The producers from Season 1 told the audience not to expect every question answered. It was never their intention to answer every scientific or theological question the show posed. That would be impossible. They focused on the characters, like they always had. It was LOST through and through, and if you expected more than you are only fooling yourself.Meier said:
LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)
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:lol haha right you could put this ending with any tv show in history. Hey we all lived for five season full of wacky hijinks in apartment 201 in santa monica. we all moved on with our lives but we die and meet here again and get a connection and Jack, Chrissy,Janet,Larry, the ropers, and mr.furley all move on together to whatever is next.But we will never explain why Chrissy never came back.Terri you stay outside.Jackson said:
Finally chiming in here, but I thought the finale' was amazing. I honestly thought I was going to be very upset at how things ended on the island. I didn't know how they were actually going to resolve everything. I will definitely be buying the Blu-ray for this season day one. Especially since some of the answers everyone is looking for are supposed to be on there. My favorite parts of the finale':
- Mine actually started during the recap before the show. I remembered how crazy it was when Charlie died, as well as when Sawyer was trying to hold onto Juliette and how he said he wouldn't let her go. Combine that with the part at the vending machine in the hospital, yeah.. That was sad.
- Jack going down the cliff after MiB.. That whole scene was awesome.
- The scene when Jack fixed Locke in the flash sideways.. Powerful scene when Locke was talking to him.
- The scene with Ben and Hugo on the island when Ben became his #2.
- Scene in flash sideways where Ben and Locke made amends.. Honestly one of the best moments in the show for me.
- And I really thought that the last few seconds, Vincent coming out of the forest and Jack dying looking up in the bamboo forest at the plane flying overhead... Just perfect for me.
- Mine actually started during the recap before the show. I remembered how crazy it was when Charlie died, as well as when Sawyer was trying to hold onto Juliette and how he said he wouldn't let her go. Combine that with the part at the vending machine in the hospital, yeah.. That was sad.
- Jack going down the cliff after MiB.. That whole scene was awesome.
- The scene when Jack fixed Locke in the flash sideways.. Powerful scene when Locke was talking to him.
- The scene with Ben and Hugo on the island when Ben became his #2.
- Scene in flash sideways where Ben and Locke made amends.. Honestly one of the best moments in the show for me.
- And I really thought that the last few seconds, Vincent coming out of the forest and Jack dying looking up in the bamboo forest at the plane flying overhead... Just perfect for me.
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RubxQub said:
Oh please, lets not get an ego trip here. It seems you are just willing to apologize more for a series you like than others.
I cant believe it but im so perfectly content with lost, never thought it could do that to me but i could leave it now and consider it one of the best shows ive ever seen, hands down, no if's or but's about it. Best.Finale.Ever.
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Sorry but what you say sounds hugely revisionist. ABC marketed this season saying it would reveal all answers, so how could that show have nothing to do about mystery and be all about characters?VistraNorrez said:
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Well.... I have to say that I am feeling pretty satisfied with the way everything turned out. I really feel like certain peoples obsession with getting answers was killing all of the fun. I am a Heroes fan so if you want to see some bad character development with a sci-fi slant look no further. All in all it was a very good finale.
criesofthepast
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Was awaken just now by a car passing my house that sounded exactly like the smoke monster. I shit my bed.
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bill0527 said:
You are not alone...I like that theory/ending better than the nonsensical collective bubble universe where Locke cares little for Helen in the end that everyone else seems to believe.
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/wat...26_losts_mr_eko_turned_down_finale_guest.html
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What a fucking ass.
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What a fucking ass.
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Well, the ending has been discussed from every possible angle, positive and negative. So I'll say this....
I've watched this series from day 1. While I came for the intrigue of the island and its mysteries, I stayed for the characters in which I bonded with. I knew when it ended last night that some would love it, some would hate it. I'm not religious in the least bit, but I absolutely loved it.
Are there a ton of loose strings? Absolutely. But Im not bothered by that. If some questions got answered, great. If not, thats fine too, as long as what I got was what I really needed from the finale.... closer for all the characters that I have followed and been attached to for 6 years. I thought that was achieved. To think that a show that for 6 seasons gave you 1 answer for every 5 questions, that was completely about the mystery would be handing out definite answers for everything would be foolish. For me, this episode was the best of the series, and while I completely can see why those who are disappointed in the lack of answers to some of the bigger questions went unanswered, I thought the episode was masterful (as IGN put it) and was a perfect way to close the book on an incredible journey.
I've watched this series from day 1. While I came for the intrigue of the island and its mysteries, I stayed for the characters in which I bonded with. I knew when it ended last night that some would love it, some would hate it. I'm not religious in the least bit, but I absolutely loved it.
Are there a ton of loose strings? Absolutely. But Im not bothered by that. If some questions got answered, great. If not, thats fine too, as long as what I got was what I really needed from the finale.... closer for all the characters that I have followed and been attached to for 6 years. I thought that was achieved. To think that a show that for 6 seasons gave you 1 answer for every 5 questions, that was completely about the mystery would be handing out definite answers for everything would be foolish. For me, this episode was the best of the series, and while I completely can see why those who are disappointed in the lack of answers to some of the bigger questions went unanswered, I thought the episode was masterful (as IGN put it) and was a perfect way to close the book on an incredible journey.
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Oh I loved the finale, I think it's perfect as an ending. But I think it's absurd to now say that this show was only character driven when it wasn't. You simply can't hide the plot holes that way.silentspork said:
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RichardAM said:
God damnit AAA!
Coulda, woulda, shoulda!
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Interfectum said:
Or you could not apologize for the show and just interpret what was actually shown. It's possible to be satisfied that way as well.
I think it's fine for people to have their own opinions and reactions, but to claim that the show needs to be apologized for is way off base. There are answers and resolution right there in the text of the series. It's fine to not be satisfied with them, but they were dutifully laid out. There was, naturally, stuff they didn't answer for any multitude of reasons, but as far as the point of the show, of the characters' arcs, of the overarching plot of six seasons; everything was resolved.
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bill0527 said:
Thats sad to read.
A memorable character, would have been great to see him in the finale and more seasons.
NinjaCodah said:
Blame ABC's marketing team then.
They did answer a lot, though. Whether they answered it to an extent you are satisfied with is one thing, but you can't say that you don't have a better understanding of the island and everything on it than you did before this season started.
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CrankyJay said:
How was a coherent storyline not resolved? I hear a lot of this going around and yet not one person has refuted my repeated summation and explanation of it.
Its not like they answered nothing, they've actually answered quite a bit throughout the series. They didn't answer all the stuff I expected them to answer in the last season, but I'm honestly not to beat up about it, I don't know if that makes me an apologist but I'm very satisfied with the ending to this show.
I don't necessarily agree that it was solely a character drama, though. The characters were the main point, yes, but the writers wanted us to care about these mysteries. Hopefully the dvd extras they were talking about and the encyclopedia clear some more stuff up.
I don't necessarily agree that it was solely a character drama, though. The characters were the main point, yes, but the writers wanted us to care about these mysteries. Hopefully the dvd extras they were talking about and the encyclopedia clear some more stuff up.
NinjaCodah
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This season was marketed saying it would finally answer questions. That's the shtick of the show, what kept most people watching.pxleyes said:
ostrichKing
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Why was Helen not with Locke in the end?
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If that's what you want to call it, go for it.Interfectum said:
All I know is that I'm on cloud 9 after last night and you're in the depths of hell. Surely we can agree I'm happier than you are, right?
...and who wouldn't want to be happy?
This show is over. It is what it is. You can sit there and seethe about how much it didn't make you happy, or you can just move on. I've already gone through my "this show isn't going to be about answers" disappointment and moved on well before last night.
I don't care that you're disappointed (I've already said I sympathize with what you and others are experiencing...I get it and get why), I care that you're saying my interpretation of the show is invalid because it doesn't jive with yours.
It's entirely possible for this show to be shitty to some and wonderful to others. I acknowledge both and just so happen to be on the wonderful side.
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I feel the same way. Although to be fair, I loved the first 5 seasons. However, Season 6 just felt rushed and underdeveloped.sprsk said:
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BenjaminBirdie said:
Jut ignore the troll, you'll never convince them otherwise.
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RubxQub said:
Well put.
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ostrichKing said:
Maybe she moved on already? Maybe Locke needed to move on with those people, but when they get where they are going, he will be with Helen again.
Like I said earlier, I think too much is being made of who was and who wasn't in the room. It clearly wasn't an exact science...based more on some sort of collective feeling.
Hurley and Bens conversation, to me, implied that they are still going to be chums, Ben simply needs more time. He also said that Ana-Lucia "isn't ready", implying that she will move on in her own time. Mrs. Hawking knows that Faraday is going to move on at some point as well.
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How are any of those things important at all?BobFromPikeCreek said:
Security system - Rousseau was a nutter that was wrong. Mystery solved Scooby Doo.
Random killings - Who says they were random? You? Sounds to me like its just unexplained backstory. Do we really need a flashback to show MiB raging that Lapidus isnt on the plane and goes into a frenzy killing the Heroes guy? No we dont.
Mechanical sounds with Black Smoke - We dont know what becomes of the Island in the end. We know that Hurley and Ben protect it for sometime before they eventually die. How long is their reign? 5 years? 5000? Knowing what we know about the magic/EM and how it effects space/time heres a famous quote that i think sums it up: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
This is just my opinion but these things are not important enough to be answered because they have zero bearing on the story being told. Maybe when a show comes out during Hurleys time with the Island this will become pressing enough to be answered.
The Lost finale should be a viewing comprehension test for all TV critics. If you don't get that everything outside of the flash sideways scenes actually happened to these people -- before they died -- you're blacklisted, or (worse) condemned to watch and write only about NBC shows.
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The ABC's marketing team and the people telling the story the way they want to are not the same people. Besides, they answered plenty of questions and left other answers implied with only a modicum of thought by the viewer.NinjaCodah said:
If you want something that is only about the mysteries I would suggest sticking with playing something as vapid as Myst.
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The mystery was there to propel the characters, the characters were not there to propel the mysteries. The show would've failed very fast if the characterization was half-assed. And I do think the mysteries were half-assed at times, but that didn't ever damper my enthusiasm.
And yet they still serviced the mysteries. They answered lots of questions, and they mostly made sense.
I just find it bizarre that we reach the end of character arcs, plenty of us were crying and just feeling an incredible amount of emotions, yet the hurley bird or the outrigger are bothering people.
It just seems like priorities are out of wack when the concern is for peripheral information. Maybe that's a failure of no emotional attachment to the characters. I can understand that. I think a case could be made for not liking the characters. No one likes everyone. So the only thing one can look at is the mystery. And there is no way a mystery can satisfy everyone. We all have too different of ideas for success across the board. And so if you don't like the characters and don't like the mystery, then yes the show will fail.
But I think it's so valid when the emotion works for a viewer. I think emotion trumps just about anything else. It's what every single human can understand at an instinctual level. It doesn't need an answer. It just hits you.
And yet they still serviced the mysteries. They answered lots of questions, and they mostly made sense.
I just find it bizarre that we reach the end of character arcs, plenty of us were crying and just feeling an incredible amount of emotions, yet the hurley bird or the outrigger are bothering people.
It just seems like priorities are out of wack when the concern is for peripheral information. Maybe that's a failure of no emotional attachment to the characters. I can understand that. I think a case could be made for not liking the characters. No one likes everyone. So the only thing one can look at is the mystery. And there is no way a mystery can satisfy everyone. We all have too different of ideas for success across the board. And so if you don't like the characters and don't like the mystery, then yes the show will fail.
But I think it's so valid when the emotion works for a viewer. I think emotion trumps just about anything else. It's what every single human can understand at an instinctual level. It doesn't need an answer. It just hits you.
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