Lord of the Rings trilogy - Great movies? Or greatest movies?

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Timbuktu said:
I do wonder how much The Hobbit movies would make the trilogy look a bit dated. I would expect Weta to progress after Avatar and all that, who know maybe they might even be in 3d

Yeah, I wonder if they'll ever go back and redo some of the special effects. I'm sure they still have the raw copies of footage stored somewhere. Some people might not like it and reference what George Lucas did with the original Star Wars trilogy, but I think a crucial difference here is that they'd be going from CGI to CGI, rather than in camera effects to CGI.

Initially when I watched the LOTR movies I couldn't stand them because they were just too long, but with the extended editions I watched them like they were six separate movies, and found them to be much more bearable.
 
There are absolutely too many great moments in the trilogy to list them all. Each film has some amazing scenes that set themselves apart from other movies. I consider them all one long fantastic, amazing, breathtaking, best freakin movie ever. They were intended to be like that unlike the Matrix or Pirates movies which both claimed were supposed to be trilogies from the get go. Yea right...

LOTR is a masterpiece and I'm not sure when we'll see a movie with that big of a scope that actually delivers again.

To answer your question. LOTR = GOAT movies!
 
TheExodu5 said:
LOTRO is a friggin' masterpiece when it comes to the environments (and music).

Just started playing this game last week and have been completely addicted (and I'm not even out of the starting areas, just really enjoying the gameplay in general.)

Damn I was going to try and take a break from it for one day so I'm not completely lost to it, but you guys talking about it just got me excited again.



As for my thoughts on the movies: Last summer, being unemployed I spend a good week doing nothing but reading all 3 novels in a row topping it off with a movie marathon of the extending editions in one sitting. It absolutely ruined the movies for me, which sucks because I used to absolutely adore them. They ruined so many good characters and completely changed some for no reason.
 
typhonsentra said:
I've never understood why this series is held in such high regard but the Star Wars prequels are so hated. You can argue disappointment from unrealistic expectations or Jar Jar but it's not like he was even that prominent after the first movie, and is Lucas's directing really any worse than Jackson's? I liked certain aspects of the movie but I'd probably never give it another watch.

Did....did he just compare Jackson's directing abilities to Lucas?
 
Anasui Kishibe said:
the scene in which Gandalf grabs his sword mid-air and starts slapping Balrog's ass while falling for miles had me excited. That's my fav scene in the movies
One of the best opening scenes to a movie ever.
 
Small bump, but whatever. I just rewatched the trilogy, the extended edition. These movies can not be watched enough times. They are seriously fucking amazing. My favorite scene, emotionally, is in Return of the King. When all the hobbits bow to Aragorn, he replies, " You bow to no one. " Then Aragorn, and all the men and elves, bow to the four hobbits. Seriously got to me. I love this trilogy.

Is there any hope the extended edition will be coming to some amazing blu-ray ultimate edition anytime soon? I would snatch that in a hearbeat.
 
K2Valor said:
Small bump, but whatever. I just rewatched the trilogy, the extended edition. These movies can not be watched enough times. They are seriously fucking amazing. My favorite scene, emotionally, is in Return of the King. When all the hobbits bow to Aragorn, he replies, " You bow to no one. " Then Aragorn, and all the men and elves, bow to the four hobbits. Seriously got to me. I love this trilogy.

I got something in my eyes when I saw that scene, so they became all watery *cough*

That said the LotR trilogy is arguably the best trilogy ever, and definitely my three favorite movies. I'm a bit wary of the movie adaption of The Hobbit, though. Sure, del Toro is great at making visually impressive movies, but still.. Pan's Labyrinth bored me somewhat (despite the awesome visual design and effects), and Hellboy 2 was a dud IMO, so I'm still not sure what to think of this. But Jackson's producing it, so I guess it'll be just fine in the end.
 
Just wanted to add to the love-fest--I love the damn movies, one of the greatest trilogies of all time.

That reminds me that I've never watched the extended editions. I should drop by a video store and rent all three for a marathon.
 
Dresden said:
Just wanted to add to the love-fest--I love the damn movies, one of the greatest trilogies of all time.

That reminds me that I've never watched the extended editions. I should drop by a video store and rent all three for a marathon.
Do it. Extended Edition for RotK is by far worth it. It's fucking amazing.
 
Botolf said:
One of the best opening scenes to a movie ever.

There is a shot in that sequence where the camera cuts wide to reveal the massive cavern they're falling into and the music changes, that scene makes my hair stand up every time I see it.
 
A week ago or so I decided to rewatch the Extended Editions over two days, and they still deliver so much.

At times it does drag a wee bit, but overall the package is so beautiful. The thing I love about each film is how much emotion is conveyed by so many of the actors and various scenes.

I love pretty much every actor/actress cast, but Ian McKellen takes the cake in my opinion. He is, in every sense of the word, the perfect Gandalf. He delivered an utterly flawless performance.

I cannot wait for the Blu Ray release.
 
EatChildren said:
I cannot wait for the Blu Ray release.
I was just reading a short article with some quotes from P.J. (at Comic-Con)... I think it was already known, but now it's confirmed that the EEs will come out on Blu-ray a year after the theatrical versions. Of course, we don't even really know when the theatrical cuts will be released, so knowing that doesn't help much. :(

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vatstep said:
I was just reading a short article with some quotes from P.J. (at Comic-Con)... I think it was already known, but now it's confirmed that the EEs will come out on Blu-ray a year after the theatrical versions. Of course, we don't even really know when the theatrical cuts will be released, so knowing that doesn't help much. :(

Link

Gahhhh that's so long. Let's hope the wait will be worth it, because I am buying it for sure.
 
Am I alone in feeling the extended cuts of Fellowship and Two Towers both made the films better? It may just be I was so immerssed in the world that they could have added a twenty minute scene of them standing around looking at each other and I would have ate it up. But I genuinely felt, at Least for TTT, that the added scenes of humour and drama made it a more compelling film.
 
Jonm1010 said:
Am I alone in feeling the extended cuts of Fellowship and Two Towers both made the films better? It may just be I was so immerssed in the world that they could have added a twenty minute scene of them standing around looking at each other and I would have ate it up. But I genuinely felt, at Least for TTT, that the added scenes of humour and drama made it a more compelling film.

It definitely made TTT better. In the theatrical cut, the first half hour or so is very choppy as they jump around a lot trying to reconnect with all the characters. In the EE, a lot of those scenes are extended and it flows a lot better. The Boromir flashback scene they added in to TTT is also probably the best EE scene out of all the films.

The Fellowship EE is also great, but I feel both versions are pretty much perfect. The EE doesn't help FotR as much as it does TTT in that respect.
 
vatstep said:
I was just reading a short article with some quotes from P.J. (at Comic-Con)... I think it was already known, but now it's confirmed that the EEs will come out on Blu-ray a year after the theatrical versions. Of course, we don't even really know when the theatrical cuts will be released, so knowing that doesn't help much. :(

Link

I'm pretty sure Fellowship of the Ring is at least due for the end of this year, but it could slip into next. I'd also heard that the EEs would be launched alongside with The Hobbit's first film, set for 2011.

I really hope, if this year is indeed the theatrical cuts for LotR, that it's all three and not just Fellowship.
 
They were pretty good. Well made, can't argue with much of it being entertaining. I just didn't get into them like I got into Star Wars. And I didn't think RotK deserved many of the awards it got.

But greatest movies? No. Great movies? Yes.
 
I think the first one was excellent (except maybe for that last fight against the hurukais or whatever they are called, it felt a bit indy-movie-ish), the second movie was good too, but the third one was complete shit, especially the ghost part.
 
Complete shit.. ahh dear.

In April I will be going to the Two Towers concert at the Royal Albert hall. They show the movie and all the music they play will be live, Howard Shore will be present. I feel so much regret for missing the FOTR one.

I watched the appendices as well. Seriously, the best making of extras on DVD ever I think.

Cannot fucking wait for the Hobbit. Practically the entire crew from the Trilogy are back for this. So awesome.
 
I love these movies so very much. I liked the first one the best, followed by the second, then the third.
But in all honesty, I'd rather treat them as one film since they're all just superb quality wise.
I've yet to see the extended editions though which I've heard good things about. I've been waiting on the extended Blurays for so long but it looks like they're not coming for a while :(
 
I just recall the palpable excitement when it rolled around to the next instalment coming out. There was this sense of familiarity returning to the theatre to see the next film, just after the previous version was released on DVD.

Being in New Zealand, there was always this sense of pride going around.

I also thought it was particularly clever that each film, though a part of a larger story, worked fairly well as a separate film - it didn't tell a separate story, but there was an intro that setup the rest of the film, but somehow summarised old ground without being redundant. For example, I always wondered how they would open the Two Towers - one might have presumed that they would just have a 'previously, on LotR', but no, opens with the fight with the Balrog. Reminds you instantly the major plot point of the previous film, but works as its own intro. Brilliant.
 
GREATEST MOVIES!! <3 LotR
RotK>>>>tTT>FotR
Rotk is like, the movie that won more oscars along with Titanic isn't it?
 
I love love love these movies, the only movies I will triple dip for, and if I'm stupid, quadruple dip.

EXCEPT the end of the final big battle. It was a bit bleh considering how epic everything was. all of a sudden aragorn arrives with ghosts who just wash over the land like soap. one of my biggest anticlimaxes ever.

I'm dying to rewatch them again for the first time since the DVD release of return of the king but will behave and wait for the blurays.
 
I adore these movies, and I love that they're all epic in length and story. Can't wait for the Blu-ray version of the trilogy to come out. Marathon LOTR session at mine :D
 
kaizoku said:
EXCEPT the end of the final big battle. It was a bit bleh considering how epic everything was. all of a sudden aragorn arrives with ghosts who just wash over the land like soap. one of my biggest anticlimaxes ever.

this was jackson's biggest directorial blunder in the trilogy ... in the book you really had a sense the bad guys were really about to win the battle, and aragorn came to save the day at the 11th hour.

in the movie it seemed like an afterthought.
 
It's probably been mentioned already but this trilogy has one of the best movie soundtracks ever. I'm not sure how Howard Shore managed to achieve such a high degree of excellence and more impressive, consistence.
 
I just watched all three extended editions again last week for the first time in several years, and I had forgot how truly astonishing they are. They evoked such emotion in me, which films can rarely do. It really sucks you into the world and makes the characters come alive. It's also the only instance ever where I enjoy the movies more than the books.

Can't wait for The Hobbit movie too :D
 
For me, rewatching, I rank them as FotR -> TTT -> RotK. I love all three, but Fellowship stands as my favourite and so on.

I think what knocks back RotK a bit is how the story breaks up. As a work of literature its much easier to manage multiple narratives from multiple characters, since it's read at the readers pace and divided by chapters. With film, though, it's a totally linear, controlled experience and narrative can suffer a bit.

Fellowship works best because it's essentially an A-to-B film. There's no divide between characters, and they journey together. All elements of the plot and flow can be told from mostly a single perspective of the Fellowship itself, and its not until the end that it breaks up.

Towers works fine since the separation of characters is minimal. Frodo, Sam, and Gollum star in one narrative, while Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli star in another, with that narrative also including Théoden, Eowyn, and Éomer, as well as Gandalf the White.

The Merry, Pippin, and Treebeard narrative is kept relatively brief, mostly relying on dialogue and the final fight, and thus doesn't feel unnecessary.

Return of the King, though, really separates a lot of the characters, and you end up with a crazy amount of narrative. Frodo, Sam and Gollum are still doing their thing, while you must also follow Aaragon, Legolas, and Gimli, then Merry and Eowyn, also Pippin and Gandalf, Faramir and Denethor, and then Arwen and Elrond.

As a novel it works, but as a film you've got a ton of characters with their own plots, small and large, to follow while constantly switching between one and the other.

It still works and makes for a fantastic film, but it changes the pace quite dramatically and I can see why some people may have felt it dragged on, as it never really settles in one particular moment until the final battles.
 
I'll never understand the hate RotK gets. It really is a masterful movie besides the green wash of ghosts. Its far superior to Towers imo.

It also has one of my favourite shots ever, the tracking shot behind Gandalf on the horse as he repels the Narsguls away from Faramir's riders.
 
Great, with caveats. I don't like what the did with half the characters, despise the way the Elves are handled (slo-mo, saturated white light and soft-focus....ug) and some of the key relationships were poorly handled. And Jackson went for a few too many dramatic flourishes (Aaragon's tendancy to get knocked out repeatedly in Towers, Dethanor's epic sprint to the edge of Minas Tirith in King; that was what, 100+ yards while on fire?).

I think they are serious issues. And in most movies issues of that scale would sink them overall in my view. But there's just so much else to these movies, from the many characters and sequences they nailed, to the stunning art, the strong ensemble performances, the accomplishment that was Gollum (I never though they'd pull off the complexity of his character), the continually rousing music and the greatest cavalry charge ever put to film (in King). The extended versions of all three are the superior versions.

In total, they're a stunning work and I have nothing but awe and respect for the talent and passion that went into them. But zoom down a level and I have a host of major issues with the creative direction that Jackson took many characters, moments, relationships in.
 
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