LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)

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btw, the light piano note as the Lost logo hit at the end. Nice touch. The usual end would have been a bit wierd :lol
 
Man that fight. God bless you Bender. Really glad that they at least had a really well done fight sequence. The gray colors with the cliffs, rain, and sky, as well as Giacchino's final boss music and crane shots was just spectacular.
 
Dead said:
btw, the light piano note as the Lost logo hit at the end. Nice touch. The usual end would have been a bit wierd :lol

Yeah, I loved that. Just as he closed his eyes....TING.
 
jett said:
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He sure is enjoying that golden shower.

jett
Mr. Negativity

I cant unsee that now, I hate you
 
Wait, the ending scene with the wreckage was added by ABC and not the producers of Lost? Holy shit wtf.

Well that makes sense, because showing the wreck at that point makes no sense.
 
StuBurns said:
What, I've missed something, please repost, sorry.

Those final images of Sunday night's series finale—of the plane wreckage on the island with no survivors—were not the producers' doing.

The show's ABC rep just told me:

"The images shown during the end credits of the Lost finale, which included shots of Oceanic 815 on a deserted beach, were not part of the episode but were a visual aid to allow the viewer to decompress before heading into the news." The statement was first acquired by the Los Angeles Times.

The images were added by the network, not Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, to soften the transition to the 11:00 news.

Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/wat...of_they_did_not_all_die_in.html#ixzz0oztMCoFj

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/wat..._lost_more_proof_they_did_not_all_die_in.html
 
Ill be mad if they replace those credits with the usual ones with the usual music on the DVD. I thought the wreckage credits were perfect.
 
Dead said:
Ill be mad if they replace those credits with the usual ones with the usual music on the DVD. I thought the wreckage credits were perfect.

Same, I felt like it represented their brief mark on the island. Kinda like the statue.
 
Dead said:
Ill be mad if they replace those credits with the usual ones with the usual music on the DVD. I thought the wreckage credits were perfect.

Yeah, I actually liked those stills. But I can see where the confusion might come from :lol .
 
cnizzle06 said:
Same, I felt like it represented their brief mark on the island. Kinda like the statue.

I love the implications of that. That Flight 815, the Swan implosion, Eko's church, etc, are all remnants of their time there, much as the Dharma stations/barracks, the Temple, Statue, etc are all icons of other people and civilizations that have come and gone over the years.
 
cnizzle06 said:
Same, I felt like it represented their brief mark on the island. Kinda like the statue.
I thought the whole thing was quite poetic. A darkened room, my sister and I sobbing uncontrollably to the sound of crashing waves.
 
Solo said:
Its depressingly funny that the interpretation that the media is running with (they all died in S1) would ruin the series :lol :lol :lol

:(

Like I said: ABC has made a statement saying that they added the photos in the end credits themselves after the fact and that it has nothing to do with the plot. From what I've seen, that one moment is what confused most people, so.

Now all that has to happen is every single person who saw the finale has to also see that clarification.

Good luck with that, ABC. And brilliant, by the way. :lol

Link: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sho...ut-the-series-finales-plane-crash-images.html

edit: Oh, late now. :lol I posted about it a couple hours ago and hadn't seen it mentioned in the thread (which was weird) and didn't see any responsible immediately after. Unless I missed a discussion much earlier in the day and the LA Times thing wasn't the first?
 
Aesius said:
I love the implications of that. That Flight 815, the Swan implosion, Eko's church, etc, are all remnants of their time there, much as the Dharma stations/barracks, the Temple, Statue, etc are all icons of other people and civilizations that have come and gone over the years.
That's fine, however the plane is not there at the end of the show. If they'd have shown the little huts they built, R&Bs cabin etc, that'd imply what I think you're saying. The plane crash seems to imply something different.

I do like the credits, I think it's kind of cool, however, the idea of essentially adding something to the end of a series such as this without the consent of the showrunners is really horrible.
 
sevenchaos said:
I thought the whole thing was quite poetic. A darkened room, my sister and I sobbing uncontrollably to the sound of crashing waves.
Yeah, the crashing waves were perfect
 
gdt5016 said:
Yeah, I actually liked those stills. But I can see where the confusion might come from :lol .

I don't understand this apparent confusion at all. I mean, really? Did people hoenstly think they would give us an ending like that, just to say in the credits "lol jk everyone died in the crash GG"?
 
stupei said:
Like I said: ABC has made a statement saying that they added the photos in the end credits themselves after the fact and that it has nothing to do with the plot. From what I've seen, that one moment is what confused most people, so.

Now all that has to happen is every single person who saw the finale has to also see that clarification.

Good luck with that, ABC. And brilliant, by the way. :lol

Link: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sho...ut-the-series-finales-plane-crash-images.html

I know I'm gonna catch flak, but I would've preferred if the reveal was that they all died when they crashed. I feel like this season was too independent from the others, almost like a separate show, but that revelation would've made it feel more interwoven.
 
cnizzle06 said:
I know I'm gonna catch flak, but I would've preferred if the reveal was that they all died when they crashed. I feel like this season was too independent from the others, almost like a separate show, but that revelation would've made it feel more interwoven.

I feel like when you rewatch it you'll feel differently. At least, hopefully? To me this season was the perfect culmination, at least after the reveal in the end. The idea that they have this second chance almost to see what life would have been like without the island's impact, but then given the choice they are all so much happier remembering everything, even all their pain. That's so great. That they think everything in the previous five seasons was so important and so necessary that they just cry tears of joy, just from remembering it. It's less separate, I feel, and more an elevation or culmination. It's what everything else was building to.
 
Vanille said:
I don't understand this apparent confusion at all. I mean, really? Did people hoenstly think they would give us an ending like that, just to say in the credits "lol jk everyone died in the crash GG"?
I don't think fans would be confused at all, however, a casual viewer who hasn't been watching all the time, hears everyone is dead, don't know what the 'flashsideways' are, sees everyone apparently going to heaven after leaving purgatory (the rumor since the first episode of how the show would end) see's the crashed plane, this time with no sign of survivors. I could see why this would add confusion.

In truth, I did not see the credits when I watched the episode. I saw them the day after when I read someone mention it on GAF. I like the credits, and I'm very sure it wouldn't have confused me at all, however, I can see why it would, and if nothing else, it's deeply immoral of ABC to do this.
 
cnizzle06 said:
I know I'm gonna catch flak, but I would've preferred if the reveal was that they all died when they crashed. I feel like this season was too independent from the others, almost like a separate show, but that revelation would've made it feel more interwoven.

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StuBurns said:
That's fine, however the plane is not there at the end of the show. If they'd have shown the little huts they built, R&Bs cabin etc, that'd imply what I think you're saying. The plane crash seems to imply something different.

I do like the credits, I think it's kind of cool, however, the idea of essentially adding something to the end of a series such as this without the consent of the showrunners is really horrible.

Parts of the plane are still there. They burned the middle section of the fuselage, but there are remnants of the plane all over the island.

The wreckage during the credits was added by ABC for to be a buffer between the show and the news and may have nothing to do with Darlton's vision of the finale, but it made me realize that the survivors left their own mark on the island in the same manner as the Black Rock and the builders of the Statue. Of course, not everyone will interpret it that way, but I like it.
 
stupei said:
I feel like when you rewatch it you'll feel differently. At least, hopefully? To me this season was the perfect culmination, at least after the reveal in the end. The idea that they have this second chance almost to see what life would have been like without the island's impact, but then given the choice they are all so much happier remembering everything, even all their pain. That's so great. That they think everything in the previous five seasons was so important and so necessary that they just cry tears of joy, just from remembering it. It's less separate, I feel, and more an elevation or culmination. It's what everything else was building to.

Believe me, I've watched the hell out of this show, including the finale (DL from my PS3). The parallels were nostalgic, and the mirror-imaging worked well, but I still think the final twist should've been more relative to the entire show as a whole. When people I know who have stopped watching midway through ask me how it ended, I'm like, "they were dead, but not really, er...you'd have to watch the final season to get it." It doesn't sit right with me. The series ender to a show should be a culmination of all the seasons before it, and I just felt it wasnt sufficient...I dont know.
 
Aesius said:
Parts of the plane are still there. They burned the middle section of the fuselage, but there are remnants of the plane all over the island.

The wreckage during the credits was added by ABC for to be a buffer between the show and the news and may have nothing to do with Darlton's vision of the finale, but it made me realize that the survivors left their own mark on the island in the same manner as the Black Rock and the builders of the Statue. Of course, not everyone will interpret it that way, but I like it.
My memory of it is the plane was dragged away by the sea, that's the excuse the show used for not using the plane parts again. I don't believe they appear after the episode where they drag all the suitcases from the sea in season one. With the exceptions of the parts used to build little huts.
 
Kurtofan said:
MIB and Jacob were here before the Egyptians.


Doubtful. MIB and Jacob came to the island in 23 AD, long after Egyptians were making monuments like the statue.

Of course its possible that the island went back in time after Jacob and MiB became what they were.
 
StuBurns said:
I don't know what we're talking about then.
I thought you meant the credits made sense because in the X timeline the crashed plane with no survivors. Sorry.

No big deal, I was just responding to a post a couple above mine where he said he had to explain that the survivors were "dead" (if I understand him right), I was just trying to clarify that the x timeline was an epilogue of sorts, taking place in the Lost afterlife and that the survivors did not die in the original crash.
 
Fatghost said:
Doubtful. MIB and Jacob came to the island in 23 AD, long after Egyptians were making monuments like the statue.

Of course its possible that the island went back in time after Jacob and MiB became what they were.
This is something I've been wondering about since the finale. Before that, I presumed the Epytians were after, there is no sign of them in ATS. On the 'door' to the summoning room in Ben's house shows an image of Smokey, implying it was after MiB became Smokey. The donkey wheel, which we know was build after ATS has Egyptian material all over it. However, the plug has Egyptian shit all over it. And I can't understand when the plug production took place.
 
StuBurns said:
This is something I've been wondering about since the finale. Before that, I presumed the Epytians were after, there is no sign of them in ATS. On the 'door' to the summoning room in Ben's house shows an image of Smokey, implying it was after MiB became Smokey. The donkey wheel, which we know was build after ATS has Egyptian material all over it. However, the plug has Egyptian shit all over it. And I can't understand when the plug production took place.

A few pages back, a couple people were talking about how the writing on the plug looked more Sumerian than Egyptian.
 
StuBurns said:
This is something I've been wondering about since the finale. Before that, I presumed the Epytians were after, there is no sign of them in ATS. On the 'door' to the summoning room in Ben's house shows an image of Smokey, implying it was after MiB became Smokey. The donkey wheel, which we know was build after ATS has Egyptian material all over it. However, the plug has Egyptian shit all over it. And I can't understand when the plug production took place.

Uh MiB wasn't the only MiB remember? The MomInBlack?
 
Blader5489 said:
A few pages back, a couple people were talking about how the writing on the plug looked more Sumerian than Egyptian.
That is very cool.

G-Fex said:
Uh MiB wasn't the only MiB remember? The MomInBlack?
I don't believe that at all. He might not have been the first Smokey, but that woman was not one.
 
StuBurns said:
This is something I've been wondering about since the finale. Before that, I presumed the Epytians were after, there is no sign of them in ATS. On the 'door' to the summoning room in Ben's house shows an image of Smokey, implying it was after MiB became Smokey. The donkey wheel, which we know was build after ATS has Egyptian material all over it. However, the plug has Egyptian shit all over it. And I can't understand when the plug production took place.
I really wish they would have touched on the true origins of the island. It sucks we'll never really know what was so damn special about that place.
 
StuBurns said:
This is something I've been wondering about since the finale. Before that, I presumed the Epytians were after, there is no sign of them in ATS. On the 'door' to the summoning room in Ben's house shows an image of Smokey, implying it was after MiB became Smokey. The donkey wheel, which we know was build after ATS has Egyptian material all over it. However, the plug has Egyptian shit all over it. And I can't understand when the plug production took place.
some food for thought

- Though you don't see the Temple, Statue, etc, there is nothing at all that says that they aren't there. Remember ATS takes place in one small area of the Island, pretty much where the Losties crashed...and there were no ruins or anything there

- MIB and Jacob were playing Senet an ancient Egyptian game more than 3000 years older than them

- The Egyptians carved into caves and tunnels all over the Island. Whoever finished the Wheel (MIB himself probably) must have done it in those caves.

The wall that MIB was going to use for the wheel in ATS was already there, so there are most likely a few more caves with such walls with the Light behind them.
 
It's kind of funny to thing of how people back on earth would react to Kate returning.
She was in two plane crashes but survived both, she would probably be a big new story or whatever.
 
Snuggler said:
It's kind of funny to thing of how people back on earth would react to Kate returning.
She was in two plane crashes but survived both, she would probably be a big new story or whatever.

Remember how badly she wanted to get back on the mainland without anyone noticing?

:lol :lol

EPIC FAIL.

(And talk about a parole violation.)

:lol
 
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