I'd rather read it as historical fiction set in fifth-century Britain and not some weirdly anachronistic medieval pastiche," this is what you were looking for. The first three books are the Merlin trilogy; I haven't actually finished the rest of the series out myself so I can't say how it ends. But the first three are wonderful.

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I could probably think of more but it really is getting late and this is probably enough.
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Vyrance

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If you liked the Commonwealth books, read the Night's Dawn series by the same author, Peter F. Hamilton. Excellent series.
 

Matty77

Member
Since you said you like Neuromancer a lot I would suggest reading Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive. They are not quite as good but it is a trilogy. Gibson's first book of short stories is also a Cyberpunk essential.
 

Ventara

Member
I'm currently reading The Great Book of Amber (a collection of the 10 volumes), a fantasy novel, and it's been pretty good so far. I'm halfway through volume 2 and I'd definitely recommend it at this point.
 

Mumei

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I'm currently reading The Great Book of Amber (a collection of the 10 volumes), a fantasy novel, and it's been pretty good so far. I'm halfway through volume 2 and I'd definitely recommend it at this point.

Personally I thought 1 - 5 were much better than 6 - 10, but I'll be interested in hearing what you think when you finish. You should post in the What are you reading? thread when you do!
 

digdug2k

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The Magicians trilogy by Lev Grossman (kind of like Harry Potter meets The Catcher in the Rye--beautiful and funny writing, phenomenal worldbuilding), some of my favorite books ever.
I just finished these a week or two ago too (after really liking the SciFi show). I'm not much of a reader, but they were really good stuff.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
I need recommendations as well, but for Audiobook in this case.

I've listened to:

ASOIAF
Harry Potter
Ready Player One
Off To Be The Wizard
Daemon & Freedom
Enders Game

I'm looking for a page turner with a good narrator.

ASOIAF is great, but it's a slog. Harry Potter was fantastically narrated. Whil Wheaton did an awesome job with RPO. Whoever narrated OTBTW was phenomenal and brought a lot of life to the characters. Daemon was a bit dry, but it was absolutely a page turner with an extremely exciting premise. And then Enders a game...I couldn't even finish it. The book is a chore, and the narrator is horrendous.
 

Inkwell

Banned
I always love and hate these threads because I end up adding a bunch to my "to read" list. I never read much of anything until adulthood so I feel like I'm playing catch-up with an exponentially growing list.

I'm not sure how well the chart on this page is regarded, but I've used it quite heavily. There's a fun little interactive version here. I'm not well read in terms of fantasy, but I do love Sci-Fi. Here's a few suggestions:

Foundation Trilogy

Brave New World

Childhood's End

I actually didn't care too much for Snow Crash either, but I enjoyed both Cryptonomicon and Anathem by Stephenson. Anathem can be a little challenging (annoying?) to get through due to the nature of the book. He takes things a little too far, but it's a really well done interesting concept for the plot.
 
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